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Ajanta
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmick? Reply with quote

I am looking for a B&W personal laser printer for home use on a mac.

Not much volume but would still like decent paper handling, cost per
page, small footprint and low noise (it would sit right on my desk).

Is duplex a useful feature or just a gimmick?

A recent thread appeared to recommend Brother 5240 (basic) and 5250DN
(duplex and networking). The price difference between them is not huge,
I think $20, so no big deal. How do they compare against the offerings
from HP and Samsung?

Thanks for all the input.

BTW, I posted another question about which online price comparison
services are best. That reminds me, Brother 5250DN shows up as 'ships
next day' on Shopzilla, 'not yet released' on Amazon, and does not even
show up on Pricegrabber as of this morning. What is your expereince
with these sites?
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John Beardmore
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

In message <041120051308376112%ajanta@null.void>, Ajanta
<ajanta@null.void> writes

Quote:
Is duplex a useful feature or just a gimmick?

That depends entirely on you.

I used to print a lot of multi page documents for postage. Duplex saved
paper cost, environmental impact and postal cost.

If on the other hand, you mostly print simple single sided letters...


Cheers, J/.
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John Beardmore
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

I wish my first laser had duplexing. I can do the duplexing manually,
but it is not convenient. For $20, I'd buy it. For my second laser
printer, duplexing was a "must have".

Paul

Ajanta wrote:
Quote:
I am looking for a B&W personal laser printer for home use on a mac.

Not much volume but would still like decent paper handling, cost per
page, small footprint and low noise (it would sit right on my desk).

Is duplex a useful feature or just a gimmick?

A recent thread appeared to recommend Brother 5240 (basic) and 5250DN
(duplex and networking). The price difference between them is not huge,
I think $20, so no big deal. How do they compare against the offerings
from HP and Samsung?

Thanks for all the input.

BTW, I posted another question about which online price comparison
services are best. That reminds me, Brother 5250DN shows up as 'ships
next day' on Shopzilla, 'not yet released' on Amazon, and does not even
show up on Pricegrabber as of this morning. What is your expereince
with these sites?
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measekite
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:37 am    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

Ajanta wrote:

Quote:
I am looking for a B&W personal laser printer for home use on a mac.

Not much volume but would still like decent paper handling, cost per
page, small footprint and low noise (it would sit right on my desk).

Is duplex a useful feature or just a gimmick?



IT IS A MUST HAVE

Quote:
A recent thread appeared to recommend Brother 5240 (basic) and 5250DN
(duplex and networking). The price difference between them is not huge,
I think $20, so no big deal. How do they compare against the offerings
from HP and Samsung?

Thanks for all the input.

BTW, I posted another question about which online price comparison
services are best. That reminds me, Brother 5250DN shows up as 'ships
next day' on Shopzilla, 'not yet released' on Amazon, and does not even
show up on Pricegrabber as of this morning. What is your expereince
with these sites?

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Ajanta
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

Caitlin <caitlin_online_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:

: What an bizarre question. Like saying 'Is colour printing a gimmick?'
: Do you want duplexing or don't you?

It could be considered a gimicky feature in the following sense: If you
flip the pages yourself, you got 2 sided printing. However, with a BW
printer, you can't get color by any such simple trick.
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Caitlin
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

"Ajanta" <ajanta@null.void> wrote in message
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Quote:
I am looking for a B&W personal laser printer for home use on a mac.

Not much volume but would still like decent paper handling, cost per
page, small footprint and low noise (it would sit right on my desk).

Is duplex a useful feature or just a gimmick?


What an bizarre question. Like saying 'Is colour printing a gimmick?' Do you
want duplexing or don't you?
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Gary Tait
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

"Caitlin" <caitlin_online_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in news:436c2bf4$0
$44197$c30e37c6@ken-reader.news.telstra.net:

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Is duplex a useful feature or just a gimmick

No, it can save paper and labour if properly used.
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Ajanta
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

Gary Tait <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote:

: >> Is duplex a useful feature or just a gimmick
:
: No, it can save paper and labour if properly used.

I should have said "auto duplex". One can achieve the same effect
by turning the pages over oneself.
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Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:57 pm    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

In article <051120051010486322%ajanta@null.void>,
Ajanta <ajanta@null.void> wrote:

Quote:
: >> Is duplex a useful feature or just a gimmick
:
: No, it can save paper and labour if properly used.

I should have said "auto duplex". One can achieve the same effect
by turning the pages over oneself.

If you're printing a single sheet flyer, yes.

But if you're printing a book?

Will you print one at a time?
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Rene Lamontagne
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-382284.11573205112005@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
Quote:
In article <051120051010486322%ajanta@null.void>,
Ajanta <ajanta@null.void> wrote:

: >> Is duplex a useful feature or just a gimmick
:
: No, it can save paper and labour if properly used.

I should have said "auto duplex". One can achieve the same effect
by turning the pages over oneself.

If you're printing a single sheet flyer, yes.

But if you're printing a book?

Will you print one at a time?


No, set up and print all odd pages, Then turn the whole stack over and print
even pages, Voila, double sided book and all in order.
works like a charm on my OKI C5150n Color led printer. I print all my
manuals this way.

Regards, Rene
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John Beardmore
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

In message <051120050151590769%ajanta@null.void>, Ajanta
<ajanta@null.void> writes

Quote:
It could be considered a gimicky feature in the following sense: If you
flip the pages yourself, you got 2 sided printing. However, with a BW
printer, you can't get color by any such simple trick.

Then again, you could always write stuff out by hand !

But seriously, I think there are two issues to consider.

One is that duplexing by hand tends to result in a greater rate of jams
for me.

The other is the time taken to do significant amounts of duplex printing
by hand.


Cheers, J/.
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John Beardmore
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Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

In article <qE5bf.410880$1i.212040@pd7tw2no>,
"Rene Lamontagne" <rlamont@shaw.ca> wrote:

Quote:
Will you print one at a time?


No, set up and print all odd pages, Then turn the whole stack over and print
even pages, Voila, double sided book and all in order.
works like a charm on my OKI C5150n Color led printer. I print all my
manuals this way.

And never have a problem?

An auto-duplexing printer knows when it's had a problem, and if there's
a jam it starts the entire sheet all over again.
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Fred McKenzie
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

In article <051120051010486322%ajanta@null.void>, Nobody wrote:

Quote:
I should have said "auto duplex". One can achieve the same effect
by turning the pages over oneself.

Ajanta-

One problem I have had with manual duplex, is that IF there is a paper jam
halfway through a document, my printer will reprint the jammed page, but
on the next sheet. In other words, the remaining portion of the print job
would be ruined if I didn't abort.

Of course this might be a problem with a duplex printer as well, depending
on how smart it is.

If you are even considering getting duplex, either choose a printer that
can be upgraded or go ahead and get the duplex version now. HP says my
printer can't be upgraded. I suspect it can, but it would be cheaper to
buy a refurbished duplex printer on eBay!

Fred
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Gary Tait
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-782D55.12212205112005@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

Quote:
In article <qE5bf.410880$1i.212040@pd7tw2no>,
"Rene Lamontagne" <rlamont@shaw.ca> wrote:

Will you print one at a time?


No, set up and print all odd pages, Then turn the whole stack over
and print even pages, Voila, double sided book and all in order.
works like a charm on my OKI C5150n Color led printer. I print all my
manuals this way.

And never have a problem?

An auto-duplexing printer knows when it's had a problem, and if
there's a jam it starts the entire sheet all over again.



I've had problems with manual duplexing, inasmuch getting pages in order
and things. I haven't printed much, if anything, out with the auto
duplexer in my Canon IP5000.
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Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: "Best" personal laser printer? I duplex useful or gimmic Reply with quote

In article <fmmck-0511051232080001@ac9cfb90.ipt.aol.com>,
fmmck@aol.com (Fred McKenzie) wrote:

Quote:
One problem I have had with manual duplex, is that IF there is a paper jam
halfway through a document, my printer will reprint the jammed page, but
on the next sheet. In other words, the remaining portion of the print job
would be ruined if I didn't abort.

Of course this might be a problem with a duplex printer as well, depending
on how smart it is.

Nope. If the auto-duplex printer prints one side, flips it, then prints
the other, on a jam it will know that the properly formatted sheet
didn't come out--and it will start over with a clean sheet.
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