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Peter Hayes
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
Onideus Mad Cooter <caintard@sogetthis.com> wrote:

Quote:
Sony just loves everyone $sys$anally. They are the greatest company
ever when it comes to technology $sys$that $sys$sucks. Everyone is
gonna love $sys$to $sys$hate Sony, and they will $sys$not buy any Sony
product that they see. It's because Sony loves $sys$to $sys$fuck
$sys$with their customers.

I don't need DRM to hate Sony.

My only VHS to fail within the warranty period was a Sony, an expensive
Sony with s-vhs, editing, etc. Any power glitch would corrupt the flash
memory where its settings were stored so it'd forget its channels, etc.

After it was out of warranty I found the setup procedure on the web. One
day it forgot the channel I'd set it to record in my absence. I took
great pleasure in throwing it at high speed into the skip.

Sony? - Never ever again, even before this latest sneaky trick of
theirs.

--

Peter
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TravelinMan
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
In article
<teadams$2$0$0$3-5EE906.09021711112005@news1.east.earthlink.net>,
Tim Adams <teadams$2$0$0$3@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:
In article <437489e6.66891734@news-server.houston.rr.com>, spam@uce.gov (Bob)
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:57:47 GMT, 7
website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:

Just don't buy their products. I went out bought LG a few
days ago, and not a $ony DVD writer. I wasn't prepared
to take risks with $ony in case put something stupid in their
firmware and didn't reveal it.

They won't even support their products. They tell you to take your
problems to the OEM. What a farce Sony is.

What surprises me is that Apple gets a class action lawsuit when a couple of
people feel their iPods scratch to easily but Sony can install root kits onto
their computers - which have been shown to cause crashes and open their
system
to other malware as well - and nobody even mentions a word about suing them.

Actually, there is at least one suit underway. I think the first one has
already been filed in California.
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Aratzio
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:18 GMT, Tim Adams
<teadams$2$0$0$3@earthlink.net> transparently proposed:

Quote:
In article <437489e6.66891734@news-server.houston.rr.com>, spam@uce.gov (Bob)
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:57:47 GMT, 7
website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:

Just don't buy their products. I went out bought LG a few
days ago, and not a $ony DVD writer. I wasn't prepared
to take risks with $ony in case put something stupid in their
firmware and didn't reveal it.

They won't even support their products. They tell you to take your
problems to the OEM. What a farce Sony is.

What surprises me is that Apple gets a class action lawsuit when a couple of
people feel their iPods scratch to easily but Sony can install root kits onto
their computers - which have been shown to cause crashes and open their system
to other malware as well - and nobody even mentions a word about suing them.

Google is you friend.

--

Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker - May, 2005

Hammer of Thor - July, 2005

David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus) on 10-22-2005
Message-Id: <slrndlk3ae.fc2.dformosa@dformosa.zeta.org.au>

"But it is not isolated AUK has a massive impact the rest of usenet."

http://www.tweaknet.info/aratzio.html
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Bob
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:21:51 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Google is you friend.

So is Websters Online.

--

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!"
--Ben Franklin
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Aratzio
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:03:35 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) transparently
proposed:

Quote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:21:51 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com
wrote:

Google is you friend.

So is Websters Online.

So point out which word was spelled incorrectly, typo lamer?

--

Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker - May, 2005

Hammer of Thor - July, 2005

David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus) on 10-22-2005
Message-Id: <slrndlk3ae.fc2.dformosa@dformosa.zeta.org.au>

"But it is not isolated AUK has a massive impact the rest of usenet."

http://www.tweaknet.info/aratzio.html
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ThePsyko
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
On 11 Nov 2005 in alt.2600, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> made their
contribution to mankind by stating in
news:dkh9n1houst9uk6pk2lk3am4qla8q07jr4@4ax.com:

Quote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:03:35 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) transparently
proposed:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:21:51 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com
wrote:

Google is you friend.

So is Websters Online.

So point out which word was spelled incorrectly, typo lamer?


Not only that but he can't even quote correctly. He's adding his own
emphasis and attibuting it to the original speaker.

--
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7
http://prozac.iscool.net
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Rick
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:18 +0000, Tim Adams wrote:

Quote:
In article <437489e6.66891734@news-server.houston.rr.com>, spam@uce.gov (Bob)
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:57:47 GMT, 7
website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:

Just don't buy their products. I went out bought LG a few
days ago, and not a $ony DVD writer. I wasn't prepared
to take risks with $ony in case put something stupid in their
firmware and didn't reveal it.

They won't even support their products. They tell you to take your
problems to the OEM. What a farce Sony is.

What surprises me is that Apple gets a class action lawsuit when a couple of
people feel their iPods scratch to easily but Sony can install root kits onto
their computers - which have been shown to cause crashes and open their system
to other malware as well - and nobody even mentions a word about suing them.

<http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/>

"A class-action lawsuit has been filed on behalf of California consumers
who may have been harmed by anti-piracy software installed by some Sony
music CDs. A second, nationwide class-action lawsuit is expected to be
filed against Sony in a New York court on Wednesday seeking relief for all
U.S. consumers who have purchased any of the 20 music CDs in question.

--
Rick
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Bob
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:28:03 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Google is you friend.

So is Websters Online.

So point out which word was spelled incorrectly, typo lamer?

Find it yourself, fuckwit.


--

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!"
--Ben Franklin
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Bob
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:35:17 GMT, Rick <none@nomail.com> wrote:

Quote:
"A class-action lawsuit has been filed on behalf of California consumers
who may have been harmed by anti-piracy software installed by some Sony
music CDs. A second, nationwide class-action lawsuit is expected to be
filed against Sony in a New York court on Wednesday seeking relief for all
U.S. consumers who have purchased any of the 20 music CDs in question.

I hope the bottomfeeders clean Sony's clock a good one.

I can't think of a bunch of pricks who deserve it more.


--

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!"
--Ben Franklin
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Aratzio
Guest
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:51:06 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) transparently
proposed:

Quote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:28:03 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com
wrote:

Google is you friend.

So is Websters Online.

So point out which word was spelled incorrectly, typo lamer?

Find it yourself, fuckwit.

I'll be taking that as you were unable.

Do you always froth on command or are you just frothing because I am
such a swell guy and you did not wish to disappoint me?

--

Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker - May, 2005

Hammer of Thor - July, 2005

David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus) on 10-22-2005
Message-Id: <slrndlk3ae.fc2.dformosa@dformosa.zeta.org.au>

"But it is not isolated AUK has a massive impact the rest of usenet."

http://www.tweaknet.info/aratzio.html
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The Ghost In The Machine
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Bob
<spam@uce.gov>
wrote
on Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:51:06 GMT
<4374d9ce.376265@news-server.houston.rr.com>:
Quote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:28:03 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com
wrote:

Google is you friend.

So is Websters Online.

So point out which word was spelled incorrectly, typo lamer?

Find it yourself, fuckwit.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fuckwit

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for fuckwit?

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It's still legal to go .sigless.
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Nigel Feltham
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
BearItAll wrote:

Quote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:01:44 -0800, Onideus Mad Cooter wrote:

Sony just loves everyone $sys$anally. They are the greatest company
ever when it comes to technology $sys$that $sys$sucks. Everyone is
gonna love $sys$to $sys$hate Sony, and they will $sys$not buy any Sony
product that they see. It's because Sony loves $sys$to $sys$fuck
$sys$with their customers.

Oh and what a surprise, the virus writers have already made use of Sony's
new Gateway technology. Did they really think they could write a way to
load code secretly onto a computer and the virus writers wouldn't of
spotted it.

The worse thing is that SONY still claim there's nothing wrong with what
they did and that their software is completely safe - despite there already
being 3 Trojans that use it to hide and anyone who accidentally installs it
on a Beta of Vista (or whatever it's called this week) gets an unbootable
PC.

I guess the latest music on SONY is so bad no-one will want to play it in
6-12 months then - I still regularly play LP's that are up to 50 years old
so I presume SONY don't expect anyone to do this with current releases if
their current CD's instantly trash any future Windows versions?

SONY must be made to not only pay compensation but be forced to do a
worldwide product recall on affected CD's as these things are a timebomb
waiting to go off if anyone finds them in their collection and attempts to
play them in a few years time.

I don't know about US law but here in the UK we have consumer protection
laws where the seller is responsible for any damage caused by faulty goods
(then the seller has to go to their supplier to repay damages, supplier has
to get repaid by manufacturer) so Music stores could get sued for selling
these faulty CD's as well unless they've got clear warning notices in the
store.
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Tim Adams
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:39 am    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
In article <pan.2005.11.11.17.35.15.424338@nomail.com>, Rick <none@nomail.com>
wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:02:18 +0000, Tim Adams wrote:

In article <437489e6.66891734@news-server.houston.rr.com>, spam@uce.gov
(Bob)
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:57:47 GMT, 7
website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:

Just don't buy their products. I went out bought LG a few
days ago, and not a $ony DVD writer. I wasn't prepared
to take risks with $ony in case put something stupid in their
firmware and didn't reveal it.

They won't even support their products. They tell you to take your
problems to the OEM. What a farce Sony is.

What surprises me is that Apple gets a class action lawsuit when a couple
of
people feel their iPods scratch to easily but Sony can install root kits
onto
their computers - which have been shown to cause crashes and open their
system
to other malware as well - and nobody even mentions a word about suing
them.

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/

"A class-action lawsuit has been filed on behalf of California consumers
who may have been harmed by anti-piracy software installed by some Sony
music CDs. A second, nationwide class-action lawsuit is expected to be
filed against Sony in a New York court on Wednesday seeking relief for all
U.S. consumers who have purchased any of the 20 music CDs in question.

Glad to see that this has happened. Just wish it got a lot more press.

--
reguarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm


Tim
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DevilsPGD
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:09 am    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
In message <0m69n1llhrievvce56mj0gpev6l7rcnr08@4ax.com> Alan S
<AlanS222@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
Intentionally or not, the software also
seems to damage a computer's ability to "rip" clean copies of MP3s
from non-copy protected CDs, the security company said.

If it prevents me from manipulating music for which I own the copyright,
that sounds like anti competitive behaviour since it is willfully
interfering with my ability to compete with Sony.

If true, this potentially raises things to a whole new level.

--
"These, and other cliches will be available to you all for one more
day of training, with me"
-- Jack O'Neill
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Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:17 am    Post subject: Re: Please don't hate SONY for their one mistake with DRM pr Reply with quote
7 wrote:

Quote:
Just don't buy their products. I went out bought LG a few
days ago, and not a $ony DVD writer. I wasn't prepared
to take risks with $ony in case put something stupid in their
firmware and didn't reveal it.

I bought my Sony DVD burner DRU-510A about a year ago. It died a week
later, sent it back, got a replacement in three weeks. No apology,
nothing. This was and to date IS the only burner or a CD-ROM that died on
me since I have been building my PCs starting in 1990. Heck, this company
had a hand in inventing the CDs. Why messing things up now with this
software?

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