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Angus Comber
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:56 am Post subject:
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Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
The scsi controller doesn't need to be bootable or have any fancy features
but it should fit into my PC with a Intel D865 motherboard. The PCI slots
are probably the standard PCI 32 bit type - will that be a problem?
In addition, having a known brand card like an Adaptec might be easier
because I need to find Linux drivers for the card.
Can anyone let me know a good model - ideally Adaptec - which will fit the
bill?
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin card
in.
Angus |
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Michael Hawes
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:05 am Post subject:
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"Angus Comber" <angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote in message
news:dk8h9a$50d$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
| Quote: | Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
The scsi controller doesn't need to be bootable or have any fancy features
but it should fit into my PC with a Intel D865 motherboard. The PCI slots
are probably the standard PCI 32 bit type - will that be a problem?
In addition, having a known brand card like an Adaptec might be easier
because I need to find Linux drivers for the card.
Can anyone let me know a good model - ideally Adaptec - which will fit the
bill?
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra
Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin
card
in.
Angus
Try |
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Adaptec-AHA-2940-2940U-SCSI-Card-Cable_W0QQitemZ6815519607QQcategoryZ90716QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ebay is good source for cards and 68 - 80 converters.
Mike. |
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Folkert Rienstra
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:29 am Post subject:
Re: Need a SCSI controller for my desktop wghich will work w |
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"Angus Comber" <angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote in message news:dk8h9a$50d$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk
| Quote: | Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
The scsi controller doesn't need to be bootable or have any fancy features
but it should fit into my PC with a Intel D865 motherboard. The PCI slots
are probably the standard PCI 32 bit type - will that be a problem?
In addition, having a known brand card like an Adaptec might be easier
because I need to find Linux drivers for the card.
Can anyone let me know a good model - ideally Adaptec - which will fit the
bill?
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work?
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Uh, didn't you say "the less cost the better" ?
| Quote: | It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra Wide
and 50 pin Ultra.
Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin card in.
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What 80-pin card.
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tony wong
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject:
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i use 29160N in PCI slot. It should work with U320 drive.
let me know the performance cos i also wish to upgrade the drive from U160
to U320. thx.
"Michael Hawes" <michael.hawes1remove@tiscali.co.uk> 级糶秎ン穝籇:4367f81e$3_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
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"Angus Comber" <angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote in message
news:dk8h9a$50d$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach
this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
The scsi controller doesn't need to be bootable or have any fancy
features
but it should fit into my PC with a Intel D865 motherboard. The PCI
slots
are probably the standard PCI 32 bit type - will that be a problem?
In addition, having a known brand card like an Adaptec might be easier
because I need to find Linux drivers for the card.
Can anyone let me know a good model - ideally Adaptec - which will fit
the
bill?
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32
bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra
Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin
card
in.
Angus
Try
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Adaptec-AHA-2940-2940U-SCSI-Card-Cable_W0QQitemZ6815519607QQcategoryZ90716QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ebay is good source for cards and 68 - 80 converters.
Mike.
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PeterD
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Need a SCSI controller for my desktop wghich will work w |
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:56:35 -0000, "Angus Comber"
<angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin card
in.
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Doubt that a 160 card won't give you 320 performance. Think about
it... <g> |
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Folkert Rienstra
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject:
Re: Need a SCSI controller for my desktop wghich will work w |
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"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message news:p7hhm15s7b87piav4p7dn8v65jt9lpt101@4ax.com
| Quote: | On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:56:35 -0000, "Angus Comber" <angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote:
Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin card
in.
Doubt that a 160 card won't give you 320 performance. Think about
it... <g
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Is that a riddle?
Or just more of your stupid statements. |
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Jeremy Boden
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject:
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In message <p7hhm15s7b87piav4p7dn8v65jt9lpt101@4ax.com>, PeterD
<peter2@hipson.net> writes
| Quote: | On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:56:35 -0000, "Angus Comber"
angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote:
Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin card
in.
Doubt that a 160 card won't give you 320 performance. Think about
it... <g
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If you only have a couple of drives on the cable, you will find it quite
hard to detect the difference between bus speeds of 160 & 320
<grin.....>
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Jeremy Boden |
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PeterD
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:57 am Post subject:
Re: Need a SCSI controller for my desktop wghich will work w |
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On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 16:59:47 +0100, "Folkert Rienstra"
<see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote:
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Is that a riddle?
Or just more of your stupid statements.
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Ah, Folkert the troll... Fishing, huh? |
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tony wong
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:28 am Post subject:
Re: Need a SCSI controller for my desktop wghich will work w |
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i also have concerns about that.
Now i use Seagate U160 ST173404LW which is bought a few years before.
it only has 30MB average read speed. It is slower than a New ATA drive.
But my P4 PC only come with a PCI slot.
i have question that even the latest U320 drive does not have 160MB/s speed.
what is the point to U320 controller? Grateful for any comments. Thanks a
lot.
tony
"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> 级糶秎ン穝籇:p7hhm15s7b87piav4p7dn8v65jt9lpt101@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:56:35 -0000, "Angus Comber"
angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote:
Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra
Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin
card
in.
Doubt that a 160 card won't give you 320 performance. Think about
it... <g |
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Sunny
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:11 am Post subject:
Re: Need a SCSI controller for my desktop wghich will work w |
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tony wong wrote:
| Quote: | what is the point to U320 controller?
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No point - unless you've attached multiple drives per channel, your
workload causes the drives to be accessed simultaneously, and you've
connected the controller to an appropriately fast bus.
Sunny |
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Folkert Rienstra
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject:
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"tony wong" <x34@netvigator.com> wrote in message news:43694ba2$1@127.0.0.1
| Quote: | i also have concerns about that.
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About what.
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Now i use Seagate U160 ST173404LW which is bought a few years before.
it only has 30MB average read speed.
It is slower than a New ATA drive.
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Which is also faster than an ATA drive 'which is bought a few years before'.
Surprizing, what.
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But my P4 PC only come with a PCI slot.
i have question that even the latest U320 drive does not have 160MB/s speed.
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Of course not. It would be an U640 drive if it was that fast.
Rule of thumb is that a SCSI interface must support 4 drives used simultaniously.
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what is the point to U320 controller?
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Raiding 4 U320 drives.
For single drive at_a_time use an U320 drive can be used with an Ultra2
controller without any noticable difference. For U320 drives that are
faster than 60-70MB/s an U160 controller might be considered but you
probably wont know the difference.
| Quote: | Grateful for any comments. Thanks a lot.
tony
"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> 级糶秎ン穝籇:p7hhm15s7b87piav4p7dn8v65jt9lpt101@4ax.com...
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:56:35 -0000, "Angus Comber" <angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote:
Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin card
in.
Doubt that a 160 card won't give you 320 performance. Think about it... <g |
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Folkert Rienstra
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject:
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"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> wrote in message news:1g6im1hab1tg9dodu8nvfl00pu3po4jpcg@4ax.com
| Quote: | On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 16:59:47 +0100, "Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote:
Is that a riddle?
Or just more of your stupid statements.
Ah, Folkert the troll... Fishing, huh?
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Nah, the troll obviously is the one posting the double negative riddle bait,
that -oh what a surprise- got snipped ... |
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Tony WONG
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:06 am Post subject:
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i just have question about U320 and U160
| Quote: | Which is also faster than an ATA drive 'which is bought a few years
before'.
Surprizing, what.
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My ST173404LW only have 30MB /s but My office new PC ATA drive has 45MB/s by
HD tach software
| Quote: | Raiding 4 U320 drives.
For single drive at_a_time use an U320 drive can be used with an Ultra2
controller without any noticable difference. For U320 drives that are
faster than 60-70MB/s an U160 controller might be considered but you
probably wont know the difference.
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Before your analysis, i thought U320 drive should have 320MB/s. so U320 is
expensive than U160.
Thank you for your writing
"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl>
???????:436a4295$0$97982$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
| Quote: | "tony wong" <x34@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:43694ba2$1@127.0.0.1
i also have concerns about that.
About what.
Now i use Seagate U160 ST173404LW which is bought a few years before.
it only has 30MB average read speed.
It is slower than a New ATA drive.
Which is also faster than an ATA drive 'which is bought a few years
before'.
Surprizing, what.
But my P4 PC only come with a PCI slot.
i have question that even the latest U320 drive does not have 160MB/s
speed.
Of course not. It would be an U640 drive if it was that fast.
Rule of thumb is that a SCSI interface must support 4 drives used
simultaniously.
what is the point to U320 controller?
Raiding 4 U320 drives.
For single drive at_a_time use an U320 drive can be used with an Ultra2
controller without any noticable difference. For U320 drives that are
faster than 60-70MB/s an U160 controller might be considered but you
probably wont know the difference.
Grateful for any comments. Thanks a lot.
tony
"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net
级糶秎ン穝籇:p7hhm15s7b87piav4p7dn8v65jt9lpt101@4ax.com...
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:56:35 -0000, "Angus Comber"
angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote:
Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the
less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach
this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar
disk.
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards
32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin
Ultra Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80
pin card
in.
Doubt that a 160 card won't give you 320 performance. Think about it...
g
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Folkert Rienstra
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject:
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"Tony WONG" <x34@hknet.com> wrote in message news:dkefld$h79$1@nnews.pacific.net.hk
| Quote: | About what.
i just have question about U320 and U160
Which is also faster than an ATA drive 'which is bought a few years before'.
Surprizing, what.
My ST173404LW
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Cheetah73, 5 years old !!!!!
5 year old IDE was doing slightly more than half that.
| Quote: | but My office new PC ATA drive has 45MB/s by HD tach software
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Yeah, so? Did you even bother to read what I said?
Compare like with like.
For Ultra100 IDE like yours that is early_Ultra320/late_Ultra160 for SCSI.
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Raiding 4 U320 drives.
For single drive at_a_time use an U320 drive can be used with an Ultra2
controller without any noticable difference. For U320 drives that are
faster than 60-70MB/s an U160 controller might be considered but you
probably wont know the difference.
Before your analysis, i thought U320 drive should have 320MB/s.
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Why is that?
You also don't think an Ultra133 IDE drive will do 133 MB/s, don't you?
So why would you expect a SCSI drive that has to share with much more devices
on the bus than is the case with IDE to actually be capable of 320MB/s.
| Quote: | so U320 is expensive than U160.
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Because the Ultra 320 is current and the Ultra160 is old inventory surplus.
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Thank you for your writing
"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> ???????:436a4295$0$97982$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
"tony wong" <x34@netvigator.com> wrote in message news:43694ba2$1@127.0.0.1
i also have concerns about that.
About what.
Now i use Seagate U160 ST173404LW which is bought a few years before.
it only has 30MB average read speed.
It is slower than a New ATA drive.
Which is also faster than an ATA drive 'which is bought a few years before'.
Surprizing, what.
But my P4 PC only come with a PCI slot.
i have question that even the latest U320 drive does not have 160MB/s
speed.
Of course not. It would be an U640 drive if it was that fast.
Rule of thumb is that a SCSI interface must support 4 drives used
simultaniously.
what is the point to U320 controller?
Raiding 4 U320 drives.
For single drive at_a_time use an U320 drive can be used with an Ultra2
controller without any noticable difference. For U320 drives that are
faster than 60-70MB/s an U160 controller might be considered but you
probably wont know the difference.
Grateful for any comments. Thanks a lot.
tony
"PeterD" <peter2@hipson.net> 级糶秎ン穝籇:p7hhm15s7b87piav4p7dn8v65jt9lpt101@4ax.com...
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:56:35 -0000, "Angus Comber" <angus@NOSPAMiteloffice.com> wrote:
Hello
I am having trouble working out which SCSI card I would need (ie the less
cost the better).
I have a Seagate Cheetah Ultra320 80 pin SCSI card. I need to attach this
drive to my test machine and copy the partition to another similar disk.
Would the Adaptec 29160 SCSI card work? It says it is 64bit (32-bit
compatible). Does that mean it will still fit in my desktop boards 32 bit
PCI slot? It says it has internal connectors: 68pin LVD, 68 pin Ultra Wide
and 50 pin Ultra. Can I buy a cable/converter so I can plug my 80 pin card
in.
Doubt that a 160 card won't give you 320 performance. Think about it...
g |
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