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Connected
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:40 am Post subject:
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Weren't these guys taken to court and told to stop selling their DVD
movie copying software? I ask because I was in a store in Canada
yesterday (London Drugs) and they had a copy of DVDXCopy on the shelf
for $99.00 CAD. The box stated that it would let you copy any movie. I
asked the clerk if they knew if they were supposed to be selling that
software or not and she just shrugged her shoulders. I'm pretty sure
this software is no longer supposed to be sold, at least not in the
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BananaOfTheNight
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Dan G
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Mike Richter
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:19 am Post subject:
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Connected wrote:
| Quote: | Weren't these guys taken to court and told to stop selling their DVD
movie copying software? I ask because I was in a store in Canada
yesterday (London Drugs) and they had a copy of DVDXCopy on the shelf
for $99.00 CAD. The box stated that it would let you copy any movie. I
asked the clerk if they knew if they were supposed to be selling that
software or not and she just shrugged her shoulders. I'm pretty sure
this software is no longer supposed to be sold, at least not in the
U.S.
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It is more complicated than that. Suffice it to say that when last I
heard 321 was in bankruptcy and no longer publishing the program. Copies
on hand in stores or at distributors are not termed illegal and may be
sold. There were agreements behind 321's actions, but AFAIK no court
decision.
But for the real 'skinny', have your lawyer read the documentation.
Mike
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Connected
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:09 am Post subject:
Re: DVDXCopy |
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| Quote: | http://www.dvddecrypter.com/
'Nuff said.
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I know about that software but that's not what my question was. |
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:10 am Post subject:
Re: DVDXCopy |
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:18:31 -0700, "Dan G" <Dan@xxxx.com> wrote:
I know about that software too but that is still not what my question
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:22 am Post subject:
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:19:35 -0800, Mike Richter <mrichter@cpl.net>
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| Quote: | It is more complicated than that. Suffice it to say that when last I
heard 321 was in bankruptcy and no longer publishing the program. Copies
on hand in stores or at distributors are not termed illegal and may be
sold. There were agreements behind 321's actions, but AFAIK no court
decision.
But for the real 'skinny', have your lawyer read the documentation.
Mike
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Well, I'm not going to buy it when I know there is free software that
will do the same. I don't copy movies anyway - it is an extremely long
process to decrypt, shrink and burn and not worth my time, plus it's
illegal. I have a friend that has a copy of DVDXCopy (OEM) and he had
to register it and get a keycode over the interent before it would
work. If the company no longer exists then these boxed copies they are
selling are probably useless if they need to be authenticated too. I
know the company put out a patch that deactivated the movie copying
capabilities as ordered by the courts but of course if you didn't
download and install the patch you could still copy movies with it.
And DVDXcopy doesn't even work on the more recent version of
Macrovision anyway, according to my friend. IMO, any store still
selling this software is scamming the customer, if they know it or not
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Dan G
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:04 am Post subject:
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There's nothing illegal about copying your own DVD's, unless they are
encrypted. Some are and some aren't. |
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Lordy
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:58 am Post subject:
Re: DVDXCopy |
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| Quote: | There's nothing illegal about copying your own DVD's, unless they are
encrypted. Some are and some aren't.
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Depends where you live. US it isn't. UK it is (AFAIK).
re DVDXCopy, I think they had to remove the css cracking feature, so you
cant copy css encoded movies. (Could be wrong - from memory). Most
comercial dvd copy software has the same restriction. I'm still surprised
AnyDVD is going strong as a commercial product!!!
As an aside, I'm guessing Most DVDs are now backed up using either one of
DVDShrink, AnyDVD or DVDDecrypter. As the latter two will soon be able to
bypass the new Sony protection (if not already), I just wonder how much the
Sony execs paid for some protection that will be penetrated like a hot
knife through butter in a month or two..(if not already)
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Connected
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:01 am Post subject:
Re: DVDXCopy |
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| Quote: | There's nothing illegal about copying your own DVD's, unless they are
encrypted. Some are and some aren't.
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BS. Every movie has a message that it is a federal offence to copy
this movie. Every movie. |
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Dan G
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:23 am Post subject:
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Placing a message on a video does not create law. The law in the USA is that
you have a right to copy anything you own as long as you don't profit from
it or distribute it illegally. The exception is that you do not have the
right to defeat anti-copy measures like CSS encryption or Macrovision. |
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MCheu
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:23 am Post subject:
Re: DVDXCopy |
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| Quote: | Weren't these guys taken to court and told to stop selling their DVD
movie copying software? I ask because I was in a store in Canada
yesterday (London Drugs) and they had a copy of DVDXCopy on the shelf
for $99.00 CAD. The box stated that it would let you copy any movie. I
asked the clerk if they knew if they were supposed to be selling that
software or not and she just shrugged her shoulders. I'm pretty sure
this software is no longer supposed to be sold, at least not in the
U.S.
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What are you the software police?
Canada isn't the USA, and court orders issued there don't necessarily
translate here. Even if DVDXCopy violates Canadian laws in some way,
it's unlikely the mounties are going to raid stores that still have
copies on shelves.
At any rate, it's a moot point. DVDXCopy is a dead product. It's
not actively supported anymore, and some people have reported problems
with the program's activation protection. Pretty ironic considering
what it is.
I suspect that the store's stuck with it, as I think the "return to
distributor" window may have closed. It's a shelf ornament now.
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MCheu |
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Brendan R. Wehrung
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:23 am Post subject:
Re: DVDXCopy |
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Mike Richter (mrichter@cpl.net) writes:
| Quote: | Connected wrote:
Weren't these guys taken to court and told to stop selling their DVD
movie copying software? I ask because I was in a store in Canada
yesterday (London Drugs) and they had a copy of DVDXCopy on the shelf
for $99.00 CAD. The box stated that it would let you copy any movie. I
asked the clerk if they knew if they were supposed to be selling that
software or not and she just shrugged her shoulders. I'm pretty sure
this software is no longer supposed to be sold, at least not in the
U.S.
It is more complicated than that. Suffice it to say that when last I
heard 321 was in bankruptcy and no longer publishing the program. Copies
on hand in stores or at distributors are not termed illegal and may be
sold. There were agreements behind 321's actions, but AFAIK no court
decision.
But for the real 'skinny', have your lawyer read the documentation.
Mike
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http://www.mrichter.com/
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Weren't they lawyered to death, just couldn't afford the appeal and gave up?
The program is still for sale in Europe, and they have a Canadian web
site, so support of some kind.
Brendan
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Connected
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject:
Re: DVDXCopy |
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:31:32 -0700, "Dan G" <Dan@xxxx.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Placing a message on a video does not create law. The law in the USA is that
you have a right to copy anything you own as long as you don't profit from
it or distribute it illegally.
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Can you show me the legal jargon that states this. |
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Connected
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:25 pm Post subject:
Re: DVDXCopy |
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:16:34 -0500, MCheu <mpcheu@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | What are you the software police?
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Yea, hahaha.
| Quote: | Canada isn't the USA, and court orders issued there don't necessarily
translate here. Even if DVDXCopy violates Canadian laws in some way,
it's unlikely the mounties are going to raid stores that still have
copies on shelves.
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They might if I rat on them. Remember? I'm the software Police. hahaha
| Quote: | At any rate, it's a moot point. DVDXCopy is a dead product. It's
not actively supported anymore, and some people have reported problems
with the program's activation protection. Pretty ironic considering
what it is.
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Exactly! So it's a useless POS program now and any customer who is
gullible enough to buy it will get scammed out of pocket of $99.00
CAD. But I guess you have no problem with that, eh? |
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