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Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject:
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I was just in an Office Max store this morning looking at color laser
printers. Unfortunately, none of the models on display were set up to
print out sample prints--all displayed error messages and the store
attendant in the printer department couldn't get any of them to work.
Not impressive.
The Konica-Minolta models on display appeared to be made of very cheap
plastic, whereas the Okidata model on display (C5200N) appeared to be
solidly high quality and built like a tank (however, it was also a
couple of hundred dollars more expensive too.) The store had no Kyocera
models on display.
I think that if I want to get a good and true comparison of the output
quality of these brands of color printers I'll have to carry a CD with
a colorful file on it that I usually print plus my own paper to the
business supply representative stores of each of these printers in my
vicinity rather than to the retail outlets (like Office Max) that seem
to be unresponsive and not knowledgeable about the very machines they
sell. I'll give it a try soon at Konica, Okidata, & Kyocera business
supply stores and I'll try to report what I find. It might not be right
away, sorry.
I would certainly also like to hear what others think of these printers
from direct experience with them.
Bill Pease |
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measekite
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject:
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JUST BUY ONE OF EACH PRINTER YOU ARE CONSIDERING. TAKETHEM HOME AND
PRINT WITH THEM FOR A WEEK. KEEP THE ONE YOU LIKE AND RETURN THE OTHERS.
william.pease@verizon.net wrote:
| Quote: | I was just in an Office Max store this morning looking at color laser
printers. Unfortunately, none of the models on display were set up to
print out sample prints--all displayed error messages and the store
attendant in the printer department couldn't get any of them to work.
Not impressive.
The Konica-Minolta models on display appeared to be made of very cheap
plastic, whereas the Okidata model on display (C5200N) appeared to be
solidly high quality and built like a tank (however, it was also a
couple of hundred dollars more expensive too.) The store had no Kyocera
models on display.
I think that if I want to get a good and true comparison of the output
quality of these brands of color printers I'll have to carry a CD with
a colorful file on it that I usually print plus my own paper to the
business supply representative stores of each of these printers in my
vicinity rather than to the retail outlets (like Office Max) that seem
to be unresponsive and not knowledgeable about the very machines they
sell. I'll give it a try soon at Konica, Okidata, & Kyocera business
supply stores and I'll try to report what I find. It might not be right
away, sorry.
I would certainly also like to hear what others think of these printers
from direct experience with them.
Bill Pease
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me@privacy.net
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject:
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In message <1131034666.842859.33100@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
william.pease@verizon.net writes
| Quote: | I was just in an Office Max store this morning looking at color laser
printers. Unfortunately, none of the models on display were set up to
print out sample prints--all displayed error messages and the store
attendant in the printer department couldn't get any of them to work.
Not impressive.
The Konica-Minolta models on display appeared to be made of very cheap
plastic, whereas the Okidata model on display (C5200N) appeared to be
solidly high quality and built like a tank (however, it was also a
couple of hundred dollars more expensive too.) The store had no Kyocera
models on display.
I think that if I want to get a good and true comparison of the output
quality of these brands of color printers I'll have to carry a CD with
a colorful file on it that I usually print plus my own paper to the
business supply representative stores of each of these printers in my
vicinity rather than to the retail outlets (like Office Max) that seem
to be unresponsive and not knowledgeable about the very machines they
sell. I'll give it a try soon at Konica, Okidata, & Kyocera business
supply stores and I'll try to report what I find. It might not be right
away, sorry.
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When I bought my Xerox Phaser I emailed a document to a Xerox reseller
who printed it out and posted it to me, and other companies have sent me
samples. IIRC when I bought the QMS (QMS-> QMS-Minotla- >
Konica-Minotla !) they sent me samples first. The more heavy duty the
printer the less likely you are going to find it on display in a retail
store. I think the Konica 5??? Models have a 4-bit colour depth so each
dot can have 16 levels of intensity, giving you 65k colours. The
Kyocera FS-5xxxx models have the same bit depth. Its not until you
spend several thousand that you get to an 8 bit depth providing 16
million colours.
Funnily enough I was looking around for more ink for my phaser 8200 and
came across mention of a 6200 which I assumed was a typo, but going to
Xerox I found that there used to be one, which has now been replaced by
a 6350, which is a toner based machine that may be worth looking at.
I'm quite happy with the phaser 8200, which I have had for two years
(and two weeks now) and its done just over 55,000 pages in that time.
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:24 am Post subject:
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me@privacy.net wrote:
| Quote: | In message <XL8af.5293$LF3.587370@news20.bellglobal.com>, Commentator
commentator@nospam.com> writes
Samsung 510. I have the non-network version connected to a server,
but it is available with a network card as well.
I have had it for ~ 6 months, great printer.
How much are you printing on it? For the OPs need of about 24,000
pages a year I think the costs on one of those will outweigh the
initial purchase price savings.
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I am printing 1,000 - 1,500 pages / month.
Consumable costs stack up quite favourably against comparable machines,
definitely lower than HP.
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ian lincoln
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:46 am Post subject:
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I am 3 of 10. Prepare to be assimilated
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I am dyslexia of borg
Your ass will be laminated |
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:24 am Post subject:
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ian lincoln wrote:
| Quote: | "Commentator" <commentator@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I am 3 of 10. Prepare to be assimilated
I am dyslexia of borg
Your ass will be laminated
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LOL
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No Dummy
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject:
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In article <gdjaf.12005$dO2.8632@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
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I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OKI BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT TONY IS IN DA BUSINESS AND
ASK YOURSELF ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY IF IT BREAKS DOWN SO HE CAN MAKE MONEY.
I WOULD GO TO THE REVIEW AT PCMAG.COM RATHER THAN LISTEN TO ANYBODY ON
THIS NG.
Keep in mind that Measekite does not know about anything except one |
Canon iP4000, and that one only with stock Canon cartridges. Everything
else he states, IN BIG IMPRESSIVE CAPS, is just based on his overactive
imagination. He is definitely not IN DA BUSINESS, or in da know! He is
IN DA DARK! and eat up with the dumass. |
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ian lincoln
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject:
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"Stick Stickus" <dclincattiscalidotcodotuk> wrote in message
news:436af71c$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
| Quote: | This is a review of the laser I have, you can still find these about at
reduced prices as they are now superseded by the 3200 series. I find them
a fast reliable printer that will print photo quality on standard paper
which is a bonus.
Oki - C3100 review
Good value colour laser printer (02/03/2005)
Colour laser printer prices have dropped dramatically over the last couple
of years, and you can now get a very serviceable machine, like Oki's
C3100, for under £500 at street prices. This is a printer designed for a
small office or an individual needing relatively high-volume colour
prints. It's a lot more economical to run than an equivalent colour
inkjet. Print costs are low for this category of colour printer.
There are two things unusual about the C3100. Firstly, it uses an in-line
engine. This means that, rather than having a 'carousel' with the four
colour toner cartridges mounted in it and rotating them to lay each colour
in turn onto a single photosensitive drum, this machine uses a
photosensitive belt and lays colour from separate hoppers in a single
pass. The technique should be quicker than a carousel and is unusual in a
colour printer at this price point.
Secondly, like all Oki laser printers, it's actually an LED printer. Oki
uses a strip of high-intensity LEDs in place of a laser beam to write each
page. This sometimes puts a limit on the top resolution of the printer
(though here it's a healthy 1,200dpi), but the LED strip takes up a lot
less room than a laser engine.
Controls on the printer are simple, with buttons to turn it on and offline
and to cancel a print job. There are also four indicators for power, paper
out, low toner and paper jam. The paper comes from a 300-sheet built-in
paper tray under the printer, and there's also a 100-sheet multi-purpose
tray which folds down and slides out from the front of the machine. At the
rear is a single USB 2 socket - there's no parallel or network connection
on the C3100.
The Windows driver is pretty complete and includes functions to print
watermarks and to control colour, though there is no direct adherence to
any colour standards.
Printed output is generally pretty good. Black text is clear and sharp
with very little toner spray along the edges. Colour graphics are also
well reproduced, with little banding in areas of fill.
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Regards
Stick, Oxford, UK
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Frank
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject:
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No Dummy wrote:
| Quote: | In article <gdjaf.12005$dO2.8632@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OKI BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT TONY IS IN DA BUSINESS AND
ASK YOURSELF ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY IF IT BREAKS DOWN SO HE CAN MAKE MONEY.
I WOULD GO TO THE REVIEW AT PCMAG.COM RATHER THAN LISTEN TO ANYBODY ON
THIS NG.
Keep in mind that Measekite does not know about anything except one
Canon iP4000, and that one only with stock Canon cartridges. Everything
else he states, IN BIG IMPRESSIVE CAPS, is just based on his overactive
imagination. He is definitely not IN DA BUSINESS, or in da know! He is
IN DA DARK! and eat up with the dumass.
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We've all asked our resident jackass meashershithead whether having the
expert professional advice of someone like Tony, who is in the business
is better than having, say the advice of a fucking idiot moron like
meashershithead.
Guess he don't know the difference.
Figures.
Frank |
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measekite
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject:
Re: Color Laser Recommendations |
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Frank wrote:
| Quote: | No Dummy wrote:
In article <gdjaf.12005$dO2.8632@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OKI BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT TONY IS IN DA
BUSINESS AND ASK YOURSELF ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY IF IT BREAKS DOWN
SO HE CAN MAKE MONEY.
I WOULD GO TO THE REVIEW AT PCMAG.COM RATHER THAN LISTEN TO
ANYBODY ON THIS NG.
Keep in mind that Measekite does not know about anything except one
Canon iP4000, and that one only with stock Canon cartridges.
Everything else he states, IN BIG IMPRESSIVE CAPS, is just based on
his overactive imagination. He is definitely not IN DA BUSINESS, or
in da know! He is IN DA DARK! and eat up with the dumass.
We've all asked our resident jackass meashershithead whether having
the expert professional advice of someone like Tony, who is in the
business is better than having, say the advice of a fucking idiot
moron like meashershithead.
Guess he don't know the difference.
Figures.
Frank
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I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OKI BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT TONY IS IN DA BUSINESS AND
ASK YOURSELF ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY IF IT BREAKS DOWN SO HE CAN MAKE MONEY.
I WOULD GO TO THE REVIEW AT PCMAG.COM RATHER THAN LISTEN TO ANYBODY ON
THIS NG. |
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Arthur Entlich
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Color Laser Recommendations |
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I knew of a company years back called Mansmann-Tally (I think that was
the spelling). They had some interesting printers back then, large
lasers, color proofing lasers, solid ink and dye sub printers. Mainly
sold to industry/printing companies.
Genicom was yet another printing company, which I think used to use
other brands of printers and do "value added" conversions to them. I
think they showed one of the first continuous paper laser printers.
The industry has done a lot of consolidation in recent years, so it
wouldn't surprise me that these companies might have merged.
Art
ian lincoln wrote:
| Quote: | "Stick Stickus" <dclincattiscalidotcodotuk> wrote in message
news:436af71c$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
This is a review of the laser I have, you can still find these about at
reduced prices as they are now superseded by the 3200 series. I find them
a fast reliable printer that will print photo quality on standard paper
which is a bonus.
Oki - C3100 review
Good value colour laser printer (02/03/2005)
Colour laser printer prices have dropped dramatically over the last couple
of years, and you can now get a very serviceable machine, like Oki's
C3100, for under £500 at street prices. This is a printer designed for a
small office or an individual needing relatively high-volume colour
prints. It's a lot more economical to run than an equivalent colour
inkjet. Print costs are low for this category of colour printer.
There are two things unusual about the C3100. Firstly, it uses an in-line
engine. This means that, rather than having a 'carousel' with the four
colour toner cartridges mounted in it and rotating them to lay each colour
in turn onto a single photosensitive drum, this machine uses a
photosensitive belt and lays colour from separate hoppers in a single
pass. The technique should be quicker than a carousel and is unusual in a
colour printer at this price point.
Secondly, like all Oki laser printers, it's actually an LED printer. Oki
uses a strip of high-intensity LEDs in place of a laser beam to write each
page. This sometimes puts a limit on the top resolution of the printer
(though here it's a healthy 1,200dpi), but the LED strip takes up a lot
less room than a laser engine.
Controls on the printer are simple, with buttons to turn it on and offline
and to cancel a print job. There are also four indicators for power, paper
out, low toner and paper jam. The paper comes from a 300-sheet built-in
paper tray under the printer, and there's also a 100-sheet multi-purpose
tray which folds down and slides out from the front of the machine. At the
rear is a single USB 2 socket - there's no parallel or network connection
on the C3100.
The Windows driver is pretty complete and includes functions to print
watermarks and to control colour, though there is no direct adherence to
any colour standards.
Printed output is generally pretty good. Black text is clear and sharp
with very little toner spray along the edges. Colour graphics are also
well reproduced, with little banding in areas of fill.
--
Regards
Stick, Oxford, UK
#Remove the 'at' and the'dots' to reply
Has anyone ever heard of this lot?
www.tallygenicom.co.uk
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