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Knack
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100 can be
installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
Comparing a CardBus USB 2.0 adapter to a CardBus SATA adapter for use with
an external ATA 100 HDD. Addonics makes both such CardBus adapters. I don't
yet own a CardBus SATA adapter.
The maximum data transfer rate of CardBus is far slower than either USB 2.0
or SATA. So isn't CardBus the bottleneck in the data stream? If so, then
why would Addonics make a more expensive CardBus adapter for SATA? And SATA
cable is more expensive than USB 2.0 cable.
What would be the reason to choose a Cardbus SATA adapter over a Cardbus USB
2.0 adapter? |
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Healthnut
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3sqrg7FpkugjU1@individual.net...
| Quote: | Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100 can be
installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
Nope, the physical interface is completely different.
Apparently it's been done,
Nope. One is serial and the other parallel for starters.
but perhaps not by consumers yet?
Not by anyone.
Addonics tested SATA on a Western Digital ATA100 120GB hard drive. See
http://www.addonics.com/emerging_technologies/sata_tutorial.asp
That is something else entirely. SATA to IDE converters
have been around ever since SATA was buyable.
Did they use an available ATA to SATA interface adapter, or did they
construct their own special adapter for test purposes in their shop?
Doesnt matter, that's nothing like putting an ATA drive into
a USB enclosure that is designed to take a SATA drive.
You misundertood me. I'm comparing an ATA HDD within a USB2-to-ATA adapted |
enclosure vs. an ATA HDD within a SATA-to-ATA enclosure (if there is such an
animal). The USB2 and SATA cables (respectively) would connect to
appropriate CardBus adapters. |
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Knack
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3sqn9hFpfdllU1@individual.net...
| Quote: | Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100 can be
installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
Nope, the physical interface is completely different.
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Apparently it's been done, but perhaps not by consumers yet? Addonics tested
SATA on a Western Digital ATA100 120GB hard drive. See
http://www.addonics.com/emerging_technologies/sata_tutorial.asp
Did they use an available ATA to SATA interface adapter, or did they
construct their own special adapter for test purposes in their shop? |
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Rod Speed
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
| Quote: | External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100 can be
installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
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Nope, the physical interface is completely different.
| Quote: | Comparing a CardBus USB 2.0 adapter to a CardBus SATA adapter for use with an
external ATA 100 HDD. Addonics makes both such CardBus adapters. I don't yet
own a CardBus SATA adapter.
The maximum data transfer rate of CardBus is far slower than either
USB 2.0 or SATA. So isn't CardBus the bottleneck in the data stream? If so,
then why would Addonics make a more expensive CardBus adapter
for SATA? And SATA cable is more expensive than USB 2.0 cable.
What would be the reason to choose a Cardbus SATA adapter over a Cardbus USB
2.0 adapter?
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SATA has a lot less protocol overhead than USB 2
and the SATA external drive can be used on a desktop
that has SATA external capability as well as the craptop. |
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Rod Speed
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
| Quote: | Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100 can be
installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
Nope, the physical interface is completely different.
Apparently it's been done,
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Nope. One is serial and the other parallel for starters.
| Quote: | but perhaps not by consumers yet?
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Not by anyone.
That is something else entirely. SATA to IDE converters
have been around ever since SATA was buyable.
| Quote: | Did they use an available ATA to SATA interface adapter, or did they
construct their own special adapter for test purposes in their shop?
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Doesnt matter, that's nothing like putting an ATA drive into
a USB enclosure that is designed to take a SATA drive. |
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Rod Speed
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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Healthnut <carbos.are.bad@longevity.com> wrote
| Quote: | Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100
can be installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
Nope, the physical interface is completely different.
Apparently it's been done,
Nope. One is serial and the other parallel for starters.
but perhaps not by consumers yet?
Not by anyone.
Addonics tested SATA on a Western Digital ATA100 120GB hard drive.
See http://www.addonics.com/emerging_technologies/sata_tutorial.asp
That is something else entirely. SATA to IDE converters
have been around ever since SATA was buyable.
Did they use an available ATA to SATA interface adapter, or did they
construct their own special adapter for test purposes in their shop?
Doesnt matter, that's nothing like putting an ATA drive into
a USB enclosure that is designed to take a SATA drive.
You misundertood me.
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Nope.
| Quote: | I'm comparing an ATA HDD within a USB2-to-ATA adapted enclosure vs. an ATA HDD
within a SATA-to-ATA enclosure (if there is such an animal).
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There isnt, like I said.
| Quote: | The USB2 and SATA cables (respectively)
would connect to appropriate CardBus adapters.
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Pity about the price of the SATA route even if it was buyable.
If you do want to go the SATA route, get a SATA drive. |
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J. Clarke
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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Rod Speed wrote:
| Quote: | Healthnut <carbos.are.bad@longevity.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100
can be installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
Nope, the physical interface is completely different.
Apparently it's been done,
Nope. One is serial and the other parallel for starters.
but perhaps not by consumers yet?
Not by anyone.
Addonics tested SATA on a Western Digital ATA100 120GB hard drive.
See http://www.addonics.com/emerging_technologies/sata_tutorial.asp
That is something else entirely. SATA to IDE converters
have been around ever since SATA was buyable.
Did they use an available ATA to SATA interface adapter, or did they
construct their own special adapter for test purposes in their shop?
Doesnt matter, that's nothing like putting an ATA drive into
a USB enclosure that is designed to take a SATA drive.
You misundertood me.
Nope.
I'm comparing an ATA HDD within a USB2-to-ATA adapted enclosure vs. an
ATA HDD within a SATA-to-ATA enclosure (if there is such an animal).
There isnt, like I said.
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Then what, exactly, is a Highpoint RocketMate 1100?
| Quote: | The USB2 and SATA cables (respectively)
would connect to appropriate CardBus adapters.
Pity about the price of the SATA route even if it was buyable.
If you do want to go the SATA route, get a SATA drive.
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Folkert Rienstra
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:47 pm Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3sre11Fpj1q3U1@individual.net
| Quote: | Healthnut <carbos.are.bad@longevity.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100
can be installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
Nope, the physical interface is completely different.
Apparently it's been done,
Nope. One is serial and the other parallel for starters.
but perhaps not by consumers yet?
Not by anyone.
Addonics tested SATA on a Western Digital ATA100 120GB hard drive.
See http://www.addonics.com/emerging_technologies/sata_tutorial.asp
That is something else entirely. SATA to IDE converters
have been around ever since SATA was buyable.
Did they use an available ATA to SATA interface adapter, or did they
construct their own special adapter for test purposes in their shop?
Doesnt matter, that's nothing like putting an ATA drive into
a USB enclosure that is designed to take a SATA drive.
You misundertood me.
Nope.
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Of course you do.
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I'm comparing an ATA HDD within a USB2-to-ATA adapted enclosure vs.
an ATA HDD within a SATA-to-ATA enclosure (if there is such an animal).
There isnt, like I said.
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Of course there is, you silly bugger.
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The USB2 and SATA cables (respectively)
would connect to appropriate CardBus adapters.
Pity about the price of the SATA route even if it was buyable.
If you do want to go the SATA route, get a SATA drive. |
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Folkert Rienstra
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:02 am Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3sqn9hFpfdllU1@individual.net
| Quote: | Knack <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote
External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100 can be
installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
Nope, the physical interface is completely different.
Comparing a CardBus USB 2.0 adapter to a CardBus SATA adapter for use with an
external ATA 100 HDD. Addonics makes both such CardBus adapters. I don't yet
own a CardBus SATA adapter.
The maximum data transfer rate of CardBus is far slower than either
USB 2.0 or SATA. So isn't CardBus the bottleneck in the data stream? If so,
then why would Addonics make a more expensive CardBus adapter
for SATA? And SATA cable is more expensive than USB 2.0 cable.
What would be the reason to choose a Cardbus SATA adapter over a Cardbus USB
2.0 adapter?
SATA has a lot less protocol overhead than USB 2
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Take that thumb out of your mouth child.
| Quote: | and the SATA external drive can be used on a desktop
that has SATA external capability as well as the craptop. |
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Folkert Rienstra
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:58 am Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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"Knack" <zymatikNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:PtV9f.4570$Rl1.1649@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
| Quote: | External HDD project for a laptop.
The way I understand it, a nonSATA HDD such as an Ultra ATA 100 can be
installed in a SATA external HDD enclosure. True?
Comparing a CardBus USB 2.0 adapter to a CardBus SATA adapter for use with
an external ATA 100 HDD. Addonics makes both such CardBus adapters. I don't
yet own a CardBus SATA adapter.
The maximum data transfer rate of CardBus is far slower than either USB 2.0
or SATA. So isn't CardBus the bottleneck in the data stream?
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First make a conclusion then ask for a conclusion. Nice one.
| Quote: | If so, then why would Addonics make a more expensive CardBus adapter for SATA?
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See earlier comment.
| Quote: | And SATA cable is more expensive than USB 2.0 cable.
What would be the reason to choose a Cardbus SATA adapter over a Cardbus USB
2.0 adapter?
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Try something radical: speed? |
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bxf
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:29 pm Post subject:
Re: CardBus adapters: USB 2.0 vs. SATA |
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Knack wrote:
| Quote: | The maximum data transfer rate of CardBus is far slower than either USB 2.0
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I'm not bothering to check the numbers, but this makes no sense, given
that there are a zillion CARDBUS USB2 adapters on the market, enabling
one to use USB2 devices at USB2 speeds. |
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