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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:06 pm    Post subject: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

I use a powered USB hub in place of a docking station for my laptop -
have a full size keyboard, a printer, and a wireless mouse on the hub.
I just plug the hub USB cord into the laptop USB port when I use the
laptop at home.

I also have a second AC adapter cord that I use at home. Is there any
harm in leaving the AC adapter powered (plugged into AC power) all the
time? The 'green' power indicator stays on all the time but the adapter
remains cool (gets warm when plugged into the laptop).

Thanks
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Jerry Park
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
I use a powered USB hub in place of a docking station for my laptop -
have a full size keyboard, a printer, and a wireless mouse on the hub.
I just plug the hub USB cord into the laptop USB port when I use the
laptop at home.

I also have a second AC adapter cord that I use at home. Is there any
harm in leaving the AC adapter powered (plugged into AC power) all the
time? The 'green' power indicator stays on all the time but the adapter
remains cool (gets warm when plugged into the laptop).

Thanks

I leave mine plugged in almost always. The system is three years old

with no problems.
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Charlie Hoffpauir
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

On 6 Nov 2005 06:06:44 -0800, saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:

Quote:
I use a powered USB hub in place of a docking station for my laptop -
have a full size keyboard, a printer, and a wireless mouse on the hub.
I just plug the hub USB cord into the laptop USB port when I use the
laptop at home.

I also have a second AC adapter cord that I use at home. Is there any
harm in leaving the AC adapter powered (plugged into AC power) all the
time? The 'green' power indicator stays on all the time but the adapter
remains cool (gets warm when plugged into the laptop).

Thanks

Opinions (and user experience) seems to differ, but I would guess
"most" experience battery life shortening if the battery remains on
the charger all the time. If you remove the battery, then I see no
reason to not leave the power on continuously.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
Quote:
On 6 Nov 2005 06:06:44 -0800, saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:

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I also have a second AC adapter cord that I use at home. Is there any
harm in leaving the AC adapter powered (plugged into AC power) all the
time? The 'green' power indicator stays on all the time but the adapter
remains cool (gets warm when plugged into the laptop).

Thanks

Opinions (and user experience) seems to differ, but I would guess
"most" experience battery life shortening if the battery remains on
the charger all the time. If you remove the battery, then I see no
reason to not leave the power on continuously.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/

Maybe I should have been more clear - it's only the AC adapter that I
would leave plugged in to the AC wall socket all the time - the laptop
is only connected when I want to use the laptop. So my question was -
does it harm the adapter module to have AC current all the time - i.e.,
can the adapter wear out by being powered 24/7 for months at a time?

Thanks
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John Doue
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:

Quote:
Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

On 6 Nov 2005 06:06:44 -0800, saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:

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I also have a second AC adapter cord that I use at home. Is there any
harm in leaving the AC adapter powered (plugged into AC power) all the
time? The 'green' power indicator stays on all the time but the adapter
remains cool (gets warm when plugged into the laptop).

Thanks

Opinions (and user experience) seems to differ, but I would guess
"most" experience battery life shortening if the battery remains on
the charger all the time. If you remove the battery, then I see no
reason to not leave the power on continuously.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/


Maybe I should have been more clear - it's only the AC adapter that I
would leave plugged in to the AC wall socket all the time - the laptop
is only connected when I want to use the laptop. So my question was -
does it harm the adapter module to have AC current all the time - i.e.,
can the adapter wear out by being powered 24/7 for months at a time?

Thanks

If I understand what you are saying, you intend to leave the AC adapter

plugged in all the time and to connect the laptop only when needed.
Well, this practice is certainly not going to harm the adapter ... but I
doubt it is wise to proceed this way. I personally believe the adapter
should be first plugged in the laptop, and only then, to the power. This
is the best way to avoid any spike to the laptop. But probably someone
knowing more technically about this issue can confirm or infirm my views.

Regards

--
John Doue
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Charlie Hoffpauir
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:46:54 GMT, John Doue <notwobe@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:

Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:

On 6 Nov 2005 06:06:44 -0800, saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:

cut

I also have a second AC adapter cord that I use at home. Is there any
harm in leaving the AC adapter powered (plugged into AC power) all the
time? The 'green' power indicator stays on all the time but the adapter
remains cool (gets warm when plugged into the laptop).

Thanks

Opinions (and user experience) seems to differ, but I would guess
"most" experience battery life shortening if the battery remains on
the charger all the time. If you remove the battery, then I see no
reason to not leave the power on continuously.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/


Maybe I should have been more clear - it's only the AC adapter that I
would leave plugged in to the AC wall socket all the time - the laptop
is only connected when I want to use the laptop. So my question was -
does it harm the adapter module to have AC current all the time - i.e.,
can the adapter wear out by being powered 24/7 for months at a time?

Thanks

If I understand what you are saying, you intend to leave the AC adapter
plugged in all the time and to connect the laptop only when needed.
Well, this practice is certainly not going to harm the adapter ... but I
doubt it is wise to proceed this way. I personally believe the adapter
should be first plugged in the laptop, and only then, to the power. This
is the best way to avoid any spike to the laptop. But probably someone
knowing more technically about this issue can confirm or infirm my views.

Regards
I think John is correct, that it won't harm the adapter. I also think

(but don't know for certain) that it won't harm the laptop.... in
fact, had I such an adapter, I think I'd want to leave it on all the
time also. It seems the logical way to use one to me.
Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

Interesting issue John Doue brings up. I believe typically most people
probably set the laptop on the table, plug the AC adapter into the
wall socket and then plug the adapter into the laptop. Yet I believe
somewhere I read something about the proper sequence of connecting a
laptop to AC power - have no idea if I really read this or simply think
I did.

How about others - is there a correct sequence (and why)?

Thanks
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

I too have two adapters, one at work and one at home.
I leave both adapters plugged in all the time, since
several years now, and I have seen no ill effects.
Thinkpad.

On 6 Nov 2005 06:06:44 -0800, saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:

Quote:
I use a powered USB hub in place of a docking station for my laptop -
have a full size keyboard, a printer, and a wireless mouse on the hub.
I just plug the hub USB cord into the laptop USB port when I use the
laptop at home.

I also have a second AC adapter cord that I use at home. Is there any
harm in leaving the AC adapter powered (plugged into AC power) all the
time? The 'green' power indicator stays on all the time but the adapter
remains cool (gets warm when plugged into the laptop).



Lars
Stockholm
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H. Dziardziel
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

On 6 Nov 2005 13:08:24 -0800, saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:

Quote:
Interesting issue John Doue brings up. I believe typically most people
probably set the laptop on the table, plug the AC adapter into the
wall socket and then plug the adapter into the laptop. Yet I believe
somewhere I read something about the proper sequence of connecting a
laptop to AC power - have no idea if I really read this or simply think
I did.

How about others - is there a correct sequence (and why)?

Thanks

The recommended sequence is: power every device off; connect all,
and any other connections e.g., network cables; plug into ac
lines; then power on, one by one. This reduces the chance of
electrical shock between devices and cables. This will also
reduce static discharges although some cables may be grounded so
there could be discharges.

If the last thing being connected is the power supply then
plugging it into the ac line first then into the laptop won't make
a practical difference for those considerations. Its ac line and
dc output are isolated and the ps-laptop dc plugs and jacks are
designed so grounds are made first; any static electricity between
the two will go through device grounds just as if the psand
l;aptop were connected first.

In fact, it's better for the ps to be powered up first then
connected to the laptop just in case the pack starts charging at
once although good design will delay the charge start until
voltages settle.. It is also of no consequence to keep the ps
plugged in all the time if it stays at room temperature -- in fact
that may extend its life. Most electronics fails when powered
up.. This assumes no ac outages of course.

..
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Roy
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

Quote:
Opinions (and user experience) seems to differ, but I would guess
">most" experience battery life shortening if the battery remains on
the charger all the time. If you remove the battery, then I see no
reason to not leave the power on continuously.
Charlie Hoffpauir

I agree with this....
When my laptop was new the battery life was 3.5 hours but when I
continuously used the AC adapter the effectve battery life had become
2.5 hours!
Is there anybody here who had similar experience?
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Gerhard Fiedler
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: OK to leave AC adapter ON fulltime? Reply with quote

saltwaterfishing@gmail.com wrote:

Quote:
Interesting issue John Doue brings up. I believe typically most people
probably set the laptop on the table, plug the AC adapter into the
wall socket and then plug the adapter into the laptop. Yet I believe
somewhere I read something about the proper sequence of connecting a
laptop to AC power - have no idea if I really read this or simply think
I did.

How about others - is there a correct sequence (and why)?

I don't see any reason for a "correct" sequence. If there would be spikes
generated in the notebook from plugging the power supply in, they could be
generated whether the PS is powered up or not. So that's not a good
argument for either way. There's also the thought that a power supply is
not fully stabilized in the start-up phase, so this is always a moment
where it is in intermediate states that are not the normal operating
condition, and therefore the probability that odd things happen is higher
-- which would be an argument for powering it up first and then plugging it
in.

Have you ever got that prompt "battery's low, plug in your PS as soon as
possible"? That's exactly what notebooks and their PSes are made for. Have
them running, plug the PS in and out as you like even while running it, and
even more so when it is off. I do that all the time and never had a
problem.

Gerhard
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