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Frank
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
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JR wrote:
| Quote: | measekite wrote:
JR wrote:
measekite wrote:
God wrote:
In article <mRLbf.9501$BZ5.2770@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
WHAT I SAY ABOUT INK IS TRUE. IF A PERSON HAS TROULBE WITH
GENERIC INK HE BOUGHT FROM VENDOR A AND THEN GOES AND BUYS A
DIFFERENT LABEL FROM VENDOR B THERE IS A HIGH PROBABLILITY HE WILL
GET THE SAME STUFF. IT CANNOT BE TRACKED BECAUSE THERE ARE NO
BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS OTHER THAN CANON EPSON AND HP
I WISH THERE WAS BUT THERE IS NOT
Of course, if he has no problem, this illogic does not apply. And
if he refills, he knows what ink he uses.
NO HE DOES NOT. ALMOST ALL OF THE VENDORS DO NOT DISCLOSE THE
MFG/FORMULATOR OF THE INK THEY ARE EITHER SUPPLIED WITH OR REBOTTLE
UNDER THEIR LABEL.
i'm usually only lurk here but i find you all caps very unreadable
I FIND YOUR LOWERCASE LESS READABLE. IT IS TOO SMALL
and most of your responses about ink and vendors to be not truth.
THEY ARE THE TRUTH. GOTO A BUNCH OF THEIR WEBSITES. LOOK AT THE
SECTION ON PREFILLED CARTS. COPY AND PASTE RIGHT HERE ALL OF THE
INFORMATION WHERE THEY TELL YOU WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS.
SINCE YOU CANNOT DO THAT AND NOBODY ELSE HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT THEN
IT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT I AM TELLING IT LIKE IT IS. GAW HEAD MAKE MY
DAY PROVE ME RONG.
i have not any idea why you are like you are but i thinking you maybe
not right in the right places.
now only follow the thoughts of others as they maybe true.
jr
no you very wrong. but you no worth any time to anyone to proving it. i
see you post and nobody care what lies you always saying. i sees many
people knows much more than you from inks.
i no care about you.
jr
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hehehehe...you just gotta love it when even lurkers come down on that
idiot meashershithead.
No one believes his stinking lies and no dives a shit about his stupid
idiotic bullshit drivel!
Way to JR!
Frank |
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me@privacy.net
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject:
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In message <1131482075.206821.304270@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
zakezuke <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> writes
| Quote: | i'm usually only lurk here but i find you all caps very unreadable and
most of your responses about ink and vendors to be not truth. i have not
any idea why you are like you are but i thinking you maybe not right in
the right places.
It's one theory around here he's employed by a marketing group on
behalf of canon to do virual marketing. The kids today don't watch as
much tv as they should so we end up with a bunch of fellows who's
mission in life is to make every site a mirror for the marketing
department.
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Isn't it more likely that he works for Epson? After all his ill-thought
canon promotion is likely to put off more people than it attracts!
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measekite
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject:
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CANON OEN INK
REDUCES THE RISK OF A PRINTHEAD CLOG
INCREASES THE ENJOYMENT OF USING YOUR PRINTER
ALLOWS YOU TO FOCUS ON PHOTOGRAPHY INSTEAD OF PRINTER PROBLEMS
G Bush the lesser wrote:
| Quote: | In article <Zb7cf.14057$tV6.2326@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
CANON QUALITY CONTROL
EPSON QUALITY CONTROL
HP QUALITY CONTROL
Words of a true believer. A religious zealot for OEM supplies. The safe
place little minds hide.
Don't worry, Measekite, nobody here wants to force you to think outside
the safe little space you hide in. They just want you to stop pretending
you have knowledge of things outside that little area your mind is
locked into.
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measekite
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject:
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Bill Clinton wrote:
| Quote: | In article <ca5cf.10426$D13.6581@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
God wrote:
In article <CSLbf.9502$BZ5.2187@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
YOU ALSO DO NOT KNOW IF THEY CHANGE THEIR SUPPLIER
FROM ONE MONTH TO THE NEXT. THEY MIGHT BUY FROM THE LOWEST BIDDER.
As Canon might.
WITH CANON IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES EITHER MAKE OR DO
NOT MAKE THEIR INK IT IS THE FACT THEY DESIGNED THE PRINTER PAPER AND
INK AND THEN MAINTAIN QUALITY CONTROL IN THE FACTORY.
IN ESSENSE THEY MAY BE USING SOMEONE ELSE CAPITAL AND LABOR UNDER THEIR
CONTROL AND SPECIFICATIONS. THEY ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
And this makes them different from the vendors you disparage in what
way? They do not disclose the source, they are "IN DA BUSINESS", they
are overcharging you. They are exploiting your sheeplike, follow the
rules mentality, they make you feel like a fool, yet you still follow.
Baa baaa baa.
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MARY HAD A LITTLE LAMB
DA DOCTOR WAS SURPRISED |
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measekite
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject:
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Measley's remorse wrote:
| Quote: | In article <qb5cf.10427$D13.3443@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
God wrote:
In article <mRLbf.9501$BZ5.2770@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
Of course, if he has no problem, this illogic does not apply. And if he
refills, he knows what ink he uses.
NO HE DOES NOT. ALMOST ALL OF THE VENDORS DO NOT DISCLOSE THE
MFG/FORMULATOR OF THE INK THEY ARE EITHER SUPPLIED WITH OR REBOTTLE
UNDER THEIR LABEL.
How would you know, you've never seen a bottle of refill ink.
Those who know nothing should post nothing.
FIND THE CONTRARY ON THE WEB AND CUT AND PASTER THE INFORMATION HERE. |
YOU CANNOT FIND IT. |
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zakezuke
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Measkete said: crazy stuff
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http://www.88inkjets.com/Canon_BCI6C_Compatible.html
"...Only use individual formula of ink for each model from Formulabs,
Inc., the leading ink manufacturer in the world - ...."
You have been linked to this many many many times, yet you ignore it.
While i'll agree most venders don't disclose this information.... some
do.
And let us see what Image Specalists says about the subject too
http://www.image-specialists.com/ordering.htm
"Inks are normally supplied with Image Specialists labeling. Customers
may request generic, non-branded identification labels or provide their
own branded labels for application on the packaging."
While i'll agree most venders don't disclose this information... some
do. |
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measekite
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:12 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measkete said: crazy stuff
http://www.88inkjets.com/Canon_BCI6C_Compatible.html
"...Only use individual formula of ink for each model from Formulabs,
Inc., the leading ink manufacturer in the world - ...."
You have been linked to this many many many times, yet you ignore it.
While i'll agree most venders don't disclose this information.... some
do.
I SPOKE TO THEM AND HAVE FOLLOWED THEM. THEY HAVE BEEN THE ONLY COMPANY |
WITH ANY PROMISE. I HAVE URGED THEM IN THE PAST TO DISCLOSE THE BRAND
OF INK THEY SELL ON THEIR WEBSITE. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY TOOK MY ADVICE.
THEY HAVE PROCOLOR INK CARTRIDGES (WHO EVER THEY ARE) FILLED WITH
FORMULABS INK IN CHINA AND THEN IMPORT THEM TO THE USA. THEY ARE ABOUT
HALF THE PRICE OF THE CANON OEM INK THAT I AM PAYING.
MY PRINTLOAD IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH TO MAKE IT WORTHWHILE TO TAKE ANY RISK
USING AFTERMARKET INK OR TO REDUCE THE QUALITY THAT I AM GETTING NOW.
IF MY PRINTLOAD BECOMES HIGH ENOUGH WHERE I NO LONGER WANT TO SPEND THE
CURRENT PRICE THEN I MIGHT CONSIDER THEM.
IT APPEARS THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO SELL PREFILLED CARTS ON THE WEB
AND FULLY DISCLOSE WHAT THEY ARE SELLING. THEY ALSO TOLD ME (NOT
MENTIONED ON THEIR WEBSITE) THE THE bci3Ebk IS REALLY PIGMENTED INK.
| Quote: | Customers
may request generic, non-branded identification labels or provide their
own branded labels for application on the packaging."
While i'll agree most venders don't disclose this information... some
do.
I AM GLAD YOU FINALLY SEE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE AND ADMIT. THE ONLY |
ONE THAT DOES IS 88INKJETS.
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zakezuke
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:46 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Measkite said: crazy stuff
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I'm glad you admit your chalange was accepted and won... you were
acting really nutty for a while. And you can no doubt agree that you
were dead wrong.
You were quoted this site back in June.... they said it then and they
say it now. Nothing has changed you just finally realised that it was
nuts to live in denial.
| Quote: | I am glad you finally see things the way they are and
admit. the only one that does is 88inkjets
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Actually "First Ink International Holding Ltd"
http://listing.hk.business.yahoo.com/en/13358/
" All the ink we use are directly imported from Formulabs USA."
Their stuff is labled "Logic" but as with all companies like this they
offer private label branding.. to be honest I've never heard of Logic.
But yet another company willing to disclose what ink they are using. |
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measekite
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:01 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measkite said: crazy stuff
I'm glad you admit your chalange was accepted and won...
THERE WAS NO CHALLENGE AND NO WINNER. I HAVE URGED THIS COMPANY AS WELL |
AS OTHER TO DISCLOSE FOR MONTHS. THEY FINALLY DID. THE REMAINING
WHORES DID NOT.
| Quote: | you were
acting really nutty for a while.
YOU STILL MAY BE |
| Quote: | And you can no doubt agree that you
were dead wrong.
NO WAY |
| Quote: | You were quoted this site back in June....
I KNEW ABOUT THEM FOR A LONG TIME BUT THEY DID NOT DISCLOSE ON THEIR |
WEBSITE WHEN I FIRST SPOKE TO THEM.
| Quote: | they said it then and they
say it now. Nothing has changed you just finally realised that it was
nuts to live in denial.
I REALIZE WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU. THE INDUSTRY IS A WHORES INDUSTRY. |
IN ANY EVENT THE JURY IS OUT ON FORMULABS INK. I HAVE NO CLUE IF IT CAN
MATCH UP TO CANON IN LONGEVITY. APPEARANCE OR CLOG RESISTANTCE. THERE
IS STILL A HIGHER RISK. THERE IS ALSO THE PROBLEM THAT FORMULABS INK
DOES NOT MATCH THE NEW CANON INK IN THE NEW PRINTERS. FORMULABS STILL
HAD A PROBLEM WHEN THEY CHANGED THEIR FOMULAE. NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT HOW
FORMULABS WORKS IN AN EPSON OR AN HP.
GIMME A BREAK. THERE A MANY UNKNOWNS.
CANON INK AND CANON PRINTERS WERE DESIGNED TOGETHER.
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I am glad you finally see things the way they are and
admit. the only one that does is 88inkjets
Actually "First Ink International Holding Ltd"
http://listing.hk.business.yahoo.com/en/13358/
" All the ink we use are directly imported from Formulabs USA."
Their stuff is labled "Logic" but as with all companies like this they
offer private label branding.. to be honest I've never heard of Logic.
But yet another company willing to disclose what ink they are using.
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Frank
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:10 am Post subject:
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Bill Clinton wrote:
| Quote: | In article <ca5cf.10426$D13.6581@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
God wrote:
In article <CSLbf.9502$BZ5.2187@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
YOU ALSO DO NOT KNOW IF THEY CHANGE THEIR SUPPLIER
FROM ONE MONTH TO THE NEXT. THEY MIGHT BUY FROM THE LOWEST BIDDER.
As Canon might.
WITH CANON IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES EITHER MAKE OR DO
NOT MAKE THEIR INK IT IS THE FACT THEY DESIGNED THE PRINTER PAPER AND
INK AND THEN MAINTAIN QUALITY CONTROL IN THE FACTORY.
IN ESSENSE THEY MAY BE USING SOMEONE ELSE CAPITAL AND LABOR UNDER THEIR
CONTROL AND SPECIFICATIONS. THEY ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
And this makes them different from the vendors you disparage in what
way? They do not disclose the source, they are "IN DA BUSINESS", they
are overcharging you. They are exploiting your sheeplike, follow the
rules mentality, they make you feel like a fool, yet you still follow.
Baa baaa baa.
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Meashershithead bends waaayyyyyy over for oem's!
He love it! :-)
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zakezuke
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:27 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | there was no no challenge and no winner
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Really?
----- measekite Nov 4, 1:17 pm
THE ONLY REALLY OBSESSED AND BEING DECEPTIVE AND NOT STRAGHT FORWARD IS
YOU. CUT AND PASTE THE INFORMATION. OH NO YOU CANNOT BECAUSE IT IS
NOT THEIR. THIS IS YOUR CHALLENGE - CHICKEN
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http://groups.google.com/group/comp.periphs.printers/browse_frm/thread/dbb3a98497973f6f/5a708501a9b51774?lnk=st&q=challenge&rnum=3#5a708501a9b51774
This is what you've been obsessed with. And that info has been on the
88inkjets site for 6 months... it's been linked here many times. I
guess you don't like being caught in a lie.
| Quote: | in any event the juty is out on formulabs ink. i have no clue if it can match up to
canon in longevity
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That is at the very least a *legit* question. But keep in mind that
Canon OEM ink is at the ass end of the scale for lightfastness... we're
talking 10 years for the chromalife100 when not under glass and exposed
to moderate light according to canon usa. The old bci-6 ink was rated
at 25 years under glass. But odds are the OEM ink is probally more
light fast... the real question is do you want to spend $3000/gal for
something only lightfast or do you want to spend $300/gal for something
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measekite
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:00 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
HAS NOT BEEN THERE FOR LONG. I DO NOT CHECK EVERY DAY LIKE YOU WHO ARE
OBSEDDED
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in any event the juty is out on formulabs ink. i have no clue if it can match up to
canon in longevity
That is at the very least a *legit* question.
DUH |
| Quote: | But keep in mind that
Canon OEM ink is at the ass end of the scale for lightfastness...
NO PROBLEM FOR ME |
| Quote: | we're
talking 10 years for the chromalife100 when not under glass and exposed
to moderate light according to canon usa.
HAS NO BEEN OUT THAT LONG BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE ENVIRONMENT |
| Quote: | The old bci-6 ink was rated
at 25 years under glass. But odds are the OEM ink is probally more
light fast... the real question is do you want to spend $3000/gal for
something only lightfast or do you want to spend $300/gal for something
that might not be as lightfast.
I AM NOT BUING A GALLON. WHAT A JOKE |
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measekite
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:00 am Post subject:
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Frank wrote:
| Quote: | Bill Clinton wrote:
In article <ca5cf.10426$D13.6581@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
God wrote:
In article <CSLbf.9502$BZ5.2187@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
YOU ALSO DO NOT KNOW IF THEY CHANGE THEIR SUPPLIER
FROM ONE MONTH TO THE NEXT. THEY MIGHT BUY FROM THE LOWEST BIDDER.
As Canon might.
WITH CANON IT IS NOT SO MUCH THAT THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES EITHER MAKE OR
DO NOT MAKE THEIR INK IT IS THE FACT THEY DESIGNED THE PRINTER PAPER
AND INK AND THEN MAINTAIN QUALITY CONTROL IN THE FACTORY.
IN ESSENSE THEY MAY BE USING SOMEONE ELSE CAPITAL AND LABOR UNDER
THEIR CONTROL AND SPECIFICATIONS. THEY ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
And this makes them different from the vendors you disparage in what
way? They do not disclose the source, they are "IN DA BUSINESS", they
are overcharging you. They are exploiting your sheeplike, follow the
rules mentality, they make you feel like a fool, yet you still
follow. Baa baaa baa.
Meashershithead bends waaayyyyyy over for oem's!
He love it! :-)
Frank
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WATCH OUT ALONG CAME ROVER |
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zakezuke
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:17 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | has not been there for long. i do not check every day like you who are obsedded
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It's been there for months.... you've been linked to it many times over
6 months. I guess you can't read... or enjoy your lies.
| Quote: | i am not buing a gallon. what a joke
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No sir, but you are spending about $50 for a set of cartridges on your
ip4000, where i'm spending about $15. I can be more frugal and cut
that cost down to $8.
| Quote: | Canon OEM ink is at the ass end of the scale for lightfastness...
no problem for me
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What's sad is i'm quoting canon's numbers on the new ink... and 10
years is what they say for the chomalife100 on their premium papers.
This is very lame and you can be sure this is best case scenero.
But you did say one smart thing... you didn't know anything about the
ink. This is the first honest thing you've said in a long time... so
when ever you speak about it people know you have no experence what so
ever.
The challange was won, you lost. |
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Measley's remorse
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:29 am Post subject:
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In article <dMocf.17312$dO2.13358@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
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Measley's remorse wrote:
How would you know, you've never seen a bottle of refill ink.
Those who know nothing should post nothing.
FIND THE CONTRARY ON THE WEB AND CUT AND PASTER THE INFORMATION HERE.
YOU CANNOT FIND IT.
Already found it, the bottles are in my bookcase. This is called |
"experience" it's part of life. You should get some. |
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