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Doc
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:11 am Post subject:
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David D. typed this:
| Quote: | Saw a couple of nice D-Links last night. Less expensive than AXIS, will
buy just ONE cam to begin with and see how it works...
The Dlink DCS 900 cameras seems Ok (and are cheaper than AXIS), note
there are some on www.ebay.com ! ;-)
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Bought one today. Will begin the process when it arrives. Seems like it
sets up nicely. Have to see. Hope so... Will try for streaming thru a
dynamic dns service (my IP is dynamic, so...). Be fun.
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Rich "Doc" Colley
mailto: pc-dc-doc@nospam.comcast.net |
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Doc
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:12 am Post subject:
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Rick H typed this:
| Quote: | Thom
I read this post and would like to inquire of you or the group of like
a best setup for webcam with xphome sp2, ethernet wired cam, no fixed
ip (bellsouth.net dsl). cam for work and home.
I like the Dlink DCS 900, but wondering how i post the images to a dns
server. are the free ones good options. Do i need to get Dynamic DNS
services where I can assign an easy-to-remember name and domain (e.g.
www.mycamera.dryerbox.com). This would allow me to remotely access my
camera even if it has been changed by your Internet Service Provider.
i see you recommended microsoft media encoder. sorry to bother you
with this, just trying to get a grip on how best to go about it.
thanks in advance.
rick
Jupiter, FL
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Hi Rick,
Pro and home shouldn't be too much difference for this.
I don't have a fixed Ip.
What Wireless A/Point - router do you have?
I'll keep you up to date on my efforts as soon as the cam arrives.
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Rich "Doc" Colley
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Thom
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:57 am Post subject:
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Rick H <rick@dryerbox.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thom
I read this post and would like to inquire of you or the group of like
a best setup for webcam with xphome sp2, ethernet wired cam, no fixed
ip (bellsouth.net dsl). cam for work and home.
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All I can honestly attest to is an old (circa '99) Intel webcam combined
with WME.
| Quote: | I like the Dlink DCS 900, but wondering how i post the images to a dns
server. are the free ones good options. Do i need to get Dynamic DNS
services where I can assign an easy-to-remember name and domain (e.g.
www.mycamera.dryerbox.com). This would allow me to remotely access my
camera even if it has been changed by your Internet Service Provider.
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If I'm understanding you correctly? ...No. It doesn't work that way.
Maybe this will help?
I serve the cam located at www.crampy.com/webcam.htm directly from my
machine. The reason I do this, is because if I tried to run it through my
website (crampy.com), I might quickly surpass my bandwidth up/download
allotment for the month.
To avoid that? ...
I set it up so all I'm *really* doing, is supplying a "link" (on the
website) to the feed from my computer.
This doesn't change the fact that my IP may change at a moment's notice even
though I have a cable connection. But even if it does? It's just a matter
of a simple correction. "Down Time" would be less than 5 minutes.
| Quote: | i see you recommended microsoft media encoder. sorry to bother you
with this, just trying to get a grip on how best to go about it.
thanks in advance.
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No bother at all. I'm just not real sure I understood what you are asking,
or if I answered you properly.
Thom |
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Rick H
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject:
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Thanks Thom
Can I trouble you to provide a short version of of a step by step to
supplying a "link" (on the website) to the feed from my computer. Is
this done with a script? and if the cam was a ethernet cam, could the
router software or interface open up the appropriate port, and them
how would i see or access that ip over the internet if my pc was off.
My whole hang up is, if the cam picks up an ip of say 192.168.1.106,
which is just a local router ip, how do i actually see it from outside
if the ip on my router changes due to the dsl service i have. if i
use one of the free services, for dynamic dns, i am still wondering
how i setup the whole thing.
You seem to do it when the pc is on through a script and an open port.
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Thom
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Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:32 pm Post subject:
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Rick H <rick@dryerbox.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks Thom
Can I trouble you to provide a short version of of a step by step to
supplying a "link" (on the website) to the feed from my computer. Is
this done with a script?
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It can be done in various ways. I'm doing it by placing an "object" element
in the HTML on the page. Like so;
{Credit to Noel}
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<object id="NSPlay"
classid="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95"
codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=5,1,52,701"
standby="Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player components..."
type="application/x-oleobject">
<param name="FileName" value="http://yourIP:Your port#/">
<param name="ShowControls" value="0">
<param name="ShowDisplay" value="0">
<param name="ShowStatusBar" value="1">
<param name="AutoSize" value="0">
<embed width = "336" height = "280"
type="application/x-mplayer2"
pluginspage="http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/Downloads/Contents/Products/MediaPlayer/"
</embed>
</object>
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The only change you would need to make to the above would be to insert your
IP and port # in the "File Name" param. Just make sure you leave the colon
(:) right where it is. So it's like .. "http://123.45.67.8COLON8080/"
| Quote: | and if the cam was a ethernet cam, could the
router software or interface open up the appropriate port, and them
how would i see or access that ip over the internet if my pc was off.
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Can't help ya there. Sorry.
| Quote: | My whole hang up is, if the cam picks up an ip of say 192.168.1.106,
which is just a local router ip, how do i actually see it from outside
if the ip on my router changes due to the dsl service i have. if i
use one of the free services, for dynamic dns, i am still wondering
how i setup the whole thing.
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Again. I'm not sure. Hopefully someone will be along shortly who can
answer you properly.
| Quote: | You seem to do it when the pc is on through a script and an open port.
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That's correct. I use my "real" IP (not my router's) along with the object
element described above. Some of my more security-oriented friends ask me
why I leave my IP open to the world like that. And all I can tell 'em is
that my IP ain't exactly a secret. :-) Comcast/Giganews tacks it onto every
email I send, and every newsgroup post I make. (Check my headers.) I
suppose if someone really wanted to "get me", they could. But what are they
gonna do? Ping me to death? If I see that happening, all I have to do is
release/renew my IP, report it to Comcast, and let *them* deal with it. :-)
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Thom |
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bumtracks
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Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:40 am Post subject:
Re: Wireless WebCam for Observing home, inside... nanny, so |
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"Rick H" <
| Quote: | My whole hang up is, if the cam picks up an ip of say 192.168.1.106,
which is just a local router ip, how do i actually see it from outside
if the ip on my router changes due to the dsl service i have. if i
use one of the free services, for dynamic dns, i am still wondering
how i setup the whole thing.
most network cams will have internal settings for free dydns.com & some |
others - first you would sign up there and choose a friendly offering like
homeip.net then add a name infront of it of your choosing ,,, like
myNanny.homeip.net, inside the camera choose dydns.com and fill in
login/password then every few minutes hopefully it will self check and if
wan IP changes it goes and logins to dydns and updates the records.
Set your cam internally to a ip# outside the routers DHCP range - most
routers use DHCP/ip ending#'s around .150 through .200, so maybe just simply
choose the default cam ip usually 192.168.0.20 and preferably internally
set cam ports to something other than 80, like 81 & 8081 so all the
misc.never.ever.ending hack attempts on 80 are still generically blocked by
the router.
In your router under Virtual Server set the cam IP# to allow WAN traffic on
the ports you've chosen. like above IP 192.168.0.20 TCP port 81 > 81 and
duplicate a seperate VirtualServer rule/setting for each other opened port
it requires.
Then your web page link or direct access to the cam will be
http://myNanny.homeip.net:81/
Something like that is how it works...
Make much more sense if you have a network cam , router & look at its
configurations - Hopefully
ps. (I use dyndns, they allow up to five free names and its been 100%
reliable for me - that I'm aware of anyhow.) |
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Doc
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Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:42 am Post subject:
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Doc typed this:
| Quote: | David D. typed this:
Saw a couple of nice D-Links last night. Less expensive than
AXIS, will buy just ONE cam to begin with and see how it works...
The Dlink DCS 900 cameras seems Ok (and are cheaper than AXIS),
note there are some on www.ebay.com ! ;-)
Bought one today. Will begin the process when it arrives. Seems like
it sets up nicely. Have to see. Hope so... Will try for streaming
thru a dynamic dns service (my IP is dynamic, so...). Be fun.
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Okay, rec'd the D-Link DCS900W Wireless WebCam on Friday..
unpacked it, nice looking, fairly rugged, easy to quickly attach base
and wireless ant. and power supply.
Software Quick Start is PRETTY basic. The CD has the more complete
USER'S QUIDE and, while it is fairly self-explanatory, the device needs
some configuring to use behind a ROUTER / FW and that is best explained
in the full USER GUIDE.
Basic setup and first function using Defaults was simple and quick.
Then setting up Wireless access to router (vs. best practice 'first' use
cat cable) went pretty well (I use a ZyXel Prestige 334W - had 'not'
been setup for wireless before - rather insecure in my estimate) -
The CAMERA does NOT support WPA, ONLY WEP. Darn... I used a 'share only'
key of 128bit and hid the ssid in addition to Mac filtering. None of
which make it as secure as I believe (I think) WPA might, but what is
one to do...?
Both Wireless and Cat connections worked without fault.
Setup a DynDNS.org account and setup a Dynamic name to augment the
sometimes changing dynamic IP address I get from Comcast ISP.
Port forwarded to something other than default in the ZyXel (uses SUA
as the port forwarding and NOT really a selection for protocol that I
could see in the GUI management interface, perhaps in the Command Line
or telnet interface - ?? AnYONE??? -
Called a friend and had them plug the Dyn account name into their
Browser along wiht the PORT identifier and away we went.
Will use the IPView software for the addition of two more cameras. Note
the 'view' of the lens is moderately narrow ... would like a slightly
wider camera angle but NOT SURE if ANY cam for this PRICE would do that.
In addition, the IPView allows for motion sensing and alerting, so
forth. Can off load to HD for storage and over-write per instructions.
Still tinkering, not bad.
Thanks.
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Rich "Doc" Colley
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Rick H
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Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:53 am Post subject:
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David, i have the 900w. behind a linksys router. can i get some
screen shots of your setup so i can get this working. probably with
dysDNS.org. thanks and sorry if any trouble. |
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David D.
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Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject:
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On 4 Oct 2004 15:53:15 -0700, rick@dryerbox.com (Rick H) wrote:
| Quote: | David, i have the 900w. behind a linksys router. can i get some
screen shots of your setup so i can get this working. probably with
dysDNS.org. thanks and sorry if any trouble.
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I don't own a 900w, I wish to. |
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