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Larry B
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:25 am Post subject: Compression for cdr

I have an interview mp3 file that is 90 minutes long that I want to burn to a cdr. Is there any way to compress that file yet still be recognized by a standard non-computer CD player? I have tried a couple of compression programs incl one that converted it to WAV and compresed it and the other just compressed as an MP3 . In both cases the burner would not recognize the file, and would not burn it. Any suggestions? thanks.

XP
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:24:28 GMT, "Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:

Quote:

I have an interview mp3 file that is 90 minutes long that I want to burn to
a cdr. Is there any way to compress that file yet still be recognized by a
standard non-computer CD player? I have tried a couple of compression
programs incl one that converted it to WAV and compresed it and the other
just compressed as an MP3 . In both cases the burner would not recognize the
file, and would not burn it.

Any suggestions? thanks.

Yes 90 min CD's

Larry B
Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

"XP" <xp@nospam.comn> wrote in message
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Quote:

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:24:28 GMT, "Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:

I have an interview mp3 file that is 90 minutes long that I want to burn
to
a cdr. Is there any way to compress that file yet still be recognized by
a
standard non-computer CD player? I have tried a couple of compression
programs incl one that converted it to WAV and compresed it and the other
just compressed as an MP3 . In both cases the burner would not recognize
the
file, and would not burn it.

Any suggestions? thanks.

Yes 90 min CD's

Will any burner recognize it and utilize its capacity? I am now using the
Record Now (basic) that came with my LiteOn.

Guest

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

"Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote in message
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Quote:

"XP" <xp@nospam.comn> wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:24:28 GMT, "Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov
wrote:

I have an interview mp3 file that is 90 minutes long that I want to burn
to
a cdr. Is there any way to compress that file yet still be recognized by
a
standard non-computer CD player? I have tried a couple of compression
programs incl one that converted it to WAV and compresed it and the
other
just compressed as an MP3 . In both cases the burner would not recognize
the
file, and would not burn it.

Any suggestions? thanks.

Yes 90 min CD's

Will any burner recognize it and utilize its capacity? I am now using the
Record Now (basic) that came with my LiteOn.

Yes. I've done it with Click 'n' Burn, which is the predecessor to
RecordNow. You have to set the capacity of the disc, so that the burner
will burn all of it. The maximum stated capacity of the disc is 80 minutes,
but you can set the program to keep burning.

Norm

Mike Richter
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

Larry B wrote:

Quote:

Any good audio editor will let you do that, changing pitch or not as you
choose. (I use Adobe Audition, but there are many less costly options.)

Mike
--
mrichter@cpl.net
http://www.mrichter.com/

XP
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:51:12 -0800, Mike Richter <mrichter@cpl.net> wrote:

Quote:

Larry B wrote:
I have an interview mp3 file that is 90 minutes long that I want to burn to
a cdr. Is there any way to compress that file yet still be recognized by a
standard non-computer CD player? I have tried a couple of compression
programs incl one that converted it to WAV and compresed it and the other
just compressed as an MP3 . In both cases the burner would not recognize the
file, and would not burn it.

Any suggestions? thanks.

Other than a longer disc, your best bet may be to speed up the WAV file.
Any good audio editor will let you do that, changing pitch or not as you
choose. (I use Adobe Audition, but there are many less costly options.)

Mike

The Wav file would never it...

Larry B.
Guest

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

"Mike Richter" <mrichter@cpl.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

Larry B wrote:
I have an interview mp3 file that is 90 minutes long that I want to burn
to
a cdr. Is there any way to compress that file yet still be recognized by
a
standard non-computer CD player? I have tried a couple of compression
programs incl one that converted it to WAV and compresed it and the other
just compressed as an MP3 . In both cases the burner would not recognize
the
file, and would not burn it.

Any suggestions? thanks.

Other than a longer disc, your best bet may be to speed up the WAV file.
Any good audio editor will let you do that, changing pitch or not as you
choose. (I use Adobe Audition, but there are many less costly options.)

Mike

Hi Mike , thanks alot for the input. I have Steinberg Clean 4.0 with does
have a pitch control (Varispeed). I keep tweaking it until I get it down to
under 80 minutes or so. The first run got from 90 to 82. If this is what
basically time compression is, then I should be able to squeeze 15% (down to
77 min) out without serious pitch issues, agree??''

If this fails, I will try the 90 min CDR idea next. Thanks again for your
helpfulness.

Larry

Larry B.
Guest

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

"Larry B." <gitridaspam@aol.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Mike Richter" <mrichter@cpl.net> wrote in message
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Larry B wrote:
I have an interview mp3 file that is 90 minutes long that I want to burn
to
a cdr. Is there any way to compress that file yet still be recognized by
a
standard non-computer CD player? I have tried a couple of compression
programs incl one that converted it to WAV and compresed it and the
other
just compressed as an MP3 . In both cases the burner would not recognize
the
file, and would not burn it.

Any suggestions? thanks.

Other than a longer disc, your best bet may be to speed up the WAV file.
Any good audio editor will let you do that, changing pitch or not as you
choose. (I use Adobe Audition, but there are many less costly options.)

Mike

Hi Mike , thanks alot for the input. I have Steinberg Clean 4.0 with does
have a pitch control (Varispeed). I keep tweaking it until I get it down
to under 80 minutes or so. The first run got from 90 to 82. If this is
what basically time compression is, then I should be able to squeeze 15%
(down to 77 min) out without serious pitch issues, agree??''

If this fails, I will try the 90 min CDR idea next. Thanks again for your
helpfulness.

Larry

------------------------------

Unfortunately, what pitch changes it took to get 90 minutes to 78 minutes
turned men's voices into women's and women's into childrens. Hello Alvin,
Hello Theodore.

So, 90min CDr is the only choice left??

Thanks, Larry

XP
Guest

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:14:35 GMT, "Larry B." <gitridaspam@aol.com> wrote:

Quote:

"Larry B." <gitridaspam@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Mike Richter" <mrichter@cpl.net> wrote in message
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Larry B wrote:
I have an interview mp3 file that is 90 minutes long that I want to burn
to
a cdr. Is there any way to compress that file yet still be recognized by
a
standard non-computer CD player? I have tried a couple of compression
programs incl one that converted it to WAV and compresed it and the
other
just compressed as an MP3 . In both cases the burner would not recognize
the
file, and would not burn it.

Any suggestions? thanks.

Other than a longer disc, your best bet may be to speed up the WAV file.
Any good audio editor will let you do that, changing pitch or not as you
choose. (I use Adobe Audition, but there are many less costly options.)

Mike

Hi Mike , thanks alot for the input. I have Steinberg Clean 4.0 with does
have a pitch control (Varispeed). I keep tweaking it until I get it down
to under 80 minutes or so. The first run got from 90 to 82. If this is
what basically time compression is, then I should be able to squeeze 15%
(down to 77 min) out without serious pitch issues, agree??''

If this fails, I will try the 90 min CDR idea next. Thanks again for your
helpfulness.

Larry

------------------------------

Unfortunately, what pitch changes it took to get 90 minutes to 78 minutes
turned men's voices into women's and women's into childrens. Hello Alvin,
Hello Theodore.

So, 90min CDr is the only choice left??

Thanks, Larry

Also there are 99 min ones

Maxwell Edison
Guest

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:14:35 GMT, "Larry B." <gitridaspam@aol.com>
wrote:

Quote:

I don't know about Steinberg Clean, but CoolEdit2000 has an option to
speed up a file by changing the tempo rather than the pitch.

I also remember seeing a program that trimmed gaps of silence between
words/phrases. Perhaps a google search could help you out on that
one.

Mike Richter
Guest

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

Maxwell Edison wrote:

Quote:

Other than a longer disc, your best bet may be to speed up the WAV file.
Any good audio editor will let you do that, changing pitch or not as you
choose. (I use Adobe Audition, but there are many less costly options.)

Mike

Hi Mike , thanks alot for the input. I have Steinberg Clean 4.0 with does
have a pitch control (Varispeed). I keep tweaking it until I get it down
to under 80 minutes or so. The first run got from 90 to 82. If this is
what basically time compression is, then I should be able to squeeze 15%
(down to 77 min) out without serious pitch issues, agree??''

If this fails, I will try the 90 min CDR idea next. Thanks again for your
helpfulness.

Larry

------------------------------

Unfortunately, what pitch changes it took to get 90 minutes to 78 minutes
turned men's voices into women's and women's into childrens. Hello Alvin,
Hello Theodore.

So, 90min CDr is the only choice left??

Thanks, Larry

I don't know about Steinberg Clean, but CoolEdit2000 has an option to
speed up a file by changing the tempo rather than the pitch.

I also remember seeing a program that trimmed gaps of silence between
words/phrases. Perhaps a google search could help you out on that
one.

Unfortunately, my news server has been losing a lot of posts including
both of Larry's quoted above. As I had said (also above), one can either
change pitch or not with a suitable editor. I use Adobe Audition,
successor to CoolEdit Pro; again unfortunately, CoolEdit is no longer
available and Audition is expensive.

So ... check for less costly editors which allow changing duration
without changing pitch at all or changing it little enough to avoid
making people into chipmunks. I believe GoldWave (shareware) does it,
but there must be others. Any change of more than 10% is likely to have
some audible effects so a compromise may be needed.

Larry might also consider splitting the recording onto two discs.

Mike
--
mrichter@cpl.net
http://www.mrichter.com/

Larry B
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:55 am Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

"Mike Richter" <mrichter@cpl.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

Maxwell Edison wrote:

Other than a longer disc, your best bet may be to speed up the WAV
file.
Any good audio editor will let you do that, changing pitch or not as
you
choose. (I use Adobe Audition, but there are many less costly
options.)

Mike

Hi Mike , thanks alot for the input. I have Steinberg Clean 4.0 with
does
have a pitch control (Varispeed). I keep tweaking it until I get it
down
to under 80 minutes or so. The first run got from 90 to 82. If this is
what basically time compression is, then I should be able to squeeze
15%
(down to 77 min) out without serious pitch issues, agree??''

If this fails, I will try the 90 min CDR idea next. Thanks again for
your
helpfulness.

Larry

------------------------------

Unfortunately, what pitch changes it took to get 90 minutes to 78
minutes
turned men's voices into women's and women's into childrens. Hello
Alvin,
Hello Theodore.

So, 90min CDr is the only choice left??

Thanks, Larry

I don't know about Steinberg Clean, but CoolEdit2000 has an option to
speed up a file by changing the tempo rather than the pitch.

I also remember seeing a program that trimmed gaps of silence between
words/phrases. Perhaps a google search could help you out on that
one.

Unfortunately, my news server has been losing a lot of posts including
both of Larry's quoted above. As I had said (also above), one can either
change pitch or not with a suitable editor. I use Adobe Audition,
successor to CoolEdit Pro; again unfortunately, CoolEdit is no longer
available and Audition is expensive.

So ... check for less costly editors which allow changing duration
without changing pitch at all or changing it little enough to avoid
making people into chipmunks. I believe GoldWave (shareware) does it,
but there must be others. Any change of more than 10% is likely to have
some audible effects so a compromise may be needed.

Larry might also consider splitting the recording onto two discs.

Mike

I will look for an alternative editor as mine apparently only does pitch. If
this proves to be too costly for this limited use, then I may just split the
file into 2.

Thanks for everything!!

Larry B
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Compression for cdr

"Larry B" <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Mike Richter" <mrichter@cpl.net> wrote in message
news:dl5586$v2m$1@madmax.keyway.net...
Maxwell Edison wrote:

Other than a longer disc, your best bet may be to speed up the WAV
file.
Any good audio editor will let you do that, changing pitch or not as
you
choose. (I use Adobe Audition, but there are many less costly
options.)

Mike

Hi Mike , thanks alot for the input. I have Steinberg Clean 4.0 with
does
have a pitch control (Varispeed). I keep tweaking it until I get it
down
to under 80 minutes or so. The first run got from 90 to 82. If this
is
what basically time compression is, then I should be able to squeeze
15%
(down to 77 min) out without serious pitch issues, agree??''

If this fails, I will try the 90 min CDR idea next. Thanks again for
your
helpfulness.

Larry

------------------------------

Unfortunately, what pitch changes it took to get 90 minutes to 78
minutes
turned men's voices into women's and women's into childrens. Hello
Alvin,
Hello Theodore.

So, 90min CDr is the only choice left??

Thanks, Larry

I don't know about Steinberg Clean, but CoolEdit2000 has an option to
speed up a file by changing the tempo rather than the pitch.

I also remember seeing a program that trimmed gaps of silence between
words/phrases. Perhaps a google search could help you out on that
one.

Unfortunately, my news server has been losing a lot of posts including
both of Larry's quoted above. As I had said (also above), one can either
change pitch or not with a suitable editor. I use Adobe Audition,
successor to CoolEdit Pro; again unfortunately, CoolEdit is no longer
available and Audition is expensive.

So ... check for less costly editors which allow changing duration
without changing pitch at all or changing it little enough to avoid
making people into chipmunks. I believe GoldWave (shareware) does it,
but there must be others. Any change of more than 10% is likely to have
some audible effects so a compromise may be needed.

Larry might also consider splitting the recording onto two discs.

Mike

I will look for an alternative editor as mine apparently only does pitch.
If
this proves to be too costly for this limited use, then I may just split
the
file into 2.

Thanks for everything!!

----------------------

Just wanted to mention that though the Steinberg Clean has a lot of great
features (and I already own it), I did find a freeware prog "Audacity" that
would modify the Tempo, not Pitch. It worked great with little pitch change,
even at 14%!. Thanks to all for their input. Larry

P.S. I am going to pick up a few extended capacity CDrs just to see if they
work in my players.

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