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measekite
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:18 pm Post subject:
Re: Do Inkjets Make Sense Anymore? |
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Taliesyn wrote:
| Quote: | XP wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:10:37 -0800, El Castor
justuschickens@not-here.com
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I just retired my second inkjet in a row due to a clogged head. (Ok, I
admit I refill.)
WELL WHAT DO YOU EXPECT. |
| Quote: | I bought my last inkjet, a Canon i860, to among other
things, print digital photos. It worked ok for that, but I think most
of us would secretly admit that it can sometimes be a hassle. I
replaced the Canon with a cheap laser that does superior B&W that
doesn't smear when I grab it too quickly or get it wet. I can take an
SD chip or CD into Walgreens or Costco and print 4X6's for the wife in
a flash compared to a home inkjet, and I think those prints cost less
-- 17 to 29 cents each, and I don't have to pay for the paper and ink.
So with under $100 lasers and 17 cent 4X6's, do inkjets continue to
make sense for most people in the home market?
Jeff
IF YOU USE CANON OEM INK IN A CANON IP4200 OR IP5200 AND COSTCO PAPER |
THAT YOU CAN CUT INTO 4X6 THE PAPER COST IS 4.X CENTS FOR A 4X6. YOU
WILL HAVE A LEFT OVER FOR WALLET SIZE TOO. I DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY 4X6
YOU CAN GET OUT OF A SET OF CARTS.
UNLESS YOU ARE A GREAT PHOTOGRAPHER MOST OF THE PHOTOS WILL NOT BE WORTH
PRINTING SO I WOULD IMAGINE IF YOU SELECTIVELY PRINT (AND EDIT IN
PHOTOSHOP) THE TOTAL COST MAY EVEN BE LESS.
SINCE YOU ALREADY HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED TO AFTERMARKET INKS AND HEAD
CLOGS JUST BEWARE.
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But your $100 does not print Colour..?
The did a TV survey some weeks, and the Home Inkjet printer was the
best in
price and Picture quality.
Those Mall type printer was rated as the worse.
I believe it. I also use Qimage photo software for unbelievably
sharp, realistic images I've never been able to produce before.
This is THE program professionals and amateurs alike use. I was
skeptical at first, but the free trial download version was the
clincher. Worth it an any cost. The $45, or so, that it costs is
peanuts because my $600 Lumix camera and Canon iP5000 printer were
vision impaired without it. It was like putting glasses on and seeing
everything in focus for the first time. The mall type printers do not
use this kind of advanced software. And I don't think I've exaggerated
too much. . .
-Taliesyn |
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zakezuke
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:33 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Meaksite said: He asked a legit quesiton for once
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The offical yeild of the small color tanks bci-6 and cli-8 is 280 @ 5%
Given the large black isn't used in photo mode, we can ignore it.
Anyhow at 100% yield thats 14 pages.
Letter sized area = 93.5sq in
4x6 area = 24 sq in
(93.5 sq in / 24 sq in) = 3.9
Letter = 3.9 times greater area
14 letter sized pages * 3.9 = 54.9 4x6 pages @ 100% yield
4x6 100% yield = 54.9 pages
4x6 75% yield = 68.6 pages
4x6 50% yield = 109.2 pages
4x6 25% yield = 219.6 pages
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Using US dollars as a reference, and at 50% yield and about 11
dollars/cart we are talking the neighborhood of 40cents per 4x6 print.
Assuming Canada, that's CAD$18 each or CAD$72 so CAD 66cents each [usd
55cents]
Cross the pond in the UK we can say £6 each is fair so 24 pound a set
or about £0.22 each. [usd 38cents]
Cross that other pond in Japan ￥1000 each is reasonable or ￥4000 a
set, so ￥36.63 each [ usd 0.31 cents]
This is just the ink alone... add your own paper, which can be as low
as a nickle a pop.
Note a6 is 4.2x6 so it's area is 25.2sq... so there would be a
difference of 5% or so. |
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measekite
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:39 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Meaksite said: He asked a legit quesiton for once
OUT OF HIS MIND |
SNIPPED AND TRIMMED TO SAVE SPACE
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Mickey
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:01 am Post subject:
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Burt wrote:
| Quote: | I've now printed several photos on the new 4x6 Kirkland paper. Because of
the slight ivory colored tint, flesh tones are more toward the yellow or
orange, and whites and highlights aren't as "crisp" looking as with the
8.5x11 paper. I may use it to crank out quick photos for friends, but for
my own prints I prefer the original paper. The glossy surface and weight
are very nice, there is no bronzing in the dark areas, and the prints come
out of the printer dry to the touch. Too bad Costco didn't just get the
original mfgr of their paper to provide it cut to 4x6 format.
Although the 8.5x11 paper may be Ilford, the 4x6 is identified as made in
the USA. I don't know what firms in the USA make glossy photo paper.
In addition to the odd sizes and formats that one can do at home, home
printing of 8x10 or 8.5x11 (or even larger formats) is a greater cost
savings over quick processing places. Creative control and the ability to
immediately process prints is a great bonus as well. Convenience, contol,
and the ability to customize certainly offset the cost of the printer in my
estimation. The strict cost comparison and use of the inexpensive
processing places holds sway if the primary interest is 4x6 prints without
much effort. It is also possible that some of the processing places deliver
more archival prints - another consideration.
Thanks for the comment Burt. Was giving thought to buying some of the |
smaller size but from your comments I think I'll stay with the larger
sheets and cut to size.
Mickey |
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zakezuke
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:09 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Measkeite said: Nothing at all
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Well you had no clue how many photos you can expect go get our of the
cartridges and now you do. The numbers I hear typicaly run between the
90 to 150 range so my estimate of 110 4x6s @ 50% yield seems most
reasonable. And based on these estimates one can expect double on
pixma series than low cost printlabs. |
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measekite
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:14 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measkeite said: Nothing at all
Well you had no clue how many photos you can expect go get our of the
cartridges and now you do.
NO I DO NOT |
| Quote: | The numbers I hear typicaly run between the
90 to 150 range so my estimate of 110 4x6s @ 50% yield seems most
reasonable. And based on these estimates one can expect double on
pixma series than low cost printlabs.
HAVE NO IDEA |
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