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Colin D
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.

The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper. The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

Any ideas welcome.

Colin D.
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Jon O'Brien
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

In article <436C7E3D.69E08419@killspam.127.0.0.1>,
ColinD@killspam.127.0.0.1 (Colin D) wrote:

Quote:
I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software...

When you say that the image is:

Quote:
...imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc...

what do you mean? If you are altering any of the colours, this may be the
source of the problem, especially if your monitor hasn't been calibrated.

Also, you don't mention whether or not you are using a colour profile for
your printer/paper combination or, if you are, how you are applying it.
This may help track down the problem.

Jon.
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Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:41:17 +1300, in comp.periphs.printers Colin D
<ColinD@killspam.127.0.0.1> wrote:

Quote:
I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.

The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper. The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

How have you calibrated your monitor?
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Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
http://EdwardGRuf.com
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Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:41:17 +1300, in comp.periphs.printers Colin D
<ColinD@killspam.127.0.0.1> wrote:

Quote:
I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.

The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper. The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

How have you calibrated your monitor? How is color management set in PS and
or the printer driver and are you using the proper profile for the
ink/paper combination you are printing to?
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Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
http://EdwardGRuf.com
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measekite
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

Colin D wrote:

Quote:
I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.


THE BEST PLACE TO START IS CANON TECH SUPPORT. THEY KNOW THE SOFTWARE

BETTER THAN ANYONE HERE.

Quote:
The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper.

I HOPE YOU ARE USING CANON OEM INK


Quote:
The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

Any ideas welcome.

Colin D.

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Colin D
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

"Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!)" wrote:
Quote:

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:41:17 +1300, in comp.periphs.printers Colin D
ColinD@killspam.127.0.0.1> wrote:

I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.

The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper. The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

How have you calibrated your monitor?
--
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
http://EdwardGRuf.com

The monitor self-calibrates for sRGB, and it's not too far from aRGB,
given the gamut of crt monitors. But I don't think the monitor is the
problem, since the print preview obviously is displayed on the same
monitor, but the color difference is visible between the PS image and
the preview image. I would have thought that the preview would look the
same as the PS image.

Aah, perhaps the PS image is wrong, and maybe the preview image doesn't
use the PS settings. I gotta do some more reading. Thanks for the
reply.

Colin D.
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Colin D
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

measekite wrote:
Quote:

Colin D wrote:

I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.


THE BEST PLACE TO START IS CANON TECH SUPPORT. THEY KNOW THE SOFTWARE
BETTER THAN ANYONE HERE.

The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper.

I HOPE YOU ARE USING CANON OEM INK

Yep, bci-6 inks only here.
Quote:

The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

Any ideas welcome.

Colin D.

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Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 10:08:05 +1300, in comp.periphs.printers Colin D
<ColinD@killspam.127.0.0.1> wrote:

Quote:
The monitor self-calibrates for sRGB, and it's not too far from aRGB,
given the gamut of crt monitors. But I don't think the monitor is the
problem, since the print preview obviously is displayed on the same
monitor, but the color difference is visible between the PS image and
the preview image. I would have thought that the preview would look the
same as the PS image.

Aah, perhaps the PS image is wrong, and maybe the preview image doesn't
use the PS settings. I gotta do some more reading. Thanks for the
reply.

First you have to look at how color management is set in PS. Sounds like
you have set the working color space to AdobeRGB. So when PS displays the
image it is using the embedded profile to show the image. I don't use PS,
does it have soft-proofing option to show how the print should look
including the chosen paper profile? How about the Canon driver? You want to
be careful NOT to set up both to use color management during the printing
process.

FWIW, setting the camera to this has no bearing when you shoot raw, only
jpeg.
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Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
http://EdwardGRuf.com
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measekite
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

IF YOU ARE USING GENERIC INK THAT MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM. OEM INK IS
DESIGNED FOR THE PRINTER BY THE PRINTER MFG.

Colin D wrote:

Quote:
"Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!)" wrote:


On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:41:17 +1300, in comp.periphs.printers Colin D
ColinD@killspam.127.0.0.1> wrote:



I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.

The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper. The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.


How have you calibrated your monitor?
--
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
http://EdwardGRuf.com



The monitor self-calibrates for sRGB, and it's not too far from aRGB,
given the gamut of crt monitors. But I don't think the monitor is the
problem, since the print preview obviously is displayed on the same
monitor, but the color difference is visible between the PS image and
the preview image. I would have thought that the preview would look the
same as the PS image.

Aah, perhaps the PS image is wrong, and maybe the preview image doesn't
use the PS settings. I gotta do some more reading. Thanks for the
reply.

Colin D.

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measekite
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

Colin D wrote:

Quote:
measekite wrote:


Colin D wrote:



I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.




THE BEST PLACE TO START IS CANON TECH SUPPORT. THEY KNOW THE SOFTWARE
BETTER THAN ANYONE HERE.



The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper.



I HOPE YOU ARE USING CANON OEM INK



Yep, bci-6 inks only here.



THATS GREAT. LIKE I SAID CANON TECH SUPPORT IS VERY GOOD. IF LEVEL ONE
DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM THEN ASK FOR LEVEL TWO

Quote:
The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

Any ideas welcome.

Colin D.



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Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:41:17 +1300, in comp.periphs.printers Colin D
<ColinD@killspam.127.0.0.1> wrote:

Quote:
I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.

The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper. The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

What application are you printing from?
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Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
http://EdwardGRuf.com
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Frank
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

Jon O'Brien wrote:

Quote:
In article <5aabf.9187$BZ5.4102@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com (measekite the one-trick pony) suggested something
inane (again):

A new form of madness from the madness-meister himself. Now third-party
inks can affect your print *previews* as well as mess up your printer!

You couldn't make this stuff up.

Jon.
hehehehe...he does!

Frank
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Colin D
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

"Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!)" wrote:
Quote:

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:41:17 +1300, in comp.periphs.printers Colin D
ColinD@killspam.127.0.0.1> wrote:

I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.

The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper. The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

What application are you printing from?
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Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 (Usenet2@EdwardG.Ruf.com)
http://EdwardGRuf.com

PS = Photoshop 6.

Colin D.
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Frank
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

Colin D wrote:
Quote:
I'm having a bit of trouble with my printer software, and don't quite
know where to look for the solution. The printer is a Canon i9950 -
same as the i9900 but with the CD printing option.

The image was shot with a 300D, RAW, set for Adobe 1998 color space,
imported into PS as Adobe 1998 and color-balanced etc, then printed on
the i9950. However, print preview shows the image as bluer than the PS
image, and it prints bluer on paper. The print is a good match for the
preview image, but not the PS image.

Any ideas welcome.

Colin D.

It almost sounds as if you're trying to print using two different icc
profiles. One from the software, PS 6 and the other from the printer,
the i9900.
Check and see and if you are turn off one of them.
Frank
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Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: CANON PREVIEW BLUER THAN PS IMAGE Reply with quote

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 17:30:00 +1300, in comp.periphs.printers Colin D
<ColinD@killspam.127.0.0.1> wrote:

Quote:
PS = Photoshop 6.

OK, so how is color management setup in PS? Additionally are you choosing
to use ICC profiles in the driver? You should use ICC profiles for the
paper/ink combo in one or the other, but not both.

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http://EdwardGRuf.com
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