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Chuck
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

I posted something similar to this a while back, but I confused it by
mentioning other things which I have now eliminated. I have boiled it
all down to this: If I install my new DWD-RW drive (in the slot where I
had a plain DVD-R), my monitor stops working. If I take the new drive
out, monitor comes back.

By "not working", I mean it says "no signal" when I turn the PC on.
This is n ot to do with the monitor or the connections - when I take
the DVD-RW drive out, I do not have to touch the coonections, and the
monitor comes to life.

What am I doing wrong?

ND: The little switch on the back of the new drive is set to CABLE
SELECT (as opposed to MASTER or SLAVE). This is the same as the old
(replaced) drive.

Please, can someone suggest something to try?

Thanks.

C.
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Bob I
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

You say if the "power connector" is removed from DVD drive the video
card works, but if you supply power to DVD the vid card dies? Try the
DVD in another box, it may be drawing to much current for your system to
provide. Or your powersupply may be too small.

Chuck wrote:

Quote:
I posted something similar to this a while back, but I confused it by
mentioning other things which I have now eliminated. I have boiled it
all down to this: If I install my new DWD-RW drive (in the slot where I
had a plain DVD-R), my monitor stops working. If I take the new drive
out, monitor comes back.

By "not working", I mean it says "no signal" when I turn the PC on.
This is n ot to do with the monitor or the connections - when I take
the DVD-RW drive out, I do not have to touch the coonections, and the
monitor comes to life.

What am I doing wrong?

ND: The little switch on the back of the new drive is set to CABLE
SELECT (as opposed to MASTER or SLAVE). This is the same as the old
(replaced) drive.

Please, can someone suggest something to try?

Thanks.

C.
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Ken
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

Chuck wrote:
Quote:
I posted something similar to this a while back, but I confused it by
mentioning other things which I have now eliminated. I have boiled it
all down to this: If I install my new DWD-RW drive (in the slot where I
had a plain DVD-R), my monitor stops working. If I take the new drive
out, monitor comes back.

By "not working", I mean it says "no signal" when I turn the PC on.
This is n ot to do with the monitor or the connections - when I take
the DVD-RW drive out, I do not have to touch the coonections, and the
monitor comes to life.

What am I doing wrong?

ND: The little switch on the back of the new drive is set to CABLE
SELECT (as opposed to MASTER or SLAVE). This is the same as the old
(replaced) drive.

Please, can someone suggest something to try?

Thanks.

C.


Your IDE cable is reversed on the new drive???
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Malke
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

Ken wrote:

Quote:
Chuck wrote:
I posted something similar to this a while back, but I confused it by
mentioning other things which I have now eliminated. I have boiled it
all down to this: If I install my new DWD-RW drive (in the slot where
I had a plain DVD-R), my monitor stops working. If I take the new
drive out, monitor comes back.

By "not working", I mean it says "no signal" when I turn the PC on.
This is n ot to do with the monitor or the connections - when I take
the DVD-RW drive out, I do not have to touch the coonections, and the
monitor comes to life.


Your IDE cable is reversed on the new drive???

I haven't seen a drive where the ribbon cable wasn't keyed to the drive
connector in many years. There is no way the OP could have attached the
cable wrong. It is most likely that Bob I is correct and the power
supply is failing and/or too weak for the new drive. The next
troubleshooting step is to swap out the psu for a more powerful,
known-working one.

Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
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Conor
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

In article <1130947575.020622.171290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Chuck says...
Quote:
I posted something similar to this a while back, but I confused it by
mentioning other things which I have now eliminated. I have boiled it
all down to this: If I install my new DWD-RW drive (in the slot where I
had a plain DVD-R), my monitor stops working. If I take the new drive
out, monitor comes back.

By "not working", I mean it says "no signal" when I turn the PC on.
This is n ot to do with the monitor or the connections - when I take
the DVD-RW drive out, I do not have to touch the coonections, and the
monitor comes to life.

What am I doing wrong?

ND: The little switch on the back of the new drive is set to CABLE
SELECT (as opposed to MASTER or SLAVE). This is the same as the old
(replaced) drive.

Please, can someone suggest something to try?

Higher rated PSU. Your PSU is just about coping with the hardware you

have and the extra load of the DVD-RW is taking it over what it can
handle.


--
Conor

"You're not married, you haven't got a girlfriend and you've never seen
Star Trek? Good Lord!" - Patrick Stewart, Extras.
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Chuck
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

Thanks a lot guys. I think the weak PSU option sounds about right. Now,
can anyone suggest a good place (in the UK) to buy new PSUs?!

Cheers,

C.


Conor wrote:
Quote:
In article <1130947575.020622.171290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Chuck says...
I posted something similar to this a while back, but I confused it by
mentioning other things which I have now eliminated. I have boiled it
all down to this: If I install my new DWD-RW drive (in the slot where I
had a plain DVD-R), my monitor stops working. If I take the new drive
out, monitor comes back.

By "not working", I mean it says "no signal" when I turn the PC on.
This is n ot to do with the monitor or the connections - when I take
the DVD-RW drive out, I do not have to touch the coonections, and the
monitor comes to life.

What am I doing wrong?

ND: The little switch on the back of the new drive is set to CABLE
SELECT (as opposed to MASTER or SLAVE). This is the same as the old
(replaced) drive.

Please, can someone suggest something to try?

Higher rated PSU. Your PSU is just about coping with the hardware you
have and the extra load of the DVD-RW is taking it over what it can
handle.


--
Conor

"You're not married, you haven't got a girlfriend and you've never seen
Star Trek? Good Lord!" - Patrick Stewart, Extras.
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Bob I
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

Within walking distance? Come on!

Chuck wrote:

Quote:
Thanks a lot guys. I think the weak PSU option sounds about right. Now,
can anyone suggest a good place (in the UK) to buy new PSUs?!

Cheers,

C.


Conor wrote:

In article <1130947575.020622.171290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Chuck says...

I posted something similar to this a while back, but I confused it by
mentioning other things which I have now eliminated. I have boiled it
all down to this: If I install my new DWD-RW drive (in the slot where I
had a plain DVD-R), my monitor stops working. If I take the new drive
out, monitor comes back.

By "not working", I mean it says "no signal" when I turn the PC on.
This is n ot to do with the monitor or the connections - when I take
the DVD-RW drive out, I do not have to touch the coonections, and the
monitor comes to life.

What am I doing wrong?

ND: The little switch on the back of the new drive is set to CABLE
SELECT (as opposed to MASTER or SLAVE). This is the same as the old
(replaced) drive.

Please, can someone suggest something to try?


Higher rated PSU. Your PSU is just about coping with the hardware you
have and the extra load of the DVD-RW is taking it over what it can
handle.


--
Conor

"You're not married, you haven't got a girlfriend and you've never seen
Star Trek? Good Lord!" - Patrick Stewart, Extras.

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Chuck
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

Quote:
Within walking distance? Come on!


Well, I was thinking on the web, in the UK. I looked at PC world and
they don't seem to sell PSUs (on their website). I'm not being lazy,
honest! Just ignorant.

C.
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Muttley
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

"Chuck" <northfinchley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130947575.020622.171290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
I posted something similar to this a while back, but I confused it by
mentioning other things which I have now eliminated. I have boiled it
all down to this: If I install my new DWD-RW drive (in the slot where I
had a plain DVD-R), my monitor stops working. If I take the new drive
out, monitor comes back.

By "not working", I mean it says "no signal" when I turn the PC on.
This is n ot to do with the monitor or the connections - when I take
the DVD-RW drive out, I do not have to touch the coonections, and the
monitor comes to life.

What am I doing wrong?

ND: The little switch on the back of the new drive is set to CABLE
SELECT (as opposed to MASTER or SLAVE). This is the same as the old
(replaced) drive.

Please, can someone suggest something to try?

Thanks.

C.


Hi Chuck,

When you say "This is not to do with the monitor or the connections - when I
take the DVD-RW drive out, I do not have to touch the connections, and the
monitor comes to life.";

Do you mean the drive is still connected but only removed from the slot??
ie, the drive is still connected to the power and data cables??

Cheers,

John S.
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kony
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

On 4 Nov 2005 02:31:30 -0800, "Chuck"
<northfinchley@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Within walking distance? Come on!


Well, I was thinking on the web, in the UK. I looked at PC world and
they don't seem to sell PSUs (on their website). I'm not being lazy,
honest! Just ignorant.

C.

On their 'site, look under "System Cases", "Power Supplies"

Unfortunately their selection is rather poor, only carrying
"Jeantech" which appears (from the pictures) to relabel PSU
from more than one manufacturer- meaning they may just buy
up excess stock from anywhere so you'd have no assurance of
what you're getting unless the product does exactly match
the pictures. For example, their 500W is a relabeled
Sirtec, aka Thermaltake/Enlight, an older model but it would
still be sufficient for a modern system. I wouldn't trust
their sub-400W models with anything and the 400-250W models
only with an *average* system rather than a higher end.
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Chuck
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

Thanks. Does it matter if I get a 500w PSU when I don't need that much?
I mean, can these things oversupply? My current one is 200w. I've seen
this one here:

http://www.lowestonweb.com/Products/DisplayInfoMain.asp?e=FC839C88-ADD1-401F-98E1-B8A27CCABC4D


It is 350W, and 200 to 350 seems a bit of a jump to me. I'm ignorant,
remember.

Cheers,

C.
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Rob Hemmings
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

"Chuck" <northfinchley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131114454.308030.82050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Thanks. Does it matter if I get a 500w PSU when I don't need that much?
I mean, can these things oversupply? My current one is 200w. I've seen
this one here:


http://www.lowestonweb.com/Products/DisplayInfoMain.asp?e=FC839C88-ADD1-401F-98E1-B8A27CCABC4D


It is 350W, and 200 to 350 seems a bit of a jump to me. I'm ignorant,
remember.

Chuck, I build a lot of PCs at work and can recommend the
'HiperPower' range of PSU's if you want a good budget-priced
one. For high-end builds, I generally use 'Enermax'.
It doesn't matter if you get a more powerful (wattage-wise)
than you need. I think this Hiper one will do you (I've used
quite a few of these 425W models):
http://www.scan.co.uk
quick code: LN7925 (type into search box at top of Scan's homepage.)
HTH
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Rob
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Bob I
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

try this
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Computer+PSU+UK&btnG=Google+Search

Chuck wrote:

Quote:
Within walking distance? Come on!



Well, I was thinking on the web, in the UK. I looked at PC world and
they don't seem to sell PSUs (on their website). I'm not being lazy,
honest! Just ignorant.

C.
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kony
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

On 4 Nov 2005 06:27:34 -0800, "Chuck"
<northfinchley@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Thanks. Does it matter if I get a 500w PSU when I don't need that much?
I mean, can these things oversupply?

No, they only supply what the system needs. It is better to
have a 400W PSU and use 200W from it, than use 200W from a
200W PSU as you are pushing the limits of the design and it
will tend to wear out faster.


Quote:
My current one is 200w.

I had not come to any conclusion one way or the other about
whether you need a power supply- maybe, or maybe not- I
don't know. Regardless, if your present 200W PSU was
sufficient, you shouldn't need a 500W now. However, it is
still a bad idea to buy an off-brand generic as you may not
have assurance the labeled capacity is accurate. In an
off-brand such as Jeantech, their so-called 400W would
probably be sufficient, but their 300W, might not be.



I've seen
Quote:
this one here:

http://www.lowestonweb.com/Products/DisplayInfoMain.asp?e=FC839C88-ADD1-401F-98E1-B8A27CCABC4D


It is 350W, and 200 to 350 seems a bit of a jump to me. I'm ignorant,
remember.

That FSP is same as Fortron or Sparkle. It should be a good
choice for your system. The one drawback might be that the
fan (assuming same fan they have used previously) is a
sleeve-bearing Yate Loon and some have had those fans, in
those power supplies, fail. That doesn't make it a bad
choice necessarily, but it does mean that after a couple
years it would be good to lube the fan. Similar problem
exists with many budget power supplies, the fans are lower
cost because of cheaper construction and tend not to last as
long. More of a problem in higher heat systems thought,
yours might do fine.

SInce that supplier has FSP supplies, there may be a few
others that are also a good value. Sometimes it's even a
good idea to overspec the supply so that it could more
likely be resued on the next system. To do that, it would
be advisable to get something with at least 18A, or higher,
on the 12V rail(s).
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Conor
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: My monitor will not work when I install DVD-RW drive Reply with quote

In article <1131114454.308030.82050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Chuck says...
Quote:
Thanks. Does it matter if I get a 500w PSU when I don't need that much?
I mean, can these things oversupply?

No.


Quote:
It is 350W, and 200 to 350 seems a bit of a jump to me. I'm ignorant,
remember.

No worries. At least you admit it. A computer will only draw what power

it needs. The PSU can't "force" more into it.


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Conor

"You're not married, you haven't got a girlfriend and you've never seen
Star Trek? Good Lord!" - Patrick Stewart, Extras.
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