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Ikaros
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:59 am    Post subject: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

Anyone with an ATI Radeon card try the new 4.12 drivers with Need For Speed:
Underground 2? Any performance boost or problems?

Steve
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Alex Devlin
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

On 14 Dec 2004, Ikaros wrote:

Quote:
Anyone with an ATI Radeon card try the new 4.12 drivers with Need For
Speed: Underground 2? Any performance boost or problems?

Steve




Try Omega's drivers for ATI www.omegadrivers.net
Written for performance without all the bloat of ATI's drivers.


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have to offer. You CAN'T PARK HERE."
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Tony DiMarzio
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

That was useful.

Q: "Anyone know if HL2 will work on my AMD CPU???"
A: "Buy an Intel. They are more gooder."

sheesh
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Aki Peltola
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

"Alex Devlin" <Alex@127.0.0.1> wrote
Quote:
Try Omega's drivers for ATI www.omegadrivers.net
Written for performance without all the bloat of ATI's drivers.

Oh yeah, Omega is the savior, Omega is the solution
for everything. Hallelujah!

Ahem. But I've always had the complete opposite feeling,
Omegas felt too much of a bloat compared to pure ATI-
drivers (and meaning the control panel-version here).

Not to mention that I noticed zero difference in performance
and visual quality, so have you Omega-fans actually
benchmarked the drivers in practical gaming? Or are the
differences noticeable only with the high-end cards like
X800 etc.?
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Alex Devlin
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

On 15 Dec 2004, Aki Peltola wrote:

Quote:
"Alex Devlin" <Alex@127.0.0.1> wrote
Try Omega's drivers for ATI www.omegadrivers.net
Written for performance without all the bloat of ATI's drivers.

Oh yeah, Omega is the savior, Omega is the solution
for everything. Hallelujah!

Ahem. But I've always had the complete opposite feeling,
Omegas felt too much of a bloat compared to pure ATI-
drivers (and meaning the control panel-version here).

Not to mention that I noticed zero difference in performance
and visual quality, so have you Omega-fans actually
benchmarked the drivers in practical gaming? Or are the
differences noticeable only with the high-end cards like
X800 etc.?




Not saying that Omega drivers are the saviours. I tried them and my games
run faster. The OP wanted to know if there was a performance increase
with the new ATI drivers. I noticed no increase at all with the new ATI
ones but did notice the omega ones were (slightly) faster.

If you don't want to use them then don't use them. Not everyone has heard
of them and with some machines they do give a speed increase.

I run a 9600XT, P42.8E, 1024MB ram and theres a performance increase on
mine.

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have to offer. You CAN'T PARK HERE."
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The Berzerker
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

"Aki Peltola" <aape@POISTAnic.fi> wrote in message
news:cponf7$sqr$4@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi...
Quote:
"Alex Devlin" <Alex@127.0.0.1> wrote
Try Omega's drivers for ATI www.omegadrivers.net
Written for performance without all the bloat of ATI's drivers.

Oh yeah, Omega is the savior, Omega is the solution
for everything. Hallelujah!

Ahem. But I've always had the complete opposite feeling,
Omegas felt too much of a bloat compared to pure ATI-
drivers (and meaning the control panel-version here).

Not to mention that I noticed zero difference in performance
and visual quality, so have you Omega-fans actually
benchmarked the drivers in practical gaming? Or are the
differences noticeable only with the high-end cards like
X800 etc.?



When the ATI 4.10s were out I used those for a while before migrating to
omega' sdrivers (which were based upon 4.10b) and I noticed an increase of
10fps in Doom 3 using the timedemo feature. That's a significant increase,
don't you say? I'm using a 9800 Pro 128MB.

I've been using Omega Drivers since, so can't really compare them to the
latest ATI ones. However, I'm confident that they're better or at least
equal.
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Toe Jam
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

Ikaros wrote:
Quote:
Anyone with an ATI Radeon card try the new 4.12 drivers with Need For
Speed: Underground 2? Any performance boost or problems?

Steve


Nobody knows the answer to your question.

But you did start an ATI/Omega argument! <g>
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Wblane
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

I always wondered which CPU was goodest ;^)

Quote:
That was useful.

Q: "Anyone know if HL2 will work on my AMD CPU???"
A: "Buy an Intel. They are more gooder."

sheesh


-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
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Aki Peltola
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

"The Berzerker" <Berzerker@wooooooo.com> wrote
Quote:
When the ATI 4.10s were out I used those for a while before migrating to
omega' sdrivers (which were based upon 4.10b) and I noticed an increase of
10fps in Doom 3 using the timedemo feature. That's a significant increase,
don't you say? I'm using a 9800 Pro 128MB.

Well yes, that's quite a nice boost. I'd be happy to get
even 5fps gain, but I guess the lower-end cards like
9600pro aren't that good of a benefitters what comes
to driver tweaks.
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Skot
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

Yep - I'm running 4.12 Catalyst on an ATI 9800Pro up top of an AMD 1800 and
everything is hunky-dorey.

Forgive me, but, I think that a lot of people's problems with NFSU2 is down
to a not-as-god-as-perfection setup rather than the game itself. I'm running
at 1024x768 on my old AMD1800 and the game, by 'n' large is excellent.

Sorry(?)
Skot.


"Ikaros" <snmavronis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Anyone with an ATI Radeon card try the new 4.12 drivers with Need For
Speed:
Underground 2? Any performance boost or problems?

Steve

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Skot
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

Actually, I just re-read this post.

I'm perhaps being a bit blasé but NFSU2 runs real well on my AMD1800. I do
honestly think that this must be down to the **cleanliness** of the system
(anti-flame: Y'all know what I mean).

It may seem like preaching to the converted but
Run Task Manager - is any process taking more than 5% CPU? If so, figure
out why...
While in Task Manager, check Performance / Commit Charge / Total

if that figure is > 75% of your physical memory then you're out of memory
(insert full-stop here)

Buy more RAM
or
Run ad-aware and check that secret smelly sh*tty people aren't stealing
your CPU cycles.

In a nutshell; I can run NFSU2 on an AMD1800 with 756MB RAM with no probs.
Cheers,
Scott.


"Ikaros" <snmavronis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6K-dnTWKyvnSByLcRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
Quote:
Anyone with an ATI Radeon card try the new 4.12 drivers with Need For
Speed:
Underground 2? Any performance boost or problems?

Steve

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Ikaros
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

My system is an Intel Pentium 4 CPU 1.7ghz, 768mb DDR RAM, ATI Radeon 9500
Pro 128mb, Windows XP SP2.
I'm up to date with all Windows Updates and hardware drivers. Running ATI
4.11 Cats right now. I run Ad-Aware several times a week and my system is
clean. BTW, I've been a PC Tech since 1985 by profession.

Anyway, I didn't say I had any performance problems with NFSU2. It runs well
at 1024x768 using AA and most detail settings turned up.

I am a bit leary about installing the 4.12 Cats because when I tried the
4.12beta drivers, the 3D games I play - NFSU, NFSU2, UT2004 - all had
graphics corruption in the game menus, etc. Even when I uninstalled the
betas using the Cat Uninstaller program, it still left older ATI drivers on
my system and re-installing the 4.11s wouldn't fix it, until I had to use
Windows Search to find and delete any 2004 ATI files dated before the August
time frame to play it safe. For some reason the Cat Uninstaller didn't
remove them. After doing this manual removal process I was able to put back
the 4.11 drivers and everything worked again.

Steve

"Skot" <scott.leckie@btclick.com> wrote in message
news:cpt5q5$s1q$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
Quote:
Actually, I just re-read this post.

I'm perhaps being a bit blasé but NFSU2 runs real well on my AMD1800. I do
honestly think that this must be down to the **cleanliness** of the system
(anti-flame: Y'all know what I mean).

It may seem like preaching to the converted but
Run Task Manager - is any process taking more than 5% CPU? If so,
figure
out why...
While in Task Manager, check Performance / Commit Charge / Total

if that figure is > 75% of your physical memory then you're out of memory
(insert full-stop here)

Buy more RAM
or
Run ad-aware and check that secret smelly sh*tty people aren't stealing
your CPU cycles.

In a nutshell; I can run NFSU2 on an AMD1800 with 756MB RAM with no probs.
Cheers,
Scott.


"Ikaros" <snmavronis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6K-dnTWKyvnSByLcRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
Anyone with an ATI Radeon card try the new 4.12 drivers with Need For
Speed:
Underground 2? Any performance boost or problems?

Steve



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Jez
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: ATI 4.12 Video Drivers & NFSU2 Reply with quote

Ikaros wrote:
Quote:
Anyone with an ATI Radeon card try the new 4.12 drivers with Need For Speed:
Underground 2? Any performance boost or problems?

Just installed the Cat4.12's, no improvement at all that I noticed, with
my Radeon 9800AIW
But no problems either, so I'll probably keep using them..


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notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
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