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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
ATI's R580 GPU is codenamed 'Rodin' |
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http://www.bytesector.com/data/news_item.asp?newsID=4006
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=3765
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24961&highlight=Rodin
ATI's great thinkers slip R580 codename
posted: 10/26/2005 9:16:38 AM by: Chris
"The codename of ATi's forthcoming successor to its just released
RADEON X1800 XT (R520) - the 90nm R580 is called 'Rodin'.
Named, we think, after the great French sculptor Auguste Rodin
(1840-1917), whose works included 'The Thinker' and the
exquisitely risqué 'The Kiss'.
With memory rumoured to be like Fudo, what kind of a thinker will ATi
R580 be?"
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some of ATI's previous codenames for GPUs:
R520 = 'Fudo' (Radeon X1800)
R420 = 'Loki' (Radeon X800)
ATI/Nintendo:
Revolution GPU = 'Hollywood'
Gamecube GPU = 'Flipper' (by ArtX)
ATI/Microsoft:
Xbox 360 GPU = 'Xenos' |
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First of One
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:40 am Post subject:
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Well, at least it's not as prickly as Microsoft's 'Longhorn'...
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"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
<radeonr420@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1130700921.892245.319150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
some of ATI's previous codenames for GPUs:
R520 = 'Fudo' (Radeon X1800)
R420 = 'Loki' (Radeon X800)
ATI/Nintendo:
Revolution GPU = 'Hollywood'
Gamecube GPU = 'Flipper' (by ArtX)
ATI/Microsoft:
Xbox 360 GPU = 'Xenos' |
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John Lewis
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:23 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:40:31 -0500, "First of One" <daxinfx@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | Well, at least it's not as prickly as Microsoft's 'Longhorn'...
--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
radeonr420@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1130700921.892245.319150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
some of ATI's previous codenames for GPUs:
R520 = 'Fudo' (Radeon X1800)
R420 = 'Loki' (Radeon X800)
ATI/Nintendo:
Revolution GPU = 'Hollywood'
Gamecube GPU = 'Flipper' (by ArtX)
ATI/Microsoft:
Xbox 360 GPU = 'Xenos'
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I wonder what nVidia's G8x code-names will be ?
No matter, "G80" will do just fine for a start, which should be
real soon now..............
Pity that Ati now spends more time thinking up code-names
than actually releasing product on time. Nero fiddling while
Rome burns ?
John Lewis |
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NightSky 421
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:20 am Post subject:
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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:43655457.1161013@news.verizon.net...
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I wonder what nVidia's G8x code-names will be ?
No matter, "G80" will do just fine for a start, which should be
real soon now..............
Pity that Ati now spends more time thinking up code-names
than actually releasing product on time. Nero fiddling while
Rome burns ?
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Yes, since we all recognize that competition in the marketplace is
important - especially when there are only two major players in it. In
designing the R520, I'm sure ATI went through some of the same difficulties
that nVidia did with the NV30, and that things will return to normal after a
year or so. |
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John Lewis
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:20:15 -0700, "NightSky 421"
<nightsky421@yahoo.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:43655457.1161013@news.verizon.net...
I wonder what nVidia's G8x code-names will be ?
No matter, "G80" will do just fine for a start, which should be
real soon now..............
Pity that Ati now spends more time thinking up code-names
than actually releasing product on time. Nero fiddling while
Rome burns ?
Yes, since we all recognize that competition in the marketplace is
important - especially when there are only two major players in it. In
designing the R520, I'm sure ATI went through some of the same difficulties
that nVidia did with the NV30, and that things will return to normal after a
year or so.
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The distraction of the Xbox360 has not helped... and you can bet M$$
will continue to get their pound of flesh. The agreement between ATi
and M$$ was for ATi to provide the design and coordinate the first
manufacturing, then for M$$ to take over the third-party manufacturing
responsibility entirely and pay ATi a per-unit license fee. And the
arrangement betwen nVidia and Sony is similar, except the the PS3 GPU
is being physically designed for manufacture on Sony's silicon line.
Unlike Sony, M$$ does not possess any in-house silicon-design/QC
expertise -- so I expect the on-going relationship between ATi and M$$
with regard to the solving any design-related manufacturing problems
(and executing cost-lowering updates) of the Xenos GPU/memory
to be much closer than that between nVidia and Sony.... much to the
detriment of ATi, like a millstone round the neck in terms of
distraction of design and QC resources from new ATi products.
I fully believe that nVidia is very glad to be rid of the M$$
connection. The icing on the cake was when M$$ finally capitulated
five months ago and licensed the rights from nVidia to emulate the
Xbox hardware on the Xbox360.
John Lewis
- Technology early-birds are flying guinea-pigs. |
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noman
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:51 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:20:15 -0700, "NightSky 421"
<nightsky421@yahoo.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | Yes, since we all recognize that competition in the marketplace is
important - especially when there are only two major players in it. In
designing the R520, I'm sure ATI went through some of the same difficulties
that nVidia did with the NV30, and that things will return to normal after a
year or so.
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The end result however is a lot different. R520 seems like a very
capable GPU. Its programmable memory controller, branching-shader
performance, ability to be overclocked to crazy levels (even for the
...umm.. lower priced X1800XL), ability to use AA with FP blending and
ability to do high quality AF etc are all features that are not only
relevant today but are forward looking too. That's why it's getting
great frame rates in almost all games.
If only I could get an AGP version priced around $200-300, I won't
mind getting it. The lowest X1800XL has gotten to so far is about $370
and it's PCIe.
To get a PCIe version however means an upgrade of motherboard and
processor and possibly RAM as well. I'd try and delay such a
significant upgrade as much as I can with my 9800Pro until hopefully
R600 core or the equivalent nVidia GPU has come out.
AGP on high-end cards did die rather quickly. The PCI->AGP transition
was not like this.
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Mister Hand
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:20 am Post subject:
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radeonr420@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | "The codename of ATi's forthcoming successor to its just released
RADEON X1800 XT (R520) - the 90nm R580 is called 'Rodin'.
Named, we think, after the great French sculptor Auguste Rodin
(1840-1917), whose works included 'The Thinker' and the
exquisitely risqué 'The Kiss'.
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And here I thought they'd named it for that giant bird-thing that
Godzilla fights in all those movies. |
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NightSky 421
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:54 am Post subject:
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"noman" <no_m_an@zzzyahoo.yycom> wrote in message
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The end result however is a lot different. R520 seems like a very
capable GPU. Its programmable memory controller, branching-shader
performance, ability to be overclocked to crazy levels (even for the
..umm.. lower priced X1800XL), ability to use AA with FP blending and
ability to do high quality AF etc are all features that are not only
relevant today but are forward looking too. That's why it's getting
great frame rates in almost all games.
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Quite true.
| Quote: | If only I could get an AGP version priced around $200-300, I won't
mind getting it. The lowest X1800XL has gotten to so far is about $370
and it's PCIe.
To get a PCIe version however means an upgrade of motherboard and
processor and possibly RAM as well. I'd try and delay such a
significant upgrade as much as I can with my 9800Pro until hopefully
R600 core or the equivalent nVidia GPU has come out.
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My gaming rig is over two years old now and also has a 9800 Pro. I'm still
happy with the video card. It's not the beast it once was, but I'm not
terribly hung up on graphics. I just wanted something high-end when I
bought my last gaming computer because I wanted longevity. But given
everything that has changed on the PC in the last couple of years, and the
continued change going into next year, I'm probably just going to build a
whole new system from the ground up next year sometime (maybe I'll carry
over my IDE hard drives). I'm waiting to see about Socket M2 and G80/R580
before deciding on anything, but if I'm still happy with my current box at
that time, I will hang onto the money I've saved for the new computer until
I feel I actually need something new.
As far as PCI-E goes, I want my next video card to be fairly high-end as
well, but I'm willing to go the PCI-E route because even if AGP was still
available, I know my Socket 478 2.8GHz CPU would not see those cards to
their potential.
| Quote: | AGP on high-end cards did die rather quickly. The PCI->AGP transition
was not like this.
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There seems to be a big push to kill off AGP, but I'm sure lower-end AGP
cards will continue to be made into the future as PCI cards were after the
introduction of AGP.
Happy Halloween everyone! |
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J. Clarke
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
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Mister Hand wrote:
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radeonr420@yahoo.com wrote:
"The codename of ATi's forthcoming successor to its just released
RADEON X1800 XT (R520) - the 90nm R580 is called 'Rodin'.
Named, we think, after the great French sculptor Auguste Rodin
(1840-1917), whose works included 'The Thinker' and the
exquisitely risqué 'The Kiss'.
And here I thought they'd named it for that giant bird-thing that
Godzilla fights in all those movies.
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No, that's "Rod_a_n".
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--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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chrisv
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject:
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radeonr420@yahoo.com wrote:
What happened to your concast account, spammer? |
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noman
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:05 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:54:14 -0700, "NightSky 421"
<nightsky421@yahoo.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | My gaming rig is over two years old now and also has a 9800 Pro. I'm still
happy with the video card. It's not the beast it once was, but I'm not
terribly hung up on graphics. I just wanted something high-end when I
bought my last gaming computer because I wanted longevity.
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9800Pro did turn out to be an excellent card. I'd rate it (and
9700Pro) along with Voodoo2 and GF4 Ti4200 in its longevity.
My reason for upgrading is to get playable frame rates at 1600x1200
(1680x1050 to be precise) with most of the graphic features so I can
finally buy the Dell widescreen monitor 2005FPW. The floating point
frame buffer support in the newer GPUs is also a bonus.
| Quote: | [snip] I'm waiting to see about Socket M2 and G80/R580
before deciding on anything, but if I'm still happy with my current box at
that time, I will hang onto the money I've saved for the new computer until
I feel I actually need something new.
As far as PCI-E goes, I want my next video card to be fairly high-end as
well, but I'm willing to go the PCI-E route because even if AGP was still
available, I know my Socket 478 2.8GHz CPU would not see those cards to
their potential.
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That's my plan as well. I just wish there were cheaper 6800GT class
AGP cards that I could pick for $100-120 during thanksgiving or
christmas sales to tide me over till the heavy weights (R600/G80)
arrive. Other parts of my almost 3 year old system (P4 2.4@2.7, 1 gig
RAM) should be able to get even newer games (and dare I say, Oblivion)
going at 1600x900 when paired with a slightly better AGP card.
By the way, there's a rumor floating around that 7800GTX Ultra 512 meg
will come out around 550/1800 clock for core and memory. If it's true,
this'd be a monster and will definitely drive prices of other 7800
cards, 6x00 and X1x00 series GPUs lower. May be I'll get a $120 6800GT
after all :)
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chrisv
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:33 am Post subject:
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noman wrote:
| Quote: | That's my plan as well. I just wish there were cheaper 6800GT class
AGP cards that I could pick for $100-120 during thanksgiving or
christmas sales to tide me over till the heavy weights (R600/G80)
arrive.
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Yeah, I bought a 6600GT a while back, and I'm kind of bummed that I
can't run HL2 and D3 at 1280x960 with AF and AA enabled without
occasional stuttering and slowdowns. This is with a Northwood 3.0GHz
and 1G RAM. I wish I would have gotten a 6800GT... |
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