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The Seabat
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Burning a large AVI file to VCD Reply with quote
Howdy:

I have a 1,433,064 KB .avi file that I would like to burn to a CD and
make a VCD. How do I go about breaking this thing up to fit on, what,
two or three, CD's?? I have Nero 5.5 Express that will burn VCD's.
I've burned 'em before, and Nero seems to convert them into the format
needed for burning. But I have never tried a file this size before and
it won't fit onto one CD-R. What steps do I have to do to accomplish
this task?

Thank you.

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smh
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Burning a large AVI file to VCD Reply with quote
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The Seabat wrote:
Quote:

Howdy:

I have a 1,433,064 KB .avi file that I would like to burn to a CD and
make a VCD. How do I go about breaking this thing up to fit on, what,
two or three, CD's?? I have Nero 5.5 Express that will burn VCD's.
I've burned 'em before, and Nero seems to convert them into the format
needed for burning. But I have never tried a file this size before and
it won't fit onto one CD-R. What steps do I have to do to accomplish
this task?

Use VirtualDub to split. There might be a tutorial in www.videohelp.com
on how to do that as well as where to get it.
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Dave Cohen
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: Burning a large AVI file to VCD Reply with quote
"The Seabat" <seabat@boardermail.com> wrote in message
news:huccm15g102l53171f0vrmfu31j8vg4231@4ax.com...
Quote:
Howdy:

I have a 1,433,064 KB .avi file that I would like to burn to a CD and
make a VCD. How do I go about breaking this thing up to fit on, what,
two or three, CD's?? I have Nero 5.5 Express that will burn VCD's.
I've burned 'em before, and Nero seems to convert them into the format
needed for burning. But I have never tried a file this size before and
it won't fit onto one CD-R. What steps do I have to do to accomplish
this task?

Thank you.

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The Seabat

You can use winzip or similar and specify the file size. There are also
other file splitting programs, the one's I've used run under dos. Whatever
you use, you'll need enough free space on hd to hold the fragments. I think
with winzip you can restore straight from the cd's.
Dave Cohen
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The Seabat
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Burning a large AVI file to VCD Reply with quote
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 00:49:53 GMT, "Dave Cohen" <dave@example.net>
wrote:


Quote:
You can use winzip or similar and specify the file size. There are also
other file splitting programs, the one's I've used run under dos. Whatever
you use, you'll need enough free space on hd to hold the fragments. I think
with winzip you can restore straight from the cd's.
Dave Cohen


I don't want to 'store' the file on a CD, I want to burn it to the CD
as a VCD that can be played in my DVD player that is hooked up to my
TV set.
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Mike Richter
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Burning a large AVI file to VCD Reply with quote
Quote:
"The Seabat" <seabat@boardermail.com> wrote in message
news:huccm15g102l53171f0vrmfu31j8vg4231@4ax.com...

Howdy:

I have a 1,433,064 KB .avi file that I would like to burn to a CD and
make a VCD. How do I go about breaking this thing up to fit on, what,
two or three, CD's?? I have Nero 5.5 Express that will burn VCD's.
I've burned 'em before, and Nero seems to convert them into the format
needed for burning. But I have never tried a file this size before and
it won't fit onto one CD-R. What steps do I have to do to accomplish
this task?

Thank you.

--
The Seabat

Once again, my news server is not showing all posts - in this case,
Seabat's original does not show up. This reply is to the OP, not to Dave
Cohen's reply.

First, the size of an AVI has no relationship to the duration of the
video it produces. AVI is an envelope for an encoded video file (Audio
Video Interlaced). The codec determines the megabytes per minute. Direct
video capture to AVI may use MJPEG and take 13 GB per hour, about 200 MB
per minute. DivX encoding may produce an AVI with 300 MB per hour, about
5 MB per minute. So there's no reason to believe that a 1.4 GB *when
recoded to whitebook parameters* will not fit on a single VCD. Or it may
take four VCDs or more when appropriately transcoded. The issue is
duration, not size, when making VCDs.

Second, a VCD's video files are written in Mode 2, which means about 80
minutes per 80-minute CD-R. So *if* the AVI is in whitebook format
already it needs to be split to two discs. For that, any video editor
will do. I use Adobe Premiere Pro; you may choose the one that suits you
and less expensive and less demanding programs will do the job equally
well. I would recommend that if you need to transcode, you use the same
editor for that job; that is personal preference rather than a criticism
of Ahead's software which I rarely use for that purpose.

Mike
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smh
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: Burning a large AVI file to VCD Reply with quote
.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
http://tinyurl.com/6eldj

(No Mikey S-lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL)
( )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )
'

Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin Shit) splattered:
Quote:

"The Seabat" <seabat@boardermail.com> wrote in message
news:huccm15g102l53171f0vrmfu31j8vg4231@4ax.com...

Howdy:

I have a 1,433,064 KB .avi file that I would like to burn to a CD and
make a VCD. How do I go about breaking this thing up to fit on, what,
two or three, CD's?? I have Nero 5.5 Express that will burn VCD's.
I've burned 'em before, and Nero seems to convert them into the format
needed for burning. But I have never tried a file this size before and
it won't fit onto one CD-R. What steps do I have to do to accomplish
this task?

Thank you.

--
The Seabat

Once again, my news server is not showing all posts - in this case,
Seabat's original does not show up. This reply is to the OP, not to Dave
Cohen's reply.

First, the size of an AVI has no relationship to the duration of the
video it produces. AVI is an envelope for an encoded video file (Audio
Video Interlaced). The codec determines the megabytes per minute. Direct
video capture to AVI may use MJPEG and take 13 GB per hour, about 200 MB
per minute. DivX encoding may produce an AVI with 300 MB per hour, about
5 MB per minute. So there's no reason to believe that a 1.4 GB *when
recoded to whitebook parameters* will not fit on a single VCD. Or it may
take four VCDs or more when appropriately transcoded. The issue is
duration, not size, when making VCDs.

Second, a VCD's video files are written in Mode 2, which means about 80
minutes per 80-minute CD-R. So *if* the AVI is in whitebook format
already it needs to be split to two discs. For that, any video editor
will do. I use Adobe Premiere Pro; you may choose the one that suits you
and less expensive and less demanding programs will do the job equally
well. I would recommend that if you need to transcode, you use the same
editor for that job; that is personal preference rather than a criticism
of Ahead's software which I rarely use for that purpose.

Impressed! But how about simply open the .avi in (free) VirtualDub and
let it show the total frames and playing time? And no mention on the
importance of key frames in splitting, Mikey?
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