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Dan O
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: adding parallel IDE slave with SATA primary Reply with quote

Hello,

I recently purchased a new Compaq SR1616NX. It has a Serial ATA HD in it.
I would like to put my old parallel EIDE drive in as a second HD to recover
some needed files then wipe the 2nd drive clean to use as a back-up device.
The Compaq has open bays and the MB has 2 IDE connectors. IDE2 has the
optical drive and IDE1 is vacant.

I am thinking that I can set the parallel drive to slave with jumpers,
connect it to IDE1, verify that the SATA is the boot drive in the BIOS and
be good to go.

Will this work?
Which connector on the ribbon cable should I use.
Any other pitfalls I should be aware of?

Thanks,
Dan
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V Green
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: CPU Fan Speed in Red Reply with quote

Fan's failing. Common problem with
crappy sleeve-bearing fans supplied as
original equipment.


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Quote:
I have an Asus P5S800VM motherboard with Intel processor.
It has just recently started booting to a warning that requires "F1" to
continue.
The warning is "CPU Fan Error! Press F1 to resume".
When I look in the BIOS the fan speed is shown in RED at around 1650 RPM.
I am thinking this is too low.
How can this be fixed?
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Machine Messiah
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Fun with Compaq Presario 6000 found in trash. Reply with quote

I hauled a Compaq Presario 6000 out of a dumpster a couple of weeks ago.
Previous owner, in their haste or aggravation, neglegted to unscrew the
vga connection, they simply broke it off. Half the pins were still on
the monitor cord, the rest in the mother board. Damn, I thought I got
impatient with those things.
Open the case:
No agp slot.
250 watt PSU
1 512 mb stick of ram.
Onboard Audio
Onboard Ethernet
Plug the machine in, turn it on and the mobo posts w/o problem.

I ordered a Saphire Radeon 64 MB pci card and 1 256mb stick pc2100 ram.
Stick that in the machine, turn it on. Press F2 and change the video
from "onboard" to "PCI", after that Windows Xp starts in safe mode.
Previous owner failed to delete any of his old files.
Machine has a 120 gig hd and a 2.5 gig P4 Northwood, 400 FSB.
It's amazing how may pc's we find in the trash where I work, that the
only thing wrong is a Windows problem. People don't seem to realize the
OS is separate from the hardware. Got my self a nice little machine for
a $60 investment.
1 question:
I'd like to replace the power supply and add a second hd. Is it hard to
find a PSU that will fit in this case? I have 2 now that won't work, the
screws don't line up.


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Jenny Talyor
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:54 am    Post subject: Re: CPU Fan Speed in Red Reply with quote

"Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)" <mikehalll@mvps.org> wrote in
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Clean the fan and heatsink, and/or replace or get replaced the
fan and heatsink..


....a squirt of WD40 lubricant on the fan spindle can help as well.
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pantheon
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:56 am    Post subject: Re: Esperienza molto negativa con Elektrovaltenesi Reply with quote

Ho notato che ci sono ancora un paio di persone sul forum di E-bay.
Qualcuno può contattare pure loro ed informare che esiste anche questo
forum se vogliono comunicare con noi? Io non posso perchè per
inserirsi in quel forum bisogna avere un numero minimo di crediti che
io non posseggo. Quindi, se qualcuno può farlo .................
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DevilsPGD
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

In message <4375efee.71575953@news-server.houston.rr.com> spam@uce.gov
(Bob) wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:18:25 -0700, DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net
wrote:

this company had a hand in inventing the CDs.

That's news to me.

No offense, but what you don't know could fill a warehouse.

FOAD, prick.

At first I had assumed your issue was simply ignorance rather then
stupidity. Thanks for clarifying.

You don't handle your stupidity being publicly aired very well, do you?

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standing in a garage makes you a car.
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DevilsPGD
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

In message <3jfcn1t7rmom1ncu7ofq4p81fru81r4me5@4ax.com> Aratzio
<a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:54:50 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> got double
secret probation because:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:41:44 -0800, Aratzio
a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:


Does Sony actually design & build the burners? Or is it just some
chinese plant rebadging their product with the sony name?

So far they've been tacking their name onto other major
brand drives like Liteon's. They have no design, build or
firmware differences beyond the manufacturer ID string and
the faceplate with the Sony name on it.

Which then brings up this:
Unlikely a completly seperate consumer products hardware division of
Sony will be having much to do with DRM, since that would affect that
division's financial health. People need to quit extrapolating that
the Sony that makes CDs and the Sony that sells CD burners are related
by anything other than a common top level management. This is driven
solely by the Sony music division and it would be suicide for the
Consumer Products (probably is for music, we shall see).

The CD side has already successfully crippled Sony's consumer audio
devices by preventing hardware-side MP3 support.

What makes you think that the music side wouldn't be able to get upper
management to shoot the computer accessory department in the foot too?

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Going to church doesn't make you a christian any more than
standing in a garage makes you a car.
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DevilsPGD
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

In message <nowhere-9DE543.20362711112005@news.central.cox.net>
Travelinman <nowhere@nospam.net> wrote:

Quote:
In article <qpban1lop1i8h63c0khaj42n40vf3ndqp7@4ax.com>,
DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote:

In message <Nowhere-4992F8.16052511112005@news1.west.earthlink.net
TravelinMan <Nowhere@spamfree.com> wrote:

In article <opv9n1hln082mrom83caqjfl2ak5rru6mm@4ax.com>,
DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote:

In message <0m69n1llhrievvce56mj0gpev6l7rcnr08@4ax.com> Alan S
AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:

Intentionally or not, the software also
seems to damage a computer's ability to "rip" clean copies of MP3s
from non-copy protected CDs, the security company said.

If it prevents me from manipulating music for which I own the copyright,
that sounds like anti competitive behaviour since it is willfully
interfering with my ability to compete with Sony.


You might want to start out by getting your facts right.

When you buy a CD, you don't own the copyright. You get a license to use
the music, not ownership.

You misunderstand. I mean for music for which *I* own the copyright,
not just CDs which I have purchased.

If I pull out a microphone and start singing original lyrics and banging
my head against a piano while I do it, burn it to CD, I own the physical
CD, and I own the copyright for the recorded material,

If Sony's software interferes with my ability to manipulate content for
which I really am the legal copyright holder, then it's likely violating
a number of laws.

How would Sony's software interfere with that?

Sony's software is adding jitter (or some interference -- I've read it's
jitter) when you attempt to rip an audio CD digitally.

If I recorded my singing at a studio, then got home and tried to rip it,
I might be annoyed if my audio wouldn't come through cleanly.

If I tried it on a couple local PCs (all with Sony's malware) and it
sounded bad on both, I'd probably go rerecord the tracks, which would
result in additional studio fees plus my lost time.

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Going to church doesn't make you a christian any more than
standing in a garage makes you a car.
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DevilsPGD
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

In message <in6cn116i73pgagcf9b58nkr2nmqve95u0@4ax.com> Aratzio
<a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:49:17 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> got
double secret probation because:

info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com (Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com))
wrote:
7 wrote:

Just don't buy their products. I went out bought LG a few
days ago, and not a $ony DVD writer. I wasn't prepared
to take risks with $ony in case put something stupid in their
firmware and didn't reveal it.

I bought my Sony DVD burner DRU-510A about a year ago.

Reminds me, what's to stop them from including malware in their
drivers or firmware? If they are going to lengths to install rootkits
from audio CDs and maybe even filter and intoduce artifacts to audio
data, I could also expect that their DVD/CD burners may mess up with
audio streams and such in the name of fighting piracy.

Does Sony actually design & build the burners? Or is it just some
chinese plant rebadging their product with the sony name?

Does that matter? -- Sony didn't design this rootkit in house either.

--
Going to church doesn't make you a christian any more than
standing in a garage makes you a car.
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Peter Hayes
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:54:50 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> got double
secret probation because:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:41:44 -0800, Aratzio
a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:


Does Sony actually design & build the burners? Or is it just some
chinese plant rebadging their product with the sony name?

So far they've been tacking their name onto other major
brand drives like Liteon's. They have no design, build or
firmware differences beyond the manufacturer ID string and
the faceplate with the Sony name on it.

Which then brings up this:
Unlikely a completly seperate consumer products hardware division of
Sony will be having much to do with DRM, since that would affect that
division's financial health. People need to quit extrapolating that
the Sony that makes CDs and the Sony that sells CD burners are related
by anything other than a common top level management. This is driven
solely by the Sony music division and it would be suicide for the
Consumer Products (probably is for music, we shall see).

What possible justification have you got for such a statement?

No divisional Director would risk the company brand on such a scam,
hence it's very likely this DRM decision would have been taken at the
very highest level. Therefore there's no reason to believe the firmware
in Sony badged CD players and burners won't contain specific code to
address the DRM problem either.

--

Peter
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Aratzio
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 03:17:28 -0700, DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net>
got double secret probation because:

Quote:
In message <3jfcn1t7rmom1ncu7ofq4p81fru81r4me5@4ax.com> Aratzio
a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:54:50 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> got double
secret probation because:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:41:44 -0800, Aratzio
a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:


Does Sony actually design & build the burners? Or is it just some
chinese plant rebadging their product with the sony name?

So far they've been tacking their name onto other major
brand drives like Liteon's. They have no design, build or
firmware differences beyond the manufacturer ID string and
the faceplate with the Sony name on it.

Which then brings up this:
Unlikely a completly seperate consumer products hardware division of
Sony will be having much to do with DRM, since that would affect that
division's financial health. People need to quit extrapolating that
the Sony that makes CDs and the Sony that sells CD burners are related
by anything other than a common top level management. This is driven
solely by the Sony music division and it would be suicide for the
Consumer Products (probably is for music, we shall see).

The CD side has already successfully crippled Sony's consumer audio
devices by preventing hardware-side MP3 support.

QUE?
Sony DVD & CD players play MP3. Whether it is by hardware or software
there is, to the general consumer, no visible difference.

Quote:

What makes you think that the music side wouldn't be able to get upper
management to shoot the computer accessory department in the foot too?

Most companies outsource the low end consumer products to contract
manufacturers. They do not actually design the hardware or the
firmware. I am sure at additional cost some modification to the
firmware could be added. But the CM would charge, be assured. Not
something you want when margins on low end devices are so slim.

--

Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker - May, 2005

Hammer of Thor - July, 2005

David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus) on 10-22-2005
Message-Id: <slrndlk3ae.fc2.dformosa@dformosa.zeta.org.au>
"But it is not isolated AUK has a massive impact the rest of usenet."

http://www.tweaknet.info/aratzio.html
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kony
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:09:02 +0000,
not_in_use@btinternet.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:


Quote:
No divisional Director would risk the company brand on such a scam,
hence it's very likely this DRM decision would have been taken at the
very highest level. Therefore there's no reason to believe the firmware
in Sony badged CD players and burners won't contain specific code to
address the DRM problem either.


Currently there is reason to believe the Sony badged players
won't have "specific code", because so far, Sony has not
written any firmware. The ID string change that is made
could be made by anyone- for example you could make your
LIteon drive read that it was from Taco Bell instead of Sony
as it's only a text string replacement, not a true firmware
rewrite.

That does not preclude future firmware additions though, but
it would seem most likely they will continue with the DRM
software on the media until their hardware supplies
implement such features product-wide, on non-Sony as well as
Sony rebranded players.

Sony has also historically included different burning
software, instead of Nero there was another title that
escapes me at the moment. If the newer software prevents
burning DRM'd context and Windows (vista) does as well, that
is one hole plugged but does nothing about their greatest
concern, the MP3 P2P sharing.
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Aratzio
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 03:17:28 -0700, DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net>
got double secret probation because:

Quote:
In message <in6cn116i73pgagcf9b58nkr2nmqve95u0@4ax.com> Aratzio
a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:49:17 GMT, Alan S <AlanS222@yahoo.com> got
double secret probation because:

info_at_cabling-design_dot_com@foo.com (Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com))
wrote:
7 wrote:

Just don't buy their products. I went out bought LG a few
days ago, and not a $ony DVD writer. I wasn't prepared
to take risks with $ony in case put something stupid in their
firmware and didn't reveal it.

I bought my Sony DVD burner DRU-510A about a year ago.

Reminds me, what's to stop them from including malware in their
drivers or firmware? If they are going to lengths to install rootkits
from audio CDs and maybe even filter and intoduce artifacts to audio
data, I could also expect that their DVD/CD burners may mess up with
audio streams and such in the name of fighting piracy.

Does Sony actually design & build the burners? Or is it just some
chinese plant rebadging their product with the sony name?

Does that matter? -- Sony didn't design this rootkit in house either.

Yes.
Off the shelf rebadging is a process where very minimal, easy to make
modifcations are done to a product. Sony tasks the Contract MFG with a
set of modificaions. Each modification is then priced by the CM and
added to the unit price. The margins on burners is so small that the
only modifications you see in the product are the firmware ID string,
faceplate, packaging and documentation. Often the documentation and
packaging are handled by the OEM.

Although I have seen bare product of the consmer nature that the OEM
was doing the firmware & badging too. Rare but does occur.

The software was a specific design for a specific purpose.

--

Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker - May, 2005

Hammer of Thor - July, 2005

David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus) on 10-22-2005
Message-Id: <slrndlk3ae.fc2.dformosa@dformosa.zeta.org.au>
"But it is not isolated AUK has a massive impact the rest of usenet."

http://www.tweaknet.info/aratzio.html
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Bob
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:08:46 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

Quote:
for example you could make your
LIteon drive read that it was from Taco Bell instead of Sony

Then it would work properly.

Sony may also remove Riplock.


--

BOYCOTT SONY!

SONY IS TRYING TO TAKE OVER YOUR COMPUTER!

HOMELAND SECURITY TOLD SONY TO CEASE AND DESIST!

YOU DO THE SAME - BOYCOTT SONY!
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Kleuskes & Moos
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote

Bob schreef:

Quote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:08:46 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

for example you could make your
LIteon drive read that it was from Taco Bell instead of Sony

Then it would work properly.

Sony may also remove Riplock.


--

BOYCOTT SONY!

SONY IS TRYING TO TAKE OVER YOUR COMPUTER!

HOMELAND SECURITY TOLD SONY TO CEASE AND DESIST!

YOU DO THE SAME - BOYCOTT SONY!

Keep your pants on. The fact that thay made s toopid mistake has
allready sunk in.
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