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Bill 2
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS WITH MY HP OR CANON PRINTERS. OF
COURSE I ONLY USE OEM INK. I DO PRINT ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH EACH
PRINTER.
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Do you only print uppercase text? Maybe the OP's problem is they are
printing lowercase text, which requires smaller nozzles, so they clog
easier. |
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:00 am Post subject:
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Susan
Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some but
not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
manufactured non-refillable cartridges..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Susan Sharm" <susanshaarm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131861989.689133.299360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | What is the procedure for home repair of Hewlett Packard #14 print
heads?
My CYAN stopped printing (even though the refilled cartridge is full)
and a diagnostic report from the HP OfficeJet D145 all in one printer
says the CYAN print head needs to be replaced.
Since the print head has to be replaced, I may as well attempt a home
repair. But how?
A friend suggested I remove the bad cyan printhead drip a solvent such
as alcohol or acetone or hydrogen peroxide on the top steel grid until
it runs clear - which might unblock the screen in case it's blocked by
teeny tiny honey-I-shrunk-the-kids debris.
He said then to gently swipe the bottom of the print head with the
solvent so as to free up goldish metallic strips on the bottom.
Is there a published procedure for home cleaning & repair of print
heads as a last ditch effort before replacing them altogether?
Susan
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Rita Ä Berkowitz
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:09 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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Susan Sharm wrote:
| Quote: | This sounds like an interesting idea. Am I guessing correctly that the
main evil is that the printhead is "clogged" internally and the boiling
water dissolves the clog?
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Yes. I buy used plotters that usually have been sitting in storage for a
few years unused. I use this technique all the time to recondition the
printheads for testing and reconditioning before resale. The boiling hot
water dissolves the crap in the head and brings it back to new condition.
| Quote: | What is inside the printhead? I found a description of the printhead at
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I don't know since I never had one apart.
| Quote: | http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06c/A10-12771-64199-69422-69422-34067-72637-34076.html
But the HP article didn't describe how a printhead works. If I knew how
it works (and what is inside that little tank) then I could better
figure out how to repair it.
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It's really not of any benefit to even worry about it.
| Quote: | Once we pull the printhead out of the boiling water, should I soak it
with ink from the top screen or leave it filled with the hot water
before putting the printhead back into the HP d145 officejet? Or do we
empty it out and put the printhead back into the all-in-one
printer/fax/scanner filled with air?
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After removal from the hot water just place it on some paper towels several
layers thick to wick out as much water as possible. The drier the better.
Once dry, just reinstall the printhead in the printer/plotter and let the
device do the rest. It will be just like new.
Rita |
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zakezuke
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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| Quote: | Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some but
not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
manufactured non-refillable cartridges.
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Most people I know who refill their HPs buy OEM cartridges and fit them
for refilling after they are empty... and keep a spair set of
cartridges when the printhead finally dies. To be honest I never got
into refilling HP tanks... though I did buy refilled ones and they
worked pretty well. I'm sure there is a higher failure rate among
refills but this risk is in the sub 1% range and can be minimized by
buying more than one set at a time. Those fill as you wait places that
take the time to test the cartridges also help to keep the risk down.
But you are right, one needs to set their priorites
1. Downtime - OEM or serviced refilling
2. economics - refill or prefills
3. ecocology - refill, prefills, serviced refilling
But I disagree with it being "NOT a good idea" It's a fine idea. There
are those of use who value the economics of printing or doing our
*small* part to actually reduce waste. After all we share a planet,
and every dollar we spend is a vote tward what our posterity will
inherit... blue skies or magenta rivers. |
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JR
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:22 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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Bill 2 wrote:
| Quote: | "measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:XzKdf.26212$6e1.1525@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
I DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS WITH MY HP OR CANON PRINTERS. OF
COURSE I ONLY USE OEM INK. I DO PRINT ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH EACH
PRINTER.
Do you only print uppercase text? Maybe the OP's problem is they are
printing lowercase text, which requires smaller nozzles, so they clog
easier.
ha! you funne. |
jr |
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:41 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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Noble sentiments, except that most who refill have ruined at least one item
of clothing, used solvents of dubious ecological integrity in an attempt to
remove ink stains off of clothing and hands, used solvents of dubious
ecological integrity in an attempt to clean an intransigent print head, used
more than one sheet of paper while trying to get a test page that shows all
is well..
Add to the above frustration at not being able to get the printer to produce
anything meaningful, and maybe it is not such a good idea..
In the meantime, some industrial companies are still contravening every
ecological law, garbage and sewage is still being dumped into the oceans and
landfill sites while nobody is looking, and the absolute worst is members of
the general public dumping medications into their domestic effluent removal
systems which then infect the entire water system, not only for re-use by
us, but in a way that apparently renders sea life impotent.. way to go..
While I accept that every little step taken is a good one, all is not always
as it seems, and in many cases, one step forward is followed by a couple of
backwards steps..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131909038.955102.323370@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some
but
not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
manufactured non-refillable cartridges.
Most people I know who refill their HPs buy OEM cartridges and fit them
for refilling after they are empty... and keep a spair set of
cartridges when the printhead finally dies. To be honest I never got
into refilling HP tanks... though I did buy refilled ones and they
worked pretty well. I'm sure there is a higher failure rate among
refills but this risk is in the sub 1% range and can be minimized by
buying more than one set at a time. Those fill as you wait places that
take the time to test the cartridges also help to keep the risk down.
But you are right, one needs to set their priorites
1. Downtime - OEM or serviced refilling
2. economics - refill or prefills
3. ecocology - refill, prefills, serviced refilling
But I disagree with it being "NOT a good idea" It's a fine idea. There
are those of use who value the economics of printing or doing our
*small* part to actually reduce waste. After all we share a planet,
and every dollar we spend is a vote tward what our posterity will
inherit... blue skies or magenta rivers.
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measekite
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:54 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| Quote: | Noble sentiments, except that most who refill have ruined at least one item
of clothing, used solvents of dubious ecological integrity in an attempt to
remove ink stains off of clothing and hands, used solvents of dubious
ecological integrity in an attempt to clean an intransigent print head, used
more than one sheet of paper while trying to get a test page that shows all
is well..
WOW! HEAR THAT CHURCHIES! A NEW GOSPEL. KEEP GOING |
| Quote: | Add to the above frustration at not being able to get the printer to produce
anything meaningful, and maybe it is not such a good idea..
RIGHT ON |
| Quote: | In the meantime, some industrial companies are still contravening every
ecological law, garbage and sewage is still being dumped into the oceans and
landfill sites while nobody is looking, and the absolute worst is members of
the general public dumping medications into their domestic effluent removal
systems which then infect the entire water system, not only for re-use by
us, but in a way that apparently renders sea life impotent.. way to go..
While I accept that every little step taken is a good one, all is not always
as it seems, and in many cases, one step forward is followed by a couple of
backwards steps..
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measekite
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:55 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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JR wrote:
| Quote: | Bill 2 wrote:
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:XzKdf.26212$6e1.1525@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
I DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS WITH MY HP OR CANON PRINTERS.
OF COURSE I ONLY USE OEM INK. I DO PRINT ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS
WITH EACH PRINTER.
Do you only print uppercase text? Maybe the OP's problem is they are
printing lowercase text, which requires smaller nozzles, so they clog
easier.
ha! you funne.
jr
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HA U DUMEE |
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measekite
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:57 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some but
not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
manufactured non-refillable cartridges.
Most people I know who refill their HPs buy OEM cartridges and fit them
for refilling after they are empty...
NOT TOO BRIGHT |
| Quote: | and keep a spair set of
cartridges when the printhead finally dies. To be honest I never got
into refilling HP tanks...
SO DO NOT CHIME IN |
| Quote: | though I did buy refilled ones and they
worked pretty well. I'm sure there is a higher failure rate among
refills
YEP |
| Quote: | but this risk is in the sub 1% range and can be minimized by
buying more than one set at a time. Those fill as you wait places that
take the time to test the cartridges also help to keep the risk down.
But you are right, one needs to set their priorites
1. Downtime - OEM or serviced refilling
2. economics - refill or prefills
3. ecocology - refill, prefills, serviced refilling
But I disagree with it being "NOT a good idea"
NOT ME |
| Quote: | It's a fine idea. There
are those of use who value the economics of printing or doing our
*small* part to actually reduce waste. After all we share a planet,
and every dollar we spend is a vote tward what our posterity will
inherit... blue skies or magenta rivers.
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measekite
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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ABSOLUTELY
Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| Quote: | Susan
Regardless of what others say, use re-fillable cartridges is NOT a good
idea.. it is undeniably cheaper, but is not reliable, working for some but
not all.. if you want your printer to be usable at all times, buy HP
manufactured non-refillable cartridges..
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measekite
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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Bill 2 wrote:
| Quote: | "measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:XzKdf.26212$6e1.1525@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
I DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS WITH MY HP OR CANON PRINTERS. OF
COURSE I ONLY USE OEM INK. I DO PRINT ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH EACH
PRINTER.
Do you only print uppercase text?
I USE MORE GOOD OEM INK THAT WAY. |
| Quote: | Maybe the OP's problem is they are
printing lowercase text, which requires smaller nozzles, so they clog
easier.
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george
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:19 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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Susan,
You have me confused...at least when I worked at HP, the print heads were
in the ink cartridge (i.e., everytime you replaced the cartridge...with a
NEW
HP cartridge, not a refilled cartridge, you got new print heads). If you've
been
refilling, well...once in awhile, you need to buy a NEW HP cartridge as the
print heads in a cartridge aren't designed to print THAT many pages.
George
"Susan Sharm" <susanshaarm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131861989.689133.299360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | What is the procedure for home repair of Hewlett Packard #14 print
heads?
My CYAN stopped printing (even though the refilled cartridge is full)
and a diagnostic report from the HP OfficeJet D145 all in one printer
says the CYAN print head needs to be replaced.
Since the print head has to be replaced, I may as well attempt a home
repair. But how?
A friend suggested I remove the bad cyan printhead drip a solvent such
as alcohol or acetone or hydrogen peroxide on the top steel grid until
it runs clear - which might unblock the screen in case it's blocked by
teeny tiny honey-I-shrunk-the-kids debris.
He said then to gently swipe the bottom of the print head with the
solvent so as to free up goldish metallic strips on the bottom.
Is there a published procedure for home cleaning & repair of print
heads as a last ditch effort before replacing them altogether?
Susan
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FB
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:27 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| Quote: | Noble sentiments, except that most who refill have ruined at least one item
of clothing, used solvents of dubious ecological integrity in an attempt to
remove ink stains off of clothing and hands, used solvents of dubious
ecological integrity in an attempt to clean an intransigent print head, used
more than one sheet of paper while trying to get a test page that shows all
is well..
Add to the above frustration at not being able to get the printer to produce
anything meaningful, and maybe it is not such a good idea..
In the meantime, some industrial companies are still contravening every
ecological law, garbage and sewage is still being dumped into the oceans and
landfill sites while nobody is looking, and the absolute worst is members of
the general public dumping medications into their domestic effluent removal
systems which then infect the entire water system, not only for re-use by
us, but in a way that apparently renders sea life impotent.. way to go..
While I accept that every little step taken is a good one, all is not always
as it seems, and in many cases, one step forward is followed by a couple of
backwards steps..
What a crock of bullshit! At least you've got our local idiot agreeing |
with you.
Way to go.
Frank |
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measekite
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:18 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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FB wrote:
| Quote: | Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
Noble sentiments, except that most who refill have ruined at least
one item of clothing,
OH YEAH |
| Quote: | used solvents of dubious ecological integrity in an attempt to remove
ink stains off of clothing and hands,
OH YEAH |
| Quote: | used solvents of dubious ecological integrity in an attempt to clean
an intransigent print head, used more than one sheet of paper while
trying to get a test page that shows all is well..
AMEN |
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Add to the above frustration at not being able to get the printer to
produce anything meaningful, and maybe it is not such a good idea..
RIGHTON |
| Quote: |
In the meantime, some industrial companies are still contravening
every ecological law, garbage and sewage is still being dumped into
the oceans and landfill sites while nobody is looking, and the
absolute worst is members of the general public dumping medications
into their domestic effluent removal systems which then infect the
entire water system, not only for re-use by us, but in a way that
apparently renders sea life impotent.. way to go..
While I accept that every little step taken is a good one, all is not
always as it seems, and in many cases, one step forward is followed
by a couple of backwards steps..
What a crock of bullshit! At least you've got our local idiot agreeing
with you.
Way to go.
Frank
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YOU ARE THE LOCAL MORON. WHAT HE SAYS MAKES SENSE. WHAT YOU SAY IS
TOTAL BULLSHIT. DID YOU EVER NOTICE THE FLIES CIRCLEN UR HEAD |
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measekite
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:19 am Post subject:
Re: Home repair of Hewlett Packard color printer print heads |
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george wrote:
| Quote: | Susan,
You have me confused...at least when I worked at HP, the print heads were
in the ink cartridge (i.e., everytime you replaced the cartridge...with a
NEW
HP cartridge, not a refilled cartridge, you got new print heads). If you've
been
refilling, well...once in awhile, you need to buy a NEW HP cartridge as the
print heads in a cartridge aren't designed to print THAT many pages.
George
TINKER TOYS BY TONKA |
| Quote: | "Susan Sharm" <susanshaarm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131861989.689133.299360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
What is the procedure for home repair of Hewlett Packard #14 print
heads?
My CYAN stopped printing (even though the refilled cartridge is full)
and a diagnostic report from the HP OfficeJet D145 all in one printer
says the CYAN print head needs to be replaced.
Since the print head has to be replaced, I may as well attempt a home
repair. But how?
A friend suggested I remove the bad cyan printhead drip a solvent such
as alcohol or acetone or hydrogen peroxide on the top steel grid until
it runs clear - which might unblock the screen in case it's blocked by
teeny tiny honey-I-shrunk-the-kids debris.
He said then to gently swipe the bottom of the print head with the
solvent so as to free up goldish metallic strips on the bottom.
Is there a published procedure for home cleaning & repair of print
heads as a last ditch effort before replacing them altogether?
Susan
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