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Parko
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject:
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:49:06 +0000, Knowledge Seeker wrote:
| Quote: | So, what should I get?
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Lee
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject:
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| Oh, Ms Chatterly! Don't stop there, I was just starting to enjoy it. |
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FLY135
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:32 pm Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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"Lee" <sonofacrab@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103211500.230289.89710@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Decoding is fine. The quality of the DVD playback is top notch (I use
the nVidia software MPEG decoder with a FX5700 VGA card).
The problem I think lies in the encoding (WinTV card) as everything is
encoded and written to disk before being decoded and squirted out the
VGA card the same way a DVD is.
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You didn't quote my post but if you are refering to my DVD reference I
simply meant that if I recorded from the DVD player I could pause and A/B
compare the dark parts of the scene. No big deal because it probably won't
record Macrovision anyway.
Another interesting quirk with this card is confirmed by technical support.
You can't modify the bitrate and resolution settings except by creating a
*new* profile. After the profile is created you can't modify it. And there
is no support for deleting a profile. You can probably do it in the
registry but this is a silly user interface error. There response was that
they don't support the advanced menu. I have no idea why setting the
bitrate of the recorded MPEG should be an unsupported *advanced* feature.
Still for recording TV shows this card is much better than my Pinnacle PCTV. |
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Jerry G.
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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I am using the ATI Radion 9000. I got it when it first came out. I find it
to be working okay for me. I had no problems with it. There are higher end
models that will give more options.
I've also heard good things about the Hauppauge, and the Pinnacle.
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Jerry G.
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"Knowledge Seeker" <AbsolutelyNoSpamAccepted@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:pe82s0lidd42j749d2501d4h1oeh71pjmk@4ax.com...
Need your input. I would like to install a TV tuner in my PC. Which brand?
And which model?
I do NOT want a USB interface but rather want a card that installs in the
inside. I also know that different cards have different chips and that the
chip is important but I do not know which chip is the best.
I have seen models from ATI, Hauppauge, Pinnacle, and Leadtek. There may be
others. Was planning to wait until next year; however, Circuit City seems
to have a good deal on a card this week (but is it the right
one?)...http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/ATI-TV-Wonder--PRO-Remote-Control-Edi
tion--100-703147-/sem/rpsm/oid/96826/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Primary purpose is to just be able to watch TV on my monitor, but a close
second is to capture video feed to my HD to play back later (either on
monitor or on my actual TV).
May want to eliminate commercials but that is not mandatory and am not
planning to do anything more complicated with editing.
Do not have a HD TV and will not have one for a couple of years, so I do not
need HD capability.
Have a video card that is good enough, so I do not need a All-In-Wonder card
(want to stay with separate cards for regular computing and tv).
My PC =
ATI Radeon 9600 XT Video Card
ViewSonic E790 monitor
Second monitor Samsung SyncMaster 192
AMD Athlon XP 2000+
Mobo: ASUS A7V8X REV 1.xx (Bus Clock: 133 MHz)
BIOS: Award Revision 1006 09/13/2002
Windows XP
2 X 256 PC2700 Installed Memory
So, what should I get? Or where should I go to find comparative reviews of
the latest and bestest? Tom's seems... out-of-date.
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To reply to me directly, please replace the garbage before the @ sign with
the name A-u-t-o-D-e-l-e-t-e-S-p-a-m (without the dashes) |
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JLC
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:12 am Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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"Lee" <sonofacrab@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1103203159.106640.180670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | JLC, you didn't tell him about the dark scenes!
I am happy with my WinTV 150, this has the same encoding hardware as
the 250 and 350 I believe, only it was a fraction of the cost.
Although it causes me no problems (except having to very occasionally
restart the PC to stop the choppy picture), I am looking around for a
card with improved encoding capabilities. When the light level drops
you lose a lot of detail and depth of colour, large parts of the
picture become solid when there should be detail, enough to ruin a
scene, for me anyway.
I was wondering if anyone had compared nVidia's NVTV cards to the WinTV
range, if so, is there any improvement?
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I've never had any problem like you describe with my card. JLC |
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Lady Chatterly
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:30 am Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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In article <32e4seF3k9a0eU5@uni-berlin.de> Jerry G.
<jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote:
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I've also heard good things about the Hauppauge, and the Pinnacle.
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Can anyone recommend some good bug spray ? Preferrably something that
doesn't disturb the ecosystem, but gets rid of the incredibly pesky
bugs... ESP the kind that get under your skin. TANTE !
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Lady Chatterly
"Yo. Say hi to Lady Scatterly, everybody. Buy her a drink, then push
her out the door. She's one of Society & Thomas's socks. After
people made jokes about Tom's drinking problem, LS popped up to give
us a bigger village idiot. She's fun to poke and prod from time to
time. They don't need her for anything important........" -- Turin |
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J. Clarke
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:41 am Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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Lady Chatterly wrote:
| Quote: | In article <32e4seF3k9a0eU5@uni-berlin.de> Jerry G.
jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've also heard good things about the Hauppauge, and the Pinnacle.
Can anyone recommend some good bug spray ? Preferrably something that
doesn't disturb the ecosystem, but gets rid of the incredibly pesky
bugs... ESP the kind that get under your skin. TANTE !
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I used to know a guy who drank Permethrin before he went out, so that any
mosquito that bit him died horribly. Don't know how well that worked, but
he swore by it. He being the kind of guy who would drink Permethrin and
all, it was kind of hard to tell if it had done him any damage.
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Lady Chatterly
"Yo. Say hi to Lady Scatterly, everybody. Buy her a drink, then push
her out the door. She's one of Society & Thomas's socks. After
people made jokes about Tom's drinking problem, LS popped up to give
us a bigger village idiot. She's fun to poke and prod from time to
time. They don't need her for anything important........" -- Turin
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Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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FLY135
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:45 am Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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"Lady Chatterly" <jerryg50@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in message
news:ce06ab5.f5e14931@newsfeed.slurp.net...
| Quote: | In article <32e4seF3k9a0eU5@uni-berlin.de> Jerry G.
jerryg50@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've also heard good things about the Hauppauge, and the Pinnacle.
Can anyone recommend some good bug spray ? Preferrably something that
doesn't disturb the ecosystem, but gets rid of the incredibly pesky
bugs... ESP the kind that get under your skin. TANTE !
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Try Mugwump Jism. Bug Powder Dust will impair your driving. |
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Noozer
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:37 am Post subject:
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"Mikey" <savagem[Delete/Enlever]@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:joawd.14206$pb.976022@news20.bellglobal.com...
| Quote: | Hi;
Very Good: MSI TVanywhere.
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YUCK YUCK YUCK!
I've got an MSI TV Anywhere Master. The hardware is great... the software
SUCKS.
- It takes more that 60 seconds for the FM radio software to even start, and
then it breaks if you try to adjust the settings. It also ignores the audio
input selection, so if you aren't using LINE IN for the card, you're stuck.
- The TV software is a few generations out of date and has errors and issues
in itself.
- MSI support offers ZERO support for the card. |
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T Shadow
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:23 am Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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"Knowledge Seeker" <AbsolutelyNoSpamAccepted@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:pe82s0lidd42j749d2501d4h1oeh71pjmk@4ax.com...
| Quote: | Need your input. I would like to install a TV tuner in my PC. Which
brand? And which model?
I do NOT want a USB interface but rather want a card that installs in the
inside. I also know that different cards have different chips and that the |
chip is important but I do not know which chip is the best.
| Quote: | I have seen models from ATI, Hauppauge, Pinnacle, and Leadtek. There may
be others. Was planning to wait until next year; however, Circuit City |
seems to have a good deal on a card this week (but is it the right
one?)...http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/ATI-TV-Wonder--PRO-Remote-Control-Edi
tion--100-703147-/sem/rpsm/oid/96826/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
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Primary purpose is to just be able to watch TV on my monitor, but a close
second is to capture video feed to my HD to play back later (either on |
monitor or on my actual TV).
| Quote: | May want to eliminate commercials but that is not mandatory and am not
planning to do anything more complicated with editing.
Do not have a HD TV and will not have one for a couple of years, so I do
not need HD capability.
Have a video card that is good enough, so I do not need a All-In-Wonder
card (want to stay with separate cards for regular computing and tv).
So, what should I get? Or where should I go to find comparative reviews of
the >latest and bestest? Tom's seems... out-of-date. |
You don't need an HDTV to watch HDTV. Just watch it on your monitor with the
HDTV Wonder. It will also do the other things you list.
If you insist on staying analog this may be of interest.
http://www.ati.com/products/theater550/index.html |
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Lady Chatterly
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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In article <IXuwd.79309$MG3.66990@fe2.columbus.rr.com> T Shadow <knone@zilch.com.invalid> wrote:
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"Knowledge Seeker" <AbsolutelyNoSpamAccepted@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:pe82s0lidd42j749d2501d4h1oeh71pjmk@4ax.com...
Need your input. I would like to install a TV tuner in my PC. Which
brand? And which model?
I do NOT want a USB interface but rather want a card that installs in the
inside. I also know that different cards have different chips and that the
chip is important but I do not know which chip is the best.
I have seen models from ATI, Hauppauge, Pinnacle, and Leadtek. There may
be others. Was planning to wait until next year; however, Circuit City
seems to have a good deal on a card this week (but is it the right
one?)...http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/ATI-TV-Wonder--PRO-Remote-Control-Edi
tion--100-703147-/sem/rpsm/oid/96826/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Primary purpose is to just be able to watch TV on my monitor, but a close
second is to capture video feed to my HD to play back later (either on
monitor or on my actual TV).
May want to eliminate commercials but that is not mandatory and am not
planning to do anything more complicated with editing.
Do not have a HD TV and will not have one for a couple of years, so I do
not need HD capability.
Have a video card that is good enough, so I do not need a All-In-Wonder
card (want to stay with separate cards for regular computing and tv).
So, what should I get? Or where should I go to find comparative reviews of
the >latest and bestest? Tom's seems... out-of-date.
You don't need an HDTV to watch HDTV. Just watch it on your monitor with the
HDTV Wonder. It will also do the other things you list.
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Hon. Am I not speaking *sllloooowwwwllly* enough for you?
--
Lady Chatterly
"Neither he nor I even have the time to read all the attention you
give us now. Only Lady Chatterly can keep up with the constant flow
of Yingarrhea." -- Daedalus |
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Andrew
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:36 pm Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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After having twice bought Allinwonder's,the first PCI card was twice
replaced (after weeks of E-Mails and phone calls to ATI) before I got a
refund. The second one (AGP) failed after three weeks and I asked for a
refund rather than a replacement. I bought a Compro Videomate TV Gold PlusII
last month and am very pleased with it. An initial problem was quickly
sorted
out by E-Mail and the latest driver.
http://www.comprousa.com/index.htm
Andrew
"Knowledge Seeker" <AbsolutelyNoSpamAccepted@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:pe82s0lidd42j749d2501d4h1oeh71pjmk@4ax.com...
| Quote: | Need your input. I would like to install a TV tuner in my PC. Which
brand? And which model?
I do NOT want a USB interface but rather want a card that installs in the
inside. I also know that different cards have different chips and that
the chip is important but I do not know which chip is the best.
I have seen models from ATI, Hauppauge, Pinnacle, and Leadtek. There may
be others. Was planning to wait until next year; however, Circuit City
seems to have a good deal on a card this week (but is it the right
one?)...http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/ATI-TV-Wonder--PRO-Remote-Control-Edition--100-703147-/sem/rpsm/oid/96826/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Primary purpose is to just be able to watch TV on my monitor, but a close
second is to capture video feed to my HD to play back later (either on
monitor or on my actual TV).
May want to eliminate commercials but that is not mandatory and am not
planning to do anything more complicated with editing.
Do not have a HD TV and will not have one for a couple of years, so I do
not need HD capability.
Have a video card that is good enough, so I do not need a All-In-Wonder
card (want to stay with separate cards for regular computing and tv).
My PC =
ATI Radeon 9600 XT Video Card
ViewSonic E790 monitor
Second monitor Samsung SyncMaster 192
AMD Athlon XP 2000+
Mobo: ASUS A7V8X REV 1.xx (Bus Clock: 133 MHz)
BIOS: Award Revision 1006 09/13/2002
Windows XP
2 X 256 PC2700 Installed Memory
So, what should I get? Or where should I go to find comparative reviews
of the latest and bestest? Tom's seems... out-of-date.
--
To reply to me directly, please replace the garbage before the @ sign with
the name A-u-t-o-D-e-l-e-t-e-S-p-a-m (without the dashes) |
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T Shadow
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:38 pm Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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"Lady Chatterly" <knone@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in message
news:28aec88.c9229763@pita.alt.net...
| Quote: | In article <IXuwd.79309$MG3.66990@fe2.columbus.rr.com> T Shadow
knone@zilch.com.invalid> wrote:
"Knowledge Seeker" <AbsolutelyNoSpamAccepted@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:pe82s0lidd42j749d2501d4h1oeh71pjmk@4ax.com...
Need your input. I would like to install a TV tuner in my PC. Which
brand? And which model?
I do NOT want a USB interface but rather want a card that installs in
the
inside. I also know that different cards have different chips and that
the
chip is important but I do not know which chip is the best.
I have seen models from ATI, Hauppauge, Pinnacle, and Leadtek. There
may
be others. Was planning to wait until next year; however, Circuit City
seems to have a good deal on a card this week (but is it the right
one?)...http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/ATI-TV-Wonder--PRO-Remote-Control-Ed
i
tion--100-703147-/sem/rpsm/oid/96826/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Primary purpose is to just be able to watch TV on my monitor, but a
close
second is to capture video feed to my HD to play back later (either on
monitor or on my actual TV).
May want to eliminate commercials but that is not mandatory and am not
planning to do anything more complicated with editing.
Do not have a HD TV and will not have one for a couple of years, so I
do
not need HD capability.
Have a video card that is good enough, so I do not need a All-In-Wonder
card (want to stay with separate cards for regular computing and tv).
So, what should I get? Or where should I go to find comparative reviews
of
the >latest and bestest? Tom's seems... out-of-date.
You don't need an HDTV to watch HDTV. Just watch it on your monitor with
the
HDTV Wonder. It will also do the other things you list.
Hon. Am I not speaking *sllloooowwwwllly* enough for you?
--
Lady Chatterly
"Neither he nor I even have the time to read all the attention you
give us now. Only Lady Chatterly can keep up with the constant flow
of Yingarrhea." -- Daedalus
Try coherent. |
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Mikey
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:23 pm Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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Hi Noozer,
MSI latest drivers dated 21st sept.2004...and I have not been to the site since
then!
Everything's rosy here.
"Noozer" <dontspam@me.here> wrote in message
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"Mikey" <savagem[Delete/Enlever]@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:joawd.14206$pb.976022@news20.bellglobal.com...
Hi;
Very Good: MSI TVanywhere.
YUCK YUCK YUCK!
I've got an MSI TV Anywhere Master. The hardware is great... the software
SUCKS.
- It takes more that 60 seconds for the FM radio software to even start, and
then it breaks if you try to adjust the settings. It also ignores the audio
input selection, so if you aren't using LINE IN for the card, you're stuck.
- The TV software is a few generations out of date and has errors and issues
in itself.
- MSI support offers ZERO support for the card.
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Helper Monkey Assault Squ
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:31 pm Post subject:
Re: Need your advice on TV tuner cards |
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:54:50 GMT, Rey@RadioGuy.com wrote:
| Quote: | I'd avoid the All-In-Wonder card like the plague. Been real happy
with my Hauppauge WinTV PVR 250.
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After much reading (and owning an AIW 9800 Pro), I'd agree.
Go with the Hauppauge PVR 250. Particularly if you want to play with
XP MCE or Beyond Tv. |
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