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drc023
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:43 am Post subject:
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"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:OQocf.17316$dO2.1479@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
| Quote: | IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE HP, EPSON, AND CANON PRINTERS AND
THE PERCENTAGE OF ALL OF THE DOLLARS SPENT ON OEM INK COMPARED TO THE
TOTAL YOU WILL FIND THAT THE VERY VAST MAJORITY USE OEM INK. IF THIS WAS
NOT SO THEN THE PRICE OF PRINTERS WOULD HAVE TO BE HIGHER, ESPECIALLY
EPSON. THESE ARE THE SMART ONES.
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For once you actually said something that made sense. The price of printers
is artificially low as a way of getting the product to the consumer and as a
result sell the consumables at grossly inflated prices. I have no problem
with that since it means I can get the latest model printer I want at a dirt
cheap price and then refill the cartridges with high quality bulk ink for a
tiny fraction of the cost of OEM consumables. Note: I did not say third
party ink tanks or cartridges since those are still more expensive than
buying quality bulk ink, i.e. Formulabs, HobbiColors (don't know who makes
it, but it is very good ink), Image Specialists, MIS, etc...
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Ron |
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measekite
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:32 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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drc023 wrote:
| Quote: | "measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:OQocf.17316$dO2.1479@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
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IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE HP, EPSON, AND CANON PRINTERS AND
THE PERCENTAGE OF ALL OF THE DOLLARS SPENT ON OEM INK COMPARED TO THE
TOTAL YOU WILL FIND THAT THE VERY VAST MAJORITY USE OEM INK. IF THIS WAS
NOT SO THEN THE PRICE OF PRINTERS WOULD HAVE TO BE HIGHER, ESPECIALLY
EPSON. THESE ARE THE SMART ONES.
For once you actually said something that made sense. The price of printers
is artificially low as a way of getting the product to the consumer and as a
result sell the consumables at grossly inflated prices. I have no problem
with that since it means I can get the latest model printer I want at a dirt
cheap price and then refill the cartridges with high quality
YOU WILL NEVER KNOW AFTER YOU ENDURE THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF |
REFILLING IF YOU ARE GETTING ANY KIND OF QUALITY BECAUSE THE VENDORS
WILL NOT TELL YOU WHAT YOU ARE GETTING.
| Quote: | bulk ink for a
tiny fraction of the cost of OEM consumables. Note: I did not say third
party ink tanks or cartridges since those are still more expensive than
buying quality bulk ink, i.e. Formulabs, HobbiColors (don't know who makes
it, but it is very good ink), Image Specialists, MIS, etc...
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measekite
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:32 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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*U SHUT UP DUMBASS*
Ron Shaw wrote:
| Quote: | No, dumbass. YOU name one (or shutup).
In article <GOocf.17315$dO2.8870@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
JUST FOLLOW ALL OF THE POSTS
Ron Shaw wrote:
In article <sufcf.25435$6e1.3648@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
IT CLOGS MANY PEOPLES PRINTERS
Name one.
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zakezuke
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:59 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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| Quote: | measekite said: snipped per request
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You'll never know if this is true unless you actually bought some...
and just like you were wrong about there being NO prefilled cartridges
that disclose who manufactured it you are also wrong about there being
no bulk ink vender that will disclose what they are selling.
"All U-INK™ Refill Kits for Canon, sold after 10/9/2004, include a 1
year VIP Discount Code. Your VIP number entitles you to 10% OFF future
purchases of everything we sell. Inks manufactured in the United States
for WeInk, LLC by Image Specialists, Inc. USA"
http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/for_canon_324823_products.htm
I do not understand this insanity of yours. First you say you can't
get prefilled cartridges from anyone who will disclose what they are
using only bulk ink. Now your saying you can only get prefilled
cartridges with the manufactured disclosed. Guess what... it's EASIER
to find places that'll disclose the manufactured.
Let's see what you said in the past about weink
measekite Jun 5, 6:15 pm 2005
"The do not disclose on their website that I can see what they refill
the
carts they are selling. If they do provide me with the link. They do
say they sell Sensinent inks in bulk. I have heard Sensinent is about
the only company that formulates decent ink but I have only hear that
from a few members of the AfterMarket Church; two of those members are
singled out by you below. "
So you lied once again... way to go measekite! |
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drc023
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:29 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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Zake,
I only have one problem with your price comparisons. You constantly quote
non-OEM ink in the $300/gallon range. It is far less expensive than that.
Gallon bottles can be less than $100. Eight ounce bottles are frequently in
the $10 to $16 range.
--
Ron
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131563952.857233.21800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | i think they should charge 1/2 the price for the ink and
they could increase the price of the printer by 15%
I have no idea what the actual cost to produce a single printer is.
But if a 15% increase keeps their head above water and I had my choice
between $1500/gal OEM ink, $750 to $300/gal aftermarket I wouldn't be
unhappy at all.
Good idea measekite.
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zakezuke
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:37 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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| Quote: | Zake,
I only have one problem with your price comparisons. You constantly quote
non-OEM ink in the $300/gallon range. It is far less expensive than that.
Gallon bottles can be less than $100. Eight ounce bottles are frequently in
the $10 to $16 range.
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Valid enough point... I base $300/gal on buying in 2oz at a time, which
is typicaly 2.50/oz give our take on that level. Your right I should
be more clear. |
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drc023
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:53 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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drc023 wrote:
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:OQocf.17316$dO2.1479@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
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IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE HP, EPSON, AND CANON PRINTERS
AND THE PERCENTAGE OF ALL OF THE DOLLARS SPENT ON OEM INK COMPARED TO THE
TOTAL YOU WILL FIND THAT THE VERY VAST MAJORITY USE OEM INK. IF THIS WAS
NOT SO THEN THE PRICE OF PRINTERS WOULD HAVE TO BE HIGHER, ESPECIALLY
EPSON. THESE ARE THE SMART ONES.
For once you actually said something that made sense. The price of
printers is artificially low as a way of getting the product to the
consumer and as a result sell the consumables at grossly inflated prices.
I have no problem with that since it means I can get the latest model
printer I want at a dirt cheap price and then refill the cartridges with
high quality
YOU WILL NEVER KNOW AFTER YOU ENDURE THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF
REFILLING IF YOU ARE GETTING ANY KIND OF QUALITY BECAUSE THE VENDORS WILL
NOT TELL YOU WHAT YOU ARE GETTING.
bulk ink for a tiny fraction of the cost of OEM consumables. Note: I did
not say third party ink tanks or cartridges since those are still more
expensive than buying quality bulk ink, i.e. Formulabs, HobbiColors (don't
know who makes it, but it is very good ink), Image Specialists, MIS,
etc...
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Since you've never tried refilling, how do you know that it's messy? (of
course you could say the same thing about sex or holding a job, both of
which you've never had) Fact: Refilling a BCI-6 tank is not at all messy.
The process takes about one minute from start to finish, maybe a little
longer if you are really slow.
You say that you don't know who makes the ink. I specifically mentioned
Formulabs and Image Specialists. Since those are the manufacturers, I do
believe that even you should be able to figure out that one. You also know
very well that www.alotofthings.com states on the first page of their web
site that all bulk ink they sell is manufactured by Sensient-Formulabs.
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Ron |
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Nervous Norvis
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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In article <OFzcf.25639$6e1.17522@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
| Quote: | PUT A GALLON IN ME ALAN
Jesus! A 1957 quote from Measley, who says we are old farts! |
I assumed he was 8 years old, based on his 3rd grade insults. Now I've
got to guess he's 60 years old (but still in third grade). |
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Ron Shaw
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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*U SHUT UP DUMBASS* is the name of the poster who got a clog????
Do you think this is a version of "Who's on First"?
Come on, seriously ... who got a clog? I've been reading this newsgroup
for a year, and I don't remember anybody (except you, who doesn't use
refill ink) saying they got a clog from any of the non-OEM vendors
talked about on this group. Go ahead, name a name. Prove you're not
making this all up.
In article <LGvcf.17514$dO2.7824@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
| Quote: | *U SHUT UP DUMBASS*
Ron Shaw wrote:
No, dumbass. YOU name one (or shutup).
In article <GOocf.17315$dO2.8870@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
JUST FOLLOW ALL OF THE POSTS
Ron Shaw wrote:
Name one.
In article <sufcf.25435$6e1.3648@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
IT CLOGS MANY PEOPLES PRINTERS |
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Ron Shaw
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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In article <%Ezcf.25638$6e1.11898@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
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WHY WOULD A BUNCH OF MORONS CARRY ON A CONVERSATION OVER MANY DAYS ON
HOW TO GET PRINTER INK OFF THEIR CARPETS. BUYING CANON OEM, EPSON OEM,
OR HP OEM ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS.
Fool, the guy who had ink on his carpet got it by moving a printer with |
full overflow pads. No mention of refilling or non-OEM cartridges. |
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measekite
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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drc023 wrote:
| Quote: | "measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:3Gvcf.17512$dO2.17212@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
drc023 wrote:
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
news:OQocf.17316$dO2.1479@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
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IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE HP, EPSON, AND CANON PRINTERS
AND THE PERCENTAGE OF ALL OF THE DOLLARS SPENT ON OEM INK COMPARED TO THE
TOTAL YOU WILL FIND THAT THE VERY VAST MAJORITY USE OEM INK. IF THIS WAS
NOT SO THEN THE PRICE OF PRINTERS WOULD HAVE TO BE HIGHER, ESPECIALLY
EPSON. THESE ARE THE SMART ONES.
For once you actually said something that made sense. The price of
printers is artificially low as a way of getting the product to the
consumer and as a result sell the consumables at grossly inflated prices.
I have no problem with that since it means I can get the latest model
printer I want at a dirt cheap price and then refill the cartridges with
high quality
YOU WILL NEVER KNOW AFTER YOU ENDURE THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF
REFILLING IF YOU ARE GETTING ANY KIND OF QUALITY BECAUSE THE VENDORS WILL
NOT TELL YOU WHAT YOU ARE GETTING.
bulk ink for a tiny fraction of the cost of OEM consumables. Note: I did
not say third party ink tanks or cartridges since those are still more
expensive than buying quality bulk ink, i.e. Formulabs, HobbiColors (don't
know who makes it, but it is very good ink), Image Specialists, MIS,
etc...
Since you've never tried refilling, how do you know that it's messy?
WHY WOULD A BUNCH OF MORONS CARRY ON A CONVERSATION OVER MANY DAYS ON |
HOW TO GET PRINTER INK OFF THEIR CARPETS. BUYING CANON OEM, EPSON OEM,
OR HP OEM ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS.
| Quote: | (of
course you could say the same thing about sex or holding a job, both of
which you've never had) Fact: Refilling a BCI-6 tank is not at all messy.
UNTRUE |
| Quote: | The process takes about one minute from start to finish,
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THE INK OFF THE CARPET |
| Quote: | maybe a little
longer if you are really slow.
YOU GOOTA BE SLOW BETWEEN THE EARS |
| Quote: | You say that you don't know who makes the ink. I specifically mentioned
Formulabs
MOST WILL NOT TELL YOU IF THEY USE IT. |
| Quote: | and Image Specialists.
THEY ARE NOT A BRAND |
| Quote: | Since those are the manufacturers, I do
believe that even you should be able to figure out that one. You also know
very well that www.alotofthings.com states on the first page of their web
site that all bulk ink
I WOULD NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. I DO NOT THINK THEY ARE |
PROFESSIONAL. THEY DO NOT TELL YOU WHAT THEY USE IN THEIR PREFILLED CARTS.
| Quote: | they sell is manufactured by Sensient-Formulabs.
NOT IN THEIR PREFILLED CARTS. THEY ALSO HAVE A TERRIBLE WEBSITE WHERE |
IT IS DIFFICULT TO TELL WHAT YOU GET.
88INKJETS DISCLOSE MORE INFORMATION. |
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measekite
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | measekite said: snipped per request
You'll never know if this is true unless you actually bought some...
and just like you were wrong about there being NO prefilled cartridges
that
THEY JUST STARTED DISCLOSING THAT FACT ON THEIR WEBSITE. THAT IS WHAT |
THEY TOLD ME. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO DO THAT.
| Quote: | disclose who manufactured it you are also wrong about there being
no bulk ink vender that will disclose what they are selling.
SNIP |
| Quote: | I do not understand this insanity of yours. First you say you can't
get prefilled cartridges from anyone who will disclose what they are
using only bulk ink. Now your saying you can only get prefilled
cartridges with the manufactured disclosed. Guess what... it's EASIER
to find places that'll disclose the manufactured.
measekite Jun 5, 6:15 pm 2005
"The do not disclose on their website that I can see what they refill
the
carts they are selling. If they do provide me with the link. They do
say they sell Sensinent inks in bulk. I have heard Sensinent is about
the only company that formulates decent ink but I have only hear that
from a few members of the AfterMarket Church; two of those members are
singled out by you below. "
SNIP
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measekite
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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PUT A GALLON IN ME ALAN
zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Zake,
I only have one problem with your price comparisons. You constantly quote
non-OEM ink in the $300/gallon range. It is far less expensive than that.
Gallon bottles can be less than $100. Eight ounce bottles are frequently in
the $10 to $16 range.
Valid enough point... I base $300/gal on buying in 2oz at a time, which
is typicaly 2.50/oz give our take on that level. Your right I should
be more clear.
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zakezuke
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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| Quote: | Measkite said: Brand crap
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Righto... You say Formulabs is a brand yet Image Specalists is not.
What about OCP? |
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zakezuke
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: 4x6 Kirkland Photo paper |
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measekite said: sorry guys I have to quote this.
| Quote: | THEY JUST STARTED DISCLOSING THAT FACT ON THEIR WEBSITE. THAT IS
WHAT THEY TOLD ME. THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO DO THAT.
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This is a lie Lucky for me you spell worse than I do. Let's see what
you said about 88inkjets in march
measekite Mar 24, 6:01 pm 2005
"And you can get Formulabs ink from a source that provides information.
Information is service. People who say in writing what you get.
Goto
http://www.88inkjets.com/
Compare their website to alotofcrap. They do not discourage you from
placing phone orders. They disclose what they sell on their website
and
it is clear. They provide toll free numbers and numerous email
contacts for different purposes. Look at both sites and evaluate the
companies. You compare and then judge if you want to do business with
Mickey Mouse or a professional company.. "
So you say they "just" added this information recently? Then why is it
you knew about them 6 months ago... pretended you were unaware they
disclosed what ink they use... and now are trying to cover your ass by
saying they changed their site? Let's face facts. You lied... as you
always do.
And what's really sad, what's mega mega sad is 6 months ago your
complaint was these webbies were not professional companies.... yet
when presented with links to multi-national corporations, huge guys
that have been involved in ink paper and printing for longer than there
have been ink jet printers... you don't like them either. You sir are
nuts. |
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