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Doug
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject:
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Spaceman, are you getting an Xbox 360? Once you get it I hope you post some
comments on how games run on it (action games of course).
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"Spaceman" <sonofzeus26@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Are you kidding? I'll have a system with a video card in it that is more
advanced than an X1800XT and 7800GTX both, for 299.00 on Nov. 22nd.
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John Lewis
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject:
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:38:06 GMT, "Spaceman" <sonofzeus26@hotmail.com>
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Are you kidding? I'll have a system with a video card in it that is more
advanced than an X1800XT and 7800GTX both, for 299.00 on Nov. 22nd.
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You mean of course the Xbox360..........wrong......... the Xbox360 GPU
is a R520-style clocking at X1800XL rate... 500MHz. Plus there is
going to be a very interesting shortage of decent software choices for
quite a while --- unless you like EA Sports. And at $299, you will not
be able to play any original Xbox games on it either - you need the
hard-disk to store the Xbox 'emulation profiles'. Hope that you have
at least a year's full- replacement warranty. And remember to keep ALL
the ventilation holes clear and always free of lint and dust.
Be very, very glad that you are not one of the rich dummies that went
for any of the big games-bundles. They are going to be really pi**ed
when they open the box and a bunch of redeemable coupons flutter out,
or they get the dreaded Gamestop or EB notifications:--
" GameStop.com reserves the right to substitute any given game in a
bundle if that game becomes unavailable at launch. If this occurs, you
will be notified and given the option of canceling your order before
launch. "
EB:-
"In the unlikely event we need to modify the software or accessory
selections, we will notify you at least 48 hours in advance, giving
you an opportunity to cancel. "
..... canceling the order means canceling the WHOLE order. Gamestop
doesn't care, they'll just rebundle (or unbundle) the Xbox360 and ship
it to the next sucker in the shortage queue. Puppets on a
supply-shortage string. The Xbox360 is on a strict first-come first
serve allocation, and the shortfall on advance orders is now expected
to be around 1 million units missing pre-Christmas delivery. The Ebay
parasites will have a great feeding time on the 'must-have-before-
Christmas' rich suckers.
John Lewis
- Technology early-birds are flying guinea-pigs. |
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First of One
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:59 am Post subject:
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Sapphire always had a two-year warranty, back when ATi had three years.
Sapphire didn't follow ATi's lead back then, what makes you think it will
follow ATi now?
You are also forgetting Visiontek offers a lifetime warranty on all its ATi
cards. Quite ironic that Visiontek used to be a large nVidia reference board
mfr.
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"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
| Quote: | "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:436aec4d.15268079@news.verizon.net...
Unless they follow ATi's lead on their own boards ( built by
Sapphire?) where warranties have recently been reduced to
1 year across the complete product line.
Seems as if ATi don't trust their own silicon to hold together and
maybe their partners might not like to take the risk of longer
warranties if ATi themselves are nor prepared to do so.
The opposite of what many nVidia partners like eVGA and BFG
are offering -- lifetime warranties. |
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Kroagnon
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject:
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"NightSky 421" <nightsky421@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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| Quote: | And the Sapphire X1800XL is in stock at $389.
FWIW, I have seen the Sapphire X1800XL show up at one local retailer here
in Edmonton, Alberta for $580 plus sales tax. For comparison's sake, a
7800GT typically sells for $460 to $480, and a 7800GTX sells for about
$660. It should be interesting to see how much the X1800XT will sell for
up here. Anyone know how much warranty Sapphire is offering on the
X1800XL?
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What's cool is that they have an AGP version of the 256 meg board. Hopefully
they will make a 512MB version. Would really help us who spent a load of
cash on top of the line AGP system before PCI Express came out. |
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NightSky 421
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject:
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"Kroagnon" <kroagnon@kroagnon.com> wrote in message
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What's cool is that they have an AGP version of the 256 meg board.
Hopefully they will make a 512MB version. Would really help us who spent a
load of cash on top of the line AGP system before PCI Express came out.
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This is true, but I have to wonder how much the CPU would be holding back
such cards. For example, I bought my 2.8GHz P4 (Northwood C) a little over
two years ago and the CPU by itself (retail Intel box) cost me $450 Canadian
(plus sales tax). There are guys who would even spend more than that on a
CPU, but at the time of my purchase, it was very much a high-end processor.
If I'd wanted a 3.0GHz or 3.2GHz processor back then, I would have ended up
paying an extra $200 and $450 respectively. I'm sure someone with an Athlon
64 with an AGP slot would be faring better than me with regards to feeding
an uber video card, but for a lot of AGP-based system owners, the CPU has to
be a question mark at this point.
Thanks to the other posters for the info! |
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First of One
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:10 am Post subject:
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I got a 9800Pro (overclocked 10%) and I need to run Quake 4 at 800x600 no AA
to get smooth framerates. A more comfortable resolution like 1280x1024, with
4x AA, would require 12 times the fillrate. So a X1800XT would definitely
help. It is always possible to bring a video card to its knees...
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"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
"NightSky 421" <nightsky421@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:11mp84g5a16bcc7@corp.supernews.com...
| Quote: | This is true, but I have to wonder how much the CPU would be holding back
such cards. For example, I bought my 2.8GHz P4 (Northwood C) a little
over two years ago and the CPU by itself (retail Intel box) cost me $450
Canadian (plus sales tax). There are guys who would even spend more than
that on a CPU, but at the time of my purchase, it was very much a high-end
processor. If I'd wanted a 3.0GHz or 3.2GHz processor back then, I would
have ended up paying an extra $200 and $450 respectively. I'm sure
someone with an Athlon 64 with an AGP slot would be faring better than me
with regards to feeding an uber video card, but for a lot of AGP-based
system owners, the CPU has to be a question mark at this point. |
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Paul Goodhew
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:56 am Post subject:
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John Lewis wrote in message <436b978e.7731830@news.verizon.net>...
| Quote: | On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:38:06 GMT, "Spaceman" <sonofzeus26@hotmail.com
wrote:
Are you kidding? I'll have a system with a video card in it that is more
advanced than an X1800XT and 7800GTX both, for 299.00 on Nov. 22nd.
You mean of course the Xbox360..........wrong......... the Xbox360 GPU
is a R520-style clocking at X1800XL rate... 500MHz. Plus there is
going to be a very interesting shortage of decent software choices for
quite a while --- unless you like EA Sports. And at $299, you will not
be able to play any original Xbox games on it either - you need the
hard-disk to store the Xbox 'emulation profiles'. Hope that you have
at least a year's full- replacement warranty. And remember to keep ALL
the ventilation holes clear and always free of lint and dust.
Be very, very glad that you are not one of the rich dummies that went
for any of the big games-bundles. They are going to be really pi**ed
when they open the box and a bunch of redeemable coupons flutter out,
or they get the dreaded Gamestop or EB notifications:--
" GameStop.com reserves the right to substitute any given game in a
bundle if that game becomes unavailable at launch. If this occurs, you
will be notified and given the option of canceling your order before
launch. "
EB:-
"In the unlikely event we need to modify the software or accessory
selections, we will notify you at least 48 hours in advance, giving
you an opportunity to cancel. "
.... canceling the order means canceling the WHOLE order. Gamestop
doesn't care, they'll just rebundle (or unbundle) the Xbox360 and ship
it to the next sucker in the shortage queue. Puppets on a
supply-shortage string. The Xbox360 is on a strict first-come first
serve allocation, and the shortfall on advance orders is now expected
to be around 1 million units missing pre-Christmas delivery. The Ebay
parasites will have a great feeding time on the 'must-have-before-
Christmas' rich suckers.
John Lewis
- Technology early-birds are flying guinea-pigs.
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you obviously have a shit computer and like to make yourself feel better by
making posts like this.
poor sad man. |
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John Lewis
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:26 am Post subject:
Re: ATi X1800XT 512Meg spotted at Newegg @ $599........... |
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:56:39 +1000, "Paul Goodhew"
<Paul.Goodhew@TW.com> wrote:
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John Lewis wrote in message <436b978e.7731830@news.verizon.net>...
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:38:06 GMT, "Spaceman" <sonofzeus26@hotmail.com
wrote:
Are you kidding? I'll have a system with a video card in it that is more
advanced than an X1800XT and 7800GTX both, for 299.00 on Nov. 22nd.
You mean of course the Xbox360..........wrong......... the Xbox360 GPU
is a R520-style clocking at X1800XL rate... 500MHz. Plus there is
going to be a very interesting shortage of decent software choices for
quite a while --- unless you like EA Sports. And at $299, you will not
be able to play any original Xbox games on it either - you need the
hard-disk to store the Xbox 'emulation profiles'. Hope that you have
at least a year's full- replacement warranty. And remember to keep ALL
the ventilation holes clear and always free of lint and dust.
Be very, very glad that you are not one of the rich dummies that went
for any of the big games-bundles. They are going to be really pi**ed
when they open the box and a bunch of redeemable coupons flutter out,
or they get the dreaded Gamestop or EB notifications:--
" GameStop.com reserves the right to substitute any given game in a
bundle if that game becomes unavailable at launch. If this occurs, you
will be notified and given the option of canceling your order before
launch. "
EB:-
"In the unlikely event we need to modify the software or accessory
selections, we will notify you at least 48 hours in advance, giving
you an opportunity to cancel. "
.... canceling the order means canceling the WHOLE order. Gamestop
doesn't care, they'll just rebundle (or unbundle) the Xbox360 and ship
it to the next sucker in the shortage queue. Puppets on a
supply-shortage string. The Xbox360 is on a strict first-come first
serve allocation, and the shortfall on advance orders is now expected
to be around 1 million units missing pre-Christmas delivery. The Ebay
parasites will have a great feeding time on the 'must-have-before-
Christmas' rich suckers.
John Lewis
- Technology early-birds are flying guinea-pigs.
you obviously have a shit computer and like to make yourself feel better by
making posts like this.
poor sad man.
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OT (sigh) but here goes.............
Wrong on all counts. I just don't like to see people being sucked by
multimillion $$ marketing hype into throwing away hard-earned money,
while waiting for a few months until the hype-smoke clears will
result in that money being much more sensibly spent. I might even buy
an Xbox360 myself but I am waiting at least 6 months to find out
how it really fits into one's home entertainment - and the average
running-cost ( sale prices of games etc...)... plus the extra 6 months
will clarify the PS3 and Nintendo Revolution situations. For example,
if the PS3 is released with a developer-supported optional
keyboard-mouse interface it will be very hard to refuse, even at a
price (say) of $499 ( with hard-disk and Blu-ray drive, of course)
---M$$ has already said that the keyboard and mouse will never be
optioned or developer-supported on the current Xbox360.
BTW, some interesting things are happening in the XBox360
background that should hearten PC players. M$$ has announced
that they going to strengthen their support for PC gaming in the
upcoming Vista OS. Also, more immediately, the wired (USB) Version
of the Xbox360 controller is actually called the Xbox360 Controller
for Windows and comes with Windows driver software - so M$$
must be encouraging the Xbox360 developers to support the
Xbox360 controller in PC ports of Xbox360 games. Not really
surprising, since M$$ is interesting in making money on both
the Xbox and their PC software offerings. Anything that reinforces
gaming on BOTH the Xbox360 and the PC is in their interest.
John Lewis
- Technology early-birds are flying guinea-pigs. |
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