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geezer
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:47 am Post subject:
Question on Konica/Minolta 1350W Laser Printer |
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How many watts does this little sucker draw anyhow? My ceiling lights
blink.
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Mike Russell
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:54 am Post subject:
Re: Question on Konica/Minolta 1350W Laser Printer |
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"geezer" <wee@willy.com> wrote in message
| Quote: | How many watts does this little sucker draw anyhow? My ceiling lights
blink.
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I wouldn't be surprised at 100 watts or so, at least initially. It will say
on the back plate. LP's use a heat based process, and take a lot of power
to heat up the fusion roller.
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Tony
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:27 am Post subject:
Re: Question on Konica/Minolta 1350W Laser Printer |
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geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | How many watts does this little sucker draw anyhow? My ceiling lights
blink.
Thanks
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15 watts on standby
400 watts average
900 watts peak (when fuser is turned on).
Yes, this may cause your lights to blink especially if you are on 110 volts
supply (approximately 8 amp surge).
BTW this is reasonably typical for a laser of this size.
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geezer
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:51 am Post subject:
Re: Re: Question on Konica/Minolta 1350W Laser Printer |
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Thanks
Should I worry abut it?
Geezer
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:27:39 -0600, Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
How many watts does this little sucker draw anyhow? My ceiling lights
blink.
Thanks
15 watts on standby
400 watts average
900 watts peak (when fuser is turned on).
Yes, this may cause your lights to blink especially if you are on 110 volts
supply (approximately 8 amp surge).
BTW this is reasonably typical for a laser of this size.
Tony |
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Leythos
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:04 am Post subject:
Re: Question on Konica/Minolta 1350W Laser Printer |
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In article <part1of1.1.J4b11qgYzB8AXA@ue.ph>, TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com
says...
| Quote: | geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
How many watts does this little sucker draw anyhow? My ceiling lights
blink.
Thanks
15 watts on standby
400 watts average
900 watts peak (when fuser is turned on).
Yes, this may cause your lights to blink especially if you are on 110 volts
supply (approximately 8 amp surge).
BTW this is reasonably typical for a laser of this size.
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Every appliance in the US should have a sticker on it that tells the
power draw. A Laser printer always draws a LOT of current.
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Tony
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
Re: Question on Konica/Minolta 1350W Laser Printer |
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No, it is called inrush and is a normal phenomenon with appliances that have a
reasonably heavy startup current. Airconditioners are much worse.
If the circuit is overloaded your main fuses or circuit breaker will protect
you but it is unlikely that this will become an issue.
Tony
geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks
Should I worry abut it?
Geezer
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:27:39 -0600, Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com
wrote:
geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
How many watts does this little sucker draw anyhow? My ceiling lights
blink.
Thanks
15 watts on standby
400 watts average
900 watts peak (when fuser is turned on).
Yes, this may cause your lights to blink especially if you are on 110 volts
supply (approximately 8 amp surge).
BTW this is reasonably typical for a laser of this size.
Tony |
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geezer
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject:
Re: Re: Question on Konica/Minolta 1350W Laser Printer |
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Okay - Thanks for replies.
Geezer
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:14:48 -0600, Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | No, it is called inrush and is a normal phenomenon with appliances that have a
reasonably heavy startup current. Airconditioners are much worse.
If the circuit is overloaded your main fuses or circuit breaker will protect
you but it is unlikely that this will become an issue.
Tony
geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
Thanks
Should I worry abut it?
Geezer
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:27:39 -0600, Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com
wrote:
geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
How many watts does this little sucker draw anyhow? My ceiling lights
blink.
Thanks
15 watts on standby
400 watts average
900 watts peak (when fuser is turned on).
Yes, this may cause your lights to blink especially if you are on 110 volts
supply (approximately 8 amp surge).
BTW this is reasonably typical for a laser of this size.
Tony |
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geezer
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Re: Question on Konica/Minolta 1350W Laser Printer |
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:14:48 -0600, Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | No, it is called inrush and is a normal phenomenon with appliances that have a
reasonably heavy startup current. Airconditioners are much worse.
If the circuit is overloaded your main fuses or circuit breaker will protect
you but it is unlikely that this will become an issue.
Tony
geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
Thanks
Should I worry abut it?
Geezer
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:27:39 -0600, Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com
wrote:
geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
How many watts does this little sucker draw anyhow? My ceiling lights
blink.
Thanks
15 watts on standby
400 watts average
900 watts peak (when fuser is turned on).
Yes, this may cause your lights to blink especially if you are on 110 volts
supply (approximately 8 amp surge).
BTW this is reasonably typical for a laser of this size.
Tony
Does it kick into 'standby' (energy-saving mode) on its own? Looks |
like it does.
G |
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geezer
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject:
Having Trouble With My HP 4V Printer |
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I've been working on a newsletter all week, a highly complex issue
with lots of multiple printed pages and paste-on photos. All through
the many test prints to adjust layout to close tolerances the big HP4
laser printer performed flawlessly. Now that I'm printing camera-ready
copy and photos on pricey high-gloss, the damned thing has gotten
cranky.
Actually, it has been tolerably cranky for quite some time, requiring
a reboot to print. Suddenly re booting doesn't help.
It displays three status messages: Ready (It always works), Out of
Paper (It isn't and it generally prints), and Offline (Forget about
printing anything). Normally I can just switch to Diana's Brother
laser. But it prints too dark for reproduction purposes and probably
would mess up typeface spacing.
This morning I'm seeing the Out of Paper message. I discovered that if
I leave the room it mocks me by printing in my absence. I'm only half
kidding. I started a bit after 7 this morning and just got the last
page printed at 10:30. And now it seems to want to work. If that isn't
deliberate mocking, I don't know what is.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Geezer |
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CSM1
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject:
Re: Having Trouble With My HP 4V Printer |
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"geezer" <wee@willy.com> wrote in message
news:ush9n15rgqkismu988l20007c7mu7aog9u@4ax.com...
| Quote: | I've been working on a newsletter all week, a highly complex issue
with lots of multiple printed pages and paste-on photos. All through
the many test prints to adjust layout to close tolerances the big HP4
laser printer performed flawlessly. Now that I'm printing camera-ready
copy and photos on pricey high-gloss, the damned thing has gotten
cranky.
Actually, it has been tolerably cranky for quite some time, requiring
a reboot to print. Suddenly re booting doesn't help.
It displays three status messages: Ready (It always works), Out of
Paper (It isn't and it generally prints), and Offline (Forget about
printing anything). Normally I can just switch to Diana's Brother
laser. But it prints too dark for reproduction purposes and probably
would mess up typeface spacing.
This morning I'm seeing the Out of Paper message. I discovered that if
I leave the room it mocks me by printing in my absence. I'm only half
kidding. I started a bit after 7 this morning and just got the last
page printed at 10:30. And now it seems to want to work. If that isn't
deliberate mocking, I don't know what is.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Geezer
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Maybe you are exceeding the duty cycle limits of the printer.
Many laser printers have a duty cycle of so much time printing and so much
time cooling between print jobs.
A lot of heat and power is generated in use.
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CSM1
http://www.carlmcmillan.com
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Tony
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:53 am Post subject:
Re: Having Trouble With My HP 4V Printer |
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geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I've been working on a newsletter all week, a highly complex issue
with lots of multiple printed pages and paste-on photos. All through
the many test prints to adjust layout to close tolerances the big HP4
laser printer performed flawlessly. Now that I'm printing camera-ready
copy and photos on pricey high-gloss, the damned thing has gotten
cranky.
Actually, it has been tolerably cranky for quite some time, requiring
a reboot to print. Suddenly re booting doesn't help.
It displays three status messages: Ready (It always works), Out of
Paper (It isn't and it generally prints), and Offline (Forget about
printing anything). Normally I can just switch to Diana's Brother
laser. But it prints too dark for reproduction purposes and probably
would mess up typeface spacing.
This morning I'm seeing the Out of Paper message. I discovered that if
I leave the room it mocks me by printing in my absence. I'm only half
kidding. I started a bit after 7 this morning and just got the last
page printed at 10:30. And now it seems to want to work. If that isn't
deliberate mocking, I don't know what is.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Geezer
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Very strange, I have worked on lots of these and never seen that. Can you print
out the error log?
Error log instructions....
1. Power printer off
2. Press and hold Online, Form feed and Enter keys while turning printer on.
Keep the buttons pressed until all the lights are on and the display is blank.
Release the keys.
3. Press Form feed and then press enter. You should see Service Mode appear
briefly, then the printer will do a self test and finish warming up and you
should see Service Mode appear again.
4. Press Menu
5. Press Item until you see ERR LOG diplayed and press Enter. This should print
the last 10 errors together with the page count. If you want to print all
errors then you should select PRT ERR LOG instead of ERR LOG.
6. Press Online to exit service mode.
What errors do you see?
Tony |
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George E. Cawthon
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:55 am Post subject:
Re: Having Trouble With My HP 4V Printer |
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geezer wrote:
| Quote: | I've been working on a newsletter all week, a highly complex issue
with lots of multiple printed pages and paste-on photos. All through
the many test prints to adjust layout to close tolerances the big HP4
laser printer performed flawlessly. Now that I'm printing camera-ready
copy and photos on pricey high-gloss, the damned thing has gotten
cranky.
Actually, it has been tolerably cranky for quite some time, requiring
a reboot to print. Suddenly re booting doesn't help.
It displays three status messages: Ready (It always works), Out of
Paper (It isn't and it generally prints), and Offline (Forget about
printing anything). Normally I can just switch to Diana's Brother
laser. But it prints too dark for reproduction purposes and probably
would mess up typeface spacing.
This morning I'm seeing the Out of Paper message. I discovered that if
I leave the room it mocks me by printing in my absence. I'm only half
kidding. I started a bit after 7 this morning and just got the last
page printed at 10:30. And now it seems to want to work. If that isn't
deliberate mocking, I don't know what is.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Geezer
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If you haven't already, the first thing to do is
to turn the printer off with the on/off switch on
the printer then pull the plug. That will erase
any memory errors that might have occurred. If
you don't pull the plug, the printer is never
really off so the memory can't be erased. You
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Tony
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:33 am Post subject:
Re: Having Trouble With My HP 4V Printer |
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"George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
| Quote: | geezer wrote:
I've been working on a newsletter all week, a highly complex issue
with lots of multiple printed pages and paste-on photos. All through
the many test prints to adjust layout to close tolerances the big HP4
laser printer performed flawlessly. Now that I'm printing camera-ready
copy and photos on pricey high-gloss, the damned thing has gotten
cranky.
Actually, it has been tolerably cranky for quite some time, requiring
a reboot to print. Suddenly re booting doesn't help.
It displays three status messages: Ready (It always works), Out of
Paper (It isn't and it generally prints), and Offline (Forget about
printing anything). Normally I can just switch to Diana's Brother
laser. But it prints too dark for reproduction purposes and probably
would mess up typeface spacing.
This morning I'm seeing the Out of Paper message. I discovered that if
I leave the room it mocks me by printing in my absence. I'm only half
kidding. I started a bit after 7 this morning and just got the last
page printed at 10:30. And now it seems to want to work. If that isn't
deliberate mocking, I don't know what is.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Geezer
If you haven't already, the first thing to do is
to turn the printer off with the on/off switch on
the printer then pull the plug. That will erase
any memory errors that might have occurred. If
you don't pull the plug, the printer is never
really off so the memory can't be erased. You
might want to try the same thing with your computer.
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George
On this printer the main power switch removes all power to the printer.
The error list in NVRAM retains all errors until it either fills up or is
reset in Service Mode.
This is true for most HP Laser printers of this vintage.
Tony |
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geezer
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject:
Re: Re: Having Trouble With My HP 4V Printer |
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Tony - Actually this is not my problem, but that of a good friend whom
I am trying to help.
At this point it might be more helpful to him if he had direct contact
with you. Could you continue all this with him at
jlbonner@verizon.net? (unless you think a newsgroups dialog would
help others). Whatever, Your choice. I'll help where I can.
I tried to answer your questions below.
Geezer
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:53:21 -0600, Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
I've been working on a newsletter all week, a highly complex issue
with lots of multiple printed pages and paste-on photos. All through
the many test prints to adjust layout to close tolerances the big HP4
laser printer performed flawlessly. Now that I'm printing camera-ready
copy and photos on pricey high-gloss, the damned thing has gotten
cranky.
Actually, it has been tolerably cranky for quite some time, requiring
a reboot to print. Suddenly re booting doesn't help.
It displays three status messages: Ready (It always works), Out of
Paper (It isn't and it generally prints), and Offline (Forget about
printing anything). Normally I can just switch to Diana's Brother
laser. But it prints too dark for reproduction purposes and probably
would mess up typeface spacing.
This morning I'm seeing the Out of Paper message. I discovered that if
I leave the room it mocks me by printing in my absence. I'm only half
kidding. I started a bit after 7 this morning and just got the last
page printed at 10:30. And now it seems to want to work. If that isn't
deliberate mocking, I don't know what is.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Geezer
Very strange, I have worked on lots of these and never seen that. Can you print
out the error log?
Error log instructions....
1. Power printer off
2. Press and hold Online, Form feed and Enter keys while turning printer on.
Keep the buttons pressed until all the lights are on and the display is blank.
Release the keys.
3. Press Form feed and then press enter. You should see Service Mode appear
briefly, then the printer will do a self test and finish warming up and you
should see Service Mode appear again.
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Msg says "PC TRAY EMPTY (it isn't)
| Quote: | 4. Press Menu
5. Press Item until you see ERR LOG diplayed and press Enter. This should print
the last 10 errors together with the page count.
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It didn't. Msg says "01 130001 044012
| Quote: | If you want to print all
errors then you should select PRT ERR LOG instead of ERR LOG.
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This worked. Lists 5 incidents, all error 13, sub error 0001
| Quote: | 6. Press Online to exit service mode.
What errors do you see?
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Msg says "PC TRAY EMPTY." It isn't.
I put paper in bottom drawer (which I don't use; I find open paper
feeder on top handier for frequent paper changing) msg changed to
"SERVICE MODE."
I don't have a manual for the HP4V. But I do have one for a QMS 1660e
if this would be helpful. They appear to have common ancestry.
>Tony |
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geezer
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject:
Re: Re: Re: Having Trouble With My HP 4V Printer |
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My friend says he turns this printer on and off from a switch console,
which cuts the current as totally as unplugging it. He considers this
to be a more effective strategy than rebooting the computer. His
recollection is that it takes about five minutes for the printer's
memory to drain.
He wonders if the printer is designed to always have power to the
memory perhaps his power console arrangement contributes to the
problems. He knows to turn off inkjets by the printer switch because
they perform a post shutdown head-cleaning process, but isn't aware of
any problem with total shutdown of laser printers.
???
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:48:13 GMT, geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Tony - Actually this is not my problem, but that of a good friend whom
I am trying to help.
At this point it might be more helpful to him if he had direct contact
with you. Could you continue all this with him at
jlbonner@verizon.net? (unless you think a newsgroups dialog would
help others). Whatever, Your choice. I'll help where I can.
I tried to answer your questions below.
Geezer
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:53:21 -0600, Tony <TonytheTigurrrrr@aim.com
wrote:
geezer <wee@willy.com> wrote:
I've been working on a newsletter all week, a highly complex issue
with lots of multiple printed pages and paste-on photos. All through
the many test prints to adjust layout to close tolerances the big HP4
laser printer performed flawlessly. Now that I'm printing camera-ready
copy and photos on pricey high-gloss, the damned thing has gotten
cranky.
Actually, it has been tolerably cranky for quite some time, requiring
a reboot to print. Suddenly re booting doesn't help.
It displays three status messages: Ready (It always works), Out of
Paper (It isn't and it generally prints), and Offline (Forget about
printing anything). Normally I can just switch to Diana's Brother
laser. But it prints too dark for reproduction purposes and probably
would mess up typeface spacing.
This morning I'm seeing the Out of Paper message. I discovered that if
I leave the room it mocks me by printing in my absence. I'm only half
kidding. I started a bit after 7 this morning and just got the last
page printed at 10:30. And now it seems to want to work. If that isn't
deliberate mocking, I don't know what is.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Geezer
Very strange, I have worked on lots of these and never seen that. Can you print
out the error log?
Error log instructions....
1. Power printer off
2. Press and hold Online, Form feed and Enter keys while turning printer on.
Keep the buttons pressed until all the lights are on and the display is blank.
Release the keys.
3. Press Form feed and then press enter. You should see Service Mode appear
briefly, then the printer will do a self test and finish warming up and you
should see Service Mode appear again.
Msg says "PC TRAY EMPTY (it isn't)
4. Press Menu
5. Press Item until you see ERR LOG diplayed and press Enter. This should print
the last 10 errors together with the page count.
It didn't. Msg says "01 130001 044012
If you want to print all
errors then you should select PRT ERR LOG instead of ERR LOG.
This worked. Lists 5 incidents, all error 13, sub error 0001
6. Press Online to exit service mode.
What errors do you see?
Msg says "PC TRAY EMPTY." It isn't.
I put paper in bottom drawer (which I don't use; I find open paper
feeder on top handier for frequent paper changing) msg changed to
"SERVICE MODE."
I don't have a manual for the HP4V. But I do have one for a QMS 1660e
if this would be helpful. They appear to have common ancestry.
Tony |
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