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Angry Andrew
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

A.A.
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Brendan R. Wehrung
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

Angry Andrew (angryandrewboycottsonybmg@sonycrap.com) writes:
Quote:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

A.A.


So what's the workaround? I just bought three Americana compilations on
BMGSony and want to combine one (the Goldman Band tracks) with another
Goldman Band disc on EMI.

Brendan
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news.ntlworld.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

Brendan R. Wehrung, ck183@FreeNet.Carleton.CA escribió en el mensaje,
<dkc4c5$9g6$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>, 3 Nov 2005 04:40:37 GMT
Quote:

Angry Andrew (angryandrewboycottsonybmg@sonycrap.com) writes:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

A.A.


So what's the workaround? I just bought three Americana compilations on
BMGSony and want to combine one (the Goldman Band tracks) with another
Goldman Band disc on EMI.

Brendan
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Disable autorun.
Do not install the software player on the cd.
Use "CDex" http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos or "Exact Audio Copy"
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ to rip the cd.

Gato
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Daniel Mandic
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

Angry Andrew wrote:


Quote:
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
A.A.


Why don?t you take the Record? With that you would not have problems
playing it back.

Put the needle on the record. Don?t forget to take the right speed :-)




All, boycot Angry!!!!!




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic


P.S.: What is this a problem? :-)
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Daniel Mandic
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

Quote:
Why don?t you take the Record? With that you would not have problems
playing it back.

I forgot to mention, that the quality for home-user would be more
appreciable, digitizing a Record than making worse digital copies from
a far worse (IMHO only for playback - IMO digitally uncopyable, I tried
many copies and not one satisfies. Real CD-Recorder are better, but
also not 100%) medium called Compact Disc.
So anyone could decide him/herself which audio-quality is needed. MP3,
WAV, 16Bit, 20Bit, 24bit... etc...
The Record delivers up to 70000Hz Frequence, well enough for
24bit/192!khz (96Khz Sampleclock is too less for full bandwidth)
digitizing. Why angering with CD´s?
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man-wai chang
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

Angry Andrew wrote:
Quote:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

Use a honest OS like linux.

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John Corliss
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

Angry Andrew wrote:
Quote:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

I totally agree, even if this is off topic in alt.comp.freeware. More on
the ROOTKIT DRM that Sony installs on your system without you knowing it
is here:

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2053

and here:

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2057

I won't be knowingly buying another Sony product again, ever.

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PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.
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DevilsPGD
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

In message <436a03fd$1_3@rain.i-cable.com> man-wai chang
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Angry Andrew wrote:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

Use a honest OS like linux.

What difference would that make? If Linux was popular enough for Sony
to care, they could just as easily write this crap to run under Linux.

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Dan G
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12631



"Angry Andrew" <angryandrewboycottsonybmg@sonycrap.com> wrote in message
news:rdtim1h177dk38tnu0jseiq96728vqvgvt@4ax.com...
Quote:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/


http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

A.A.
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Ghostrider
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

Angry Andrew wrote:
Quote:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

A.A.


Why bother boycotting? It's going to be self-destructing in
any event. The time is now to liquidate any common stock in
SONY.
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Paul_B
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:29:21 +0100, Angry Andrew wrote:


Quote:
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html

A.A.


Mark's article was like being taken on a tour of the Matrix.
Amazing.

One takeaway is that I have lost *all* reservations about using
his excellent disk utilities to defrag my computer (and they are
indeed *superb*!! - goodbye to commercial rivals). This man has a
rare knowledge of the deep levels of how the computer functions,
and writes software that reflects that knowledge.

p.

f'up set.
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Rob Kelk
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:47:58 -0700, DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net>
wrote:

Quote:
In message <436a03fd$1_3@rain.i-cable.com> man-wai chang
toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Angry Andrew wrote:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

Use a honest OS like linux.

What difference would that make? If Linux was popular enough for Sony
to care, they could just as easily write this crap to run under Linux.

Not "as easily" - the kernel architecture is substantially different.
But it could be done, yes. I'm not sure how much room would be left on
the CD for music, though...

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Sam Arnold
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

On Thursday 03 November 2005 07:47, DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net>
(<io8km1loh9trf1bakofng8ke98h57rm4k9@4ax.com>) wrote:

Quote:
In message <436a03fd$1_3@rain.i-cable.com> man-wai chang
toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Angry Andrew wrote:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

Use a honest OS like linux.

NetBSD, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD are also unaffected by exploits of this kind.

Quote:
What difference would that make?

Linux and the BSDs are completely free of designed-in security defects that
permeate Microsoft products. Although these operating systems will never
be complete secure, their vulnerabilities are fixed quickly without the
fuss and secrecy demands of The Monopoly.

Quote:
If Linux was popular enough for Sony
to care, they could just as easily write this crap to run under Linux.

This is nothing more than a repetition of the unsupported evasion attempted
repeatedly by Microsoft. Microsoft does this in an attempt to draw
attention from the large number of vulnerabilities in their software. They
want you to believe the number of bugs and trojans and viruses and security
problems is proportional to market share.

Why don't you get some basic education in operating-system principles and
the design of Sony's malware? If you had already done this, you wouldn't
have fallen for the drivel spouted by transparently dishonest corporate
spokesdroids.
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Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

FWIW:

"We wrote on Tuesday about the DRM software from Sony that used rootkit
technologies. The company behind the technology, First 4 Internet, has now
released an update for the software. After visiting the web site,
downloading and installing the update, it now seems that the DRM software no
longer attempts to hide anything on the computer. The rootkit driver
(aries.sys) is removed from the system during the update.

The update from Sony is available here

http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html

We sincerely hope that the updated version will make it to the CD's in
stores as soon as possible. Many people that buy copy-protected music will
not be aware of the programs that get installed on their computers, let
alone worry about updating them.

Automatic uninstallation of the software is still not possible without
additional tools, and removing it manually is difficult. If you want to
remove the software from your computer, we still recommend that you contact
Sony BMG
http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/form8.html
using their web form and ask for permission to uninstall it."

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/

Maris

Angry Andrew wrote:
Quote:
Boycott Sony/BMG

"While the Sony CDs play fine on Red Book audio devices such as
standard consumer electronics CD players, when they're played on a
Windows PC the software forces playback through a bundled media
player, and restricts how many digital copies can be made from
Windows."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/01/sony_rootkit_drm/


http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html
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Arne Anka
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Boycott Sony cd's Reply with quote

I alt.comp.freeware, sa Maris V. Lidaka Sr. utan att tänka först:

Quote:
Automatic uninstallation of the software is still not possible
without additional tools, and removing it manually is difficult. If
you want to remove the software from your computer, we still
recommend that you contact Sony BMG
http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/form8.html
using their web form and ask for permission to uninstall it.

Their FAQ <http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/faq.html#uninstall> says:

How do I uninstall the software?

If at some point you wish to remove the software from your machine
simply contact customer service [through this link]. The only safe and
proper way to uninstall the components is to follow these instructions
exactly. You will, though, be unable to use the disc on your computer
once you uninstall the components.

[through this link] == Uninstall Request == <http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/form14.html>

X-Posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.periphs.cdr

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