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Peter T. Breuer
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:11 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other laptop
and.......nothing.
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You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
| Quote: | Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this at home
without a PC lab?
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Swap with a different HD, or controller.
Peter |
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Guy Kornetzki
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:41 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through the USB
port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have tried
connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't recognised by
any of them.
Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD. Have
taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a USB2.0
External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0 connection).
Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
What do you think everyone?
Thanks,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other
laptop
and.......nothing.
You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this at
home
without a PC lab?
Swap with a different HD, or controller.
Peter |
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TheBurgerMan
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:49 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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My instructions don't involve a second laptop at all. From your note, you
are not even getting the USB device detected pop-up which could indicate
several problems most of which point to USB problems, not necessarily the
hard drive itself.
Like Barry said before, your best bet is to place the drive directly onto
the IDE channel. The best way to do that (and copy the files off) is to
place it in another machine as a second hard drive.
That's what my instructions indicated. If you don't have the tools to do
that (desktop, 2.5 to 3.5 convertor, etc) then you will have to get the USB
working properly.
--
Thanks,
TheBurgerMan
at
gmail.com
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"Guy Kornetzki" <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dkgdlf$pk8$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
| Quote: | Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through the
USB
port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have tried
connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't recognised
by
any of them.
Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD. Have
taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a USB2.0
External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0
connection).
Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
What do you think everyone?
Thanks,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:abos33-hi6.ln1@news.it.uc3m.es...
Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other
laptop
and.......nothing.
You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this at
home
without a PC lab?
Swap with a different HD, or controller.
Peter
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Barry Watzman
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:18 am Post subject:
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It could mean that the HD is bad, but before I'd assume that, I'd test
the enclosure with a known-good hard drive.
The system into which you plug the enclosure should be running Windows
XP. Not 9x (95, 98, 98SE or ME), and not 2000 (although 2000 should work).
No matter what else, you should hear the hard drive "spin up" when you
plug it in. If you don't, the hard drive is either TOTALLY dead, or
it's not getting power. Many of the 2.5" enclosures have one USB plugs
at the end intended for the enclosure, and two plugs (a "Y" cable) at
the other end, intended to let the enclosure get power from two ports
(thus get 1,000 ma if needed, instead of the 500 ma max from a single
port). However, ONLY ONE OF THOSE TWO PLUGS (the one in the "middle")
HAS THE DATA CONNECTION, so it's possible to "plug it in" but it's not
really plugged in.
Guy Kornetzki wrote:
| Quote: | Hi everyone,
Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other laptop
and.......nothing. It's not recognising anything being connected, not even
saying there's a fault with a USB device.
Tried running 'Add Hardware' wizard, still no Plug'n'Play devices detected,
so I proceeded with manual install of whatever I was given. But at the end
of the process got an error message saying: "installation failed because a
function driver was not specified for this device instance".
Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this at home
without a PC lab?
Thanks,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:436B7388.90308@neo.rr.com...
It's very simple, and very inexpensive. However, there are a few things
that you can do with a "real" IDE connection that you cannot do with
USB, although a USB connection is far more convenient and works well for
applications limited to normal data transfer. SMART reporting,
diagnostics and some other functions only work with a direct IDE
connection, however.
Guy Kornetzki wrote:
That's great everyone, thanks a lot for your help.
Will forward the info to my friend, the owner of the damaged laptop, so
he
can decide. But sounds to me like it might be a good idea in general to
get
an IDE to USB cable as an emergency tool to salvage info from
Hard-Drives if
the machine croaks.
Have read about solutions which offer an enclosure for a Hard-Drive; is
it
as simple as slotting a 2.5" Hard-Drive into an empty shell thus turning
it
into a portable external Hard-Drive? Seems to me like this would be the
ideal solution.
Regards,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:436ABD0A.8070701@neo.rr.com...
Yes, remove the hard drive from the computer entirely and either use a
desktop IDE adapter (about $3 to $8) or use a 2.5" IDE to USB laptop
adapter ($10 to $20).
Guy Kornetzki wrote:
Hi,
Can I access data from a Hard-Drive when the laptop can't seem to boot
up?
If I physically remove the Hard-Drive for example, can I connect it to
something and access the data?
Was told at the lab that it may be a motherboard problem, so looks like
quite a serious fault. Hard-Drive seems to spin though when trying to
power
up, but screen is blacked-out; no go with safe-mode nor a recovery CD.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
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Barry Watzman
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:19 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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A driver is not needed for any of the popular USB enclosures (either
2.5" or 3.5") under Windows XP.
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
| Quote: | Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other laptop
and.......nothing.
You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this at home
without a PC lab?
Swap with a different HD, or controller.
Peter |
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:20 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:41:38 -0000, Guy Kornetzki wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play
through the USB port?
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You need no particular drivers for it, so long as USB
works on that machine and its OS.
Should that "other" laptop happen to be operating
on W98 you may have a problem. If it is W95 you
can forget about it altogether.
| Quote: | What do you think everyone?
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I have a 3.5" to 2.5" converter that I have used
quite a few times. More than half of my attempts
have been a bit risky because I have repeatedly
plugged the thing in upside down. The color coding
on my converter goes against C W.
Once you have it plugged in correctly though you
get access to the Bios's "Detect HD´s" which is
*very* helpful. If the Bios can't see it and identify it
properly there is something seriously wrong with it.
Just replacing the HD in another laptop with your
drive is not a good idea. Chances are that even
if the drive as such is OK, it still wont run on a
controller it was not set up on.
Hold the USB enclosure in your hand while running.
If it spins you will feel it. If you can't it is rather dead.
You have not told us much!
What brand HD is it?
How fast should it spin?
How does the USB enclosure get its power?
What brand Laptop do you plug it into?
What OS does that have?
Do other USB devices work there?
Is it USB 1 or 2?
Lars
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Barry Watzman
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:21 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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Guy, if you are using a laptop, you could try putting the possibly bad
laptop into the other laptop (the one to which you are connecting the
USB external case). It won't run "right" and this will mess up the
installed XP if you let it boot, but you could see if the drive spun-up
and was detected and recognized (put a floppy with DOS into the floppy
drive, or a bootable CD into the CD drive, to keep Windows from booting).
Guy Kornetzki wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through the USB
port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have tried
connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't recognised by
any of them.
Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD. Have
taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a USB2.0
External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0 connection).
Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
What do you think everyone?
Thanks,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:abos33-hi6.ln1@news.it.uc3m.es...
Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other
laptop
and.......nothing.
You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this at
home
without a PC lab?
Swap with a different HD, or controller.
Peter
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Peter T. Breuer
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:25 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Peter: what driver do I need?!
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One for whatever your usb-based disk enclosure presents itself as.
Peter |
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Peter T. Breuer
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:28 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:abos33-hi6.ln1@news.it.uc3m.es...
Swap with a different HD, or controller.
What do you mean by "swap controller"
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I meant the enclosure (which contains a disk controller, in one sense,
or a USB device, if you prefer to look at it that way).
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Guy Kornetzki
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:05 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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Wow, first of all let me say it's great to know there are people out there
who are willing to lend a hand in such an unselfish way - thanks everyone.
To satisfy Lars' (justified) thirst for knowledge :) here are more details
about the case:
| Quote: | HD brand is Fujitsu I believe
I don't know the spin speed but it was taken out of a rather old Gericom
laptop
Guess USB enclosure receives power from USB ports using two plugs (as Barry
said; I had no idea why there are two plugs!)
Enclosure was plugged into two different laptops: a Dell and a Fujitsu
Siemens.
Both laptops are running Win XP (Fuji runs Home version and Dell runs Prof)
Both laptops have had no problems with USB devices
Both laptops enjoy USB2.0
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Ok, seems like there are two things to check now: 1) the enclosure 2) the
HD. As the enclosure is brand new, I doubt it's faulty (although it is
possible of course), so the next step is indeed to test the HD itself. In
the current situation I can only do this by physically connecting the HD to
a laptop's IDE. If needs be I would be inclined to follow Barry's suggestion
of running the HD inside one of the "good" laptops as a HD, whilst using a
recovery CD as backup when things go crazy.
As it's quite late in the UK now, I'll probably to this tomorrow; also, need
to update my friend, the owner of this HD, and get his permission to dive
deeper. So if there are any further thoughts/advices until than they are
very welcome.
Once again, I really appreciate it everyone.
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"TheBurgerMan" <TheBurgerMan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:_WOaf.118937$Ph4.3648808@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
| Quote: | My instructions don't involve a second laptop at all. From your note, you
are not even getting the USB device detected pop-up which could indicate
several problems most of which point to USB problems, not necessarily the
hard drive itself.
Like Barry said before, your best bet is to place the drive directly onto
the IDE channel. The best way to do that (and copy the files off) is to
place it in another machine as a second hard drive.
That's what my instructions indicated. If you don't have the tools to do
that (desktop, 2.5 to 3.5 convertor, etc) then you will have to get the
USB
working properly.
--
Thanks,
TheBurgerMan
at
gmail.com
--
"Guy Kornetzki" <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dkgdlf$pk8$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through the
USB
port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have
tried
connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't
recognised
by
any of them.
Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD. Have
taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a USB2.0
External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0
connection).
Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
What do you think everyone?
Thanks,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:abos33-hi6.ln1@news.it.uc3m.es...
Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other
laptop
and.......nothing.
You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this
at
home
without a PC lab?
Swap with a different HD, or controller.
Peter
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Guy Kornetzki
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:09 am Post subject:
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Sorry, forgot to mention that I CAN hear HD spinning inside the enclosure,
so I guess this means it's at least powering up and working.
More soon.
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Guy Kornetzki" <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dkgt1u$evs$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
| Quote: | Wow, first of all let me say it's great to know there are people out there
who are willing to lend a hand in such an unselfish way - thanks everyone.
To satisfy Lars' (justified) thirst for knowledge :) here are more details
about the case:
HD brand is Fujitsu I believe
I don't know the spin speed but it was taken out of a rather old Gericom
laptop
Guess USB enclosure receives power from USB ports using two plugs (as
Barry
said; I had no idea why there are two plugs!)
Enclosure was plugged into two different laptops: a Dell and a Fujitsu
Siemens.
Both laptops are running Win XP (Fuji runs Home version and Dell runs
Prof)
Both laptops have had no problems with USB devices
Both laptops enjoy USB2.0
Ok, seems like there are two things to check now: 1) the enclosure 2) the
HD. As the enclosure is brand new, I doubt it's faulty (although it is
possible of course), so the next step is indeed to test the HD itself. In
the current situation I can only do this by physically connecting the HD
to
a laptop's IDE. If needs be I would be inclined to follow Barry's
suggestion
of running the HD inside one of the "good" laptops as a HD, whilst using a
recovery CD as backup when things go crazy.
As it's quite late in the UK now, I'll probably to this tomorrow; also,
need
to update my friend, the owner of this HD, and get his permission to dive
deeper. So if there are any further thoughts/advices until than they are
very welcome.
Once again, I really appreciate it everyone.
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"TheBurgerMan" <TheBurgerMan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:_WOaf.118937$Ph4.3648808@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
My instructions don't involve a second laptop at all. From your note,
you
are not even getting the USB device detected pop-up which could indicate
several problems most of which point to USB problems, not necessarily
the
hard drive itself.
Like Barry said before, your best bet is to place the drive directly
onto
the IDE channel. The best way to do that (and copy the files off) is to
place it in another machine as a second hard drive.
That's what my instructions indicated. If you don't have the tools to
do
that (desktop, 2.5 to 3.5 convertor, etc) then you will have to get the
USB
working properly.
--
Thanks,
TheBurgerMan
at
gmail.com
--
"Guy Kornetzki" <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dkgdlf$pk8$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through
the
USB
port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have
tried
connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't
recognised
by
any of them.
Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD.
Have
taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a
USB2.0
External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0
connection).
Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
What do you think everyone?
Thanks,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:abos33-hi6.ln1@news.it.uc3m.es...
Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the
other
laptop
and.......nothing.
You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check
this
at
home
without a PC lab?
Swap with a different HD, or controller.
Peter
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:22 am Post subject:
Re: Data from damaged machine |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:18:28 GMT, Barry Watzman wrote:
| Quote: | The system into which you plug the enclosure should be
running Windows XP. Not 9x (95, 98, 98SE or ME), and
not 2000 (although 2000 should work).
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Of course it works with W2K! What on earth makes you
think otherwise?
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Barry Watzman
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:37 am Post subject:
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You might be using the wrong USB plug. If the cord has two plugs on the
far end, only one of them has the USB data lines connected, the other
one is POWER ONLY. If you plug in only one of them to a live USB port,
it matters which one you plug in. And only very rarely is it necessary
to plug in both of them.
Guy Kornetzki wrote:
| Quote: | Wow, first of all let me say it's great to know there are people out there
who are willing to lend a hand in such an unselfish way - thanks everyone.
To satisfy Lars' (justified) thirst for knowledge :) here are more details
about the case:
HD brand is Fujitsu I believe
I don't know the spin speed but it was taken out of a rather old Gericom
laptop
Guess USB enclosure receives power from USB ports using two plugs (as Barry
said; I had no idea why there are two plugs!)
Enclosure was plugged into two different laptops: a Dell and a Fujitsu
Siemens.
Both laptops are running Win XP (Fuji runs Home version and Dell runs Prof)
Both laptops have had no problems with USB devices
Both laptops enjoy USB2.0
Ok, seems like there are two things to check now: 1) the enclosure 2) the
HD. As the enclosure is brand new, I doubt it's faulty (although it is
possible of course), so the next step is indeed to test the HD itself. In
the current situation I can only do this by physically connecting the HD to
a laptop's IDE. If needs be I would be inclined to follow Barry's suggestion
of running the HD inside one of the "good" laptops as a HD, whilst using a
recovery CD as backup when things go crazy.
As it's quite late in the UK now, I'll probably to this tomorrow; also, need
to update my friend, the owner of this HD, and get his permission to dive
deeper. So if there are any further thoughts/advices until than they are
very welcome.
Once again, I really appreciate it everyone.
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"TheBurgerMan" <TheBurgerMan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:_WOaf.118937$Ph4.3648808@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
My instructions don't involve a second laptop at all. From your note, you
are not even getting the USB device detected pop-up which could indicate
several problems most of which point to USB problems, not necessarily the
hard drive itself.
Like Barry said before, your best bet is to place the drive directly onto
the IDE channel. The best way to do that (and copy the files off) is to
place it in another machine as a second hard drive.
That's what my instructions indicated. If you don't have the tools to do
that (desktop, 2.5 to 3.5 convertor, etc) then you will have to get the
USB
working properly.
--
Thanks,
TheBurgerMan
at
gmail.com
--
"Guy Kornetzki" <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dkgdlf$pk8$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through the
USB
port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have
tried
connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't
recognised
by
any of them.
Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD. Have
taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a USB2.0
External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0
connection).
Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
What do you think everyone?
Thanks,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:abos33-hi6.ln1@news.it.uc3m.es...
Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other
laptop
and.......nothing.
You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this
at
home
without a PC lab?
Swap with a different HD, or controller.
Peter
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Guy Kornetzki
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:06 am Post subject:
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Gentlemen, may I declare this a VICTORY of men!! :)
Following Barry's advice I swapped USB plugs around and immediately the
laptop recognised the USB enclosure, installed it and I now seem to have
full access!
I don't know what to say except repeating myself like an broken record:
thanks everyone for all your help; it's safe to say I would not have done it
without you. I know it's just a silly HD problem, but I guess I'm just a
softy for the human spirit and a bit of the old team work. Call me a
sentimental fool :) but I think it's really great.
A special thanks to Barry of course, for stating the obvious perhaps, yet
I'd prefer to call it covering all bases.
Now let's see if the rest of my plan, transferring the guy's data to his new
laptop will work ;)
Good night and thanks again.
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:436BFEC1.2060702@neo.rr.com...
| Quote: | You might be using the wrong USB plug. If the cord has two plugs on the
far end, only one of them has the USB data lines connected, the other
one is POWER ONLY. If you plug in only one of them to a live USB port,
it matters which one you plug in. And only very rarely is it necessary
to plug in both of them.
Guy Kornetzki wrote:
Wow, first of all let me say it's great to know there are people out
there
who are willing to lend a hand in such an unselfish way - thanks
everyone.
To satisfy Lars' (justified) thirst for knowledge :) here are more
details
about the case:
HD brand is Fujitsu I believe
I don't know the spin speed but it was taken out of a rather old Gericom
laptop
Guess USB enclosure receives power from USB ports using two plugs (as
Barry
said; I had no idea why there are two plugs!)
Enclosure was plugged into two different laptops: a Dell and a Fujitsu
Siemens.
Both laptops are running Win XP (Fuji runs Home version and Dell runs
Prof)
Both laptops have had no problems with USB devices
Both laptops enjoy USB2.0
Ok, seems like there are two things to check now: 1) the enclosure 2)
the
HD. As the enclosure is brand new, I doubt it's faulty (although it is
possible of course), so the next step is indeed to test the HD itself.
In
the current situation I can only do this by physically connecting the HD
to
a laptop's IDE. If needs be I would be inclined to follow Barry's
suggestion
of running the HD inside one of the "good" laptops as a HD, whilst using
a
recovery CD as backup when things go crazy.
As it's quite late in the UK now, I'll probably to this tomorrow; also,
need
to update my friend, the owner of this HD, and get his permission to
dive
deeper. So if there are any further thoughts/advices until than they are
very welcome.
Once again, I really appreciate it everyone.
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"TheBurgerMan" <TheBurgerMan@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:_WOaf.118937$Ph4.3648808@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
My instructions don't involve a second laptop at all. From your note,
you
are not even getting the USB device detected pop-up which could indicate
several problems most of which point to USB problems, not necessarily
the
hard drive itself.
Like Barry said before, your best bet is to place the drive directly
onto
the IDE channel. The best way to do that (and copy the files off) is to
place it in another machine as a second hard drive.
That's what my instructions indicated. If you don't have the tools to
do
that (desktop, 2.5 to 3.5 convertor, etc) then you will have to get the
USB
working properly.
--
Thanks,
TheBurgerMan
at
gmail.com
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"Guy Kornetzki" <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dkgdlf$pk8$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
Hi Peter: what driver do I need?! Thought it was plug'n'play through
the
USB
port? What do you mean by "swap controller", you mean USB port? Have
tried
connecting enclosure to two separate laptops and the HD wasn't
recognised
by
any of them.
Hi BurgerMan: unless I misunderstood you, seems like you may have
misunderstood me: am using a laptop NOT a desktop to access the HD.
Have
taken the 2.5" HD from the damaged laptop and inserted it into a USB2.0
External Enclosure (making it into an external HD with a USB2.0
connection).
Can't see what you mean than by your instructions.
What do you think everyone?
Thanks,
~ ~ ~
GuyKo.
"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:abos33-hi6.ln1@news.it.uc3m.es...
Guy Kornetzki <newsgrp@kornetzki.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Well I got the enclosure, popped-in the HD, connected it to the other
laptop
and.......nothing.
You need a driver first! Check that you have one.
Any ideas? Does this mean the HD may be faulty? How can I check this
at
home
without a PC lab?
Swap with a different HD, or controller.
Peter
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 01:06:46 -0000, Guy Kornetzki wrote:
| Quote: | Gentlemen, may I declare this a VICTORY of men!! :)
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Good news Guy!
A fine example of the power of Usenet.
Figure out a good group to post in.
Come up with a good subject line.
Explain you problem in about 10 - 15 lines.
Chances are ten to one that someone else has
run into something similar before, and can help
you along pinning it down.
Post a follow-up with the solution and thank you.
Nice to see, everybody!
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