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One of the early Canon BC-4xxx series ... the twin black/color cartridge can
be changed for one single black cartridge. Parallel port only!
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On 29 Oct 2005 15:35:53 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:

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Guest · Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:37 am Post subject: Re: monochrome (black) ink jet

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:27:59 -0700 Bob Headrick <bobh@proaxis.com> wrote:

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|> My printing use will only be occasional, but will probably involve
|> 200 to 500 pages in the few days it does get used. Any special advice
|> for that kind of usage?
|
| At that usage for an inkjet I would look at the DeskJet 6540, see
| http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/18972-236251-236261-14438-f51-357210.html

Armed with your list I browsed the HP printerlineup and indeed that
model looked like a good match.

| Depending on your usage you may also be interested in the DeskJet 6540dt (with
| duplexer for automatic two-sided printing) or one of the 6840 versions
| (networking with or without duplexing). See
| http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF02a/18972-236251-236261.html

I decided that my two-side printing is sufficiently rare that I don't
need the "dt" version.

| BTW, the DeskJet printer will come with both black and color cartridges
| included. You do not need to install the color cartridge.

I was looking at them at one of the retail stores (Staples) the day
before the post and noted that every model of ink jet printed was
listed as being sold _without_ any ink cartridges. I just assumed
this was a practice to make printer prices seem as low as possible,
while the real profits (as we know) are made in selling the ink.

| How often will you print 200-500 pages per day? If more than a few times a
| month a low end laser might be a better choice. In normal mode the #96
| cartridge will deliver about 800 pages, perhaps twice that in draft mode.
| Draft mode would probably be acceptable for most uses, on the DeskJet's draft
| mode looks pretty good.

Draft mode would be to check formatting before making a final copy.
Almost all the printing would be for ultimate purposes of mailing the
printed copy to someone. I would expect to make use of draft mode
perhaps 20% to 40% of the time.

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Guest · Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:39 am Post subject: Re: monochrome (black) ink jet

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:41:29 GMT measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:

| Bob Headrick wrote:
|
|><phil-news-nospam@ipal.net> wrote in message
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|>
|>
|>>My printing use will only be occasional, but will probably involve
|>>200 to 500 pages in the few days it does get used. Any special advice
|>>for that kind of usage?
|>>
|>>
|>
|>At that usage for an inkjet I would look at the DeskJet 6540, see
|>http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/18972-236251-236261-14438-f51-357210.html
|>
|>Depending on your usage you may also be interested in the DeskJet 6540dt (with
|>duplexer for automatic two-sided printing) or one of the 6840 versions
|>(networking with or without duplexing). See
|>http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF02a/18972-236251-236261.html
|>
|>BTW, the DeskJet printer will come with both black and color cartridges
|>included. You do not need to install the color cartridge.
|>
|>How often will you print 200-500 pages per day? If more than a few times a
|>month a low end laser might be a better choice.
|>
| I HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT BUT THIS GUYS SEEMS TO BE A PERFECT CANDIDATE
| FOR DA CHURCH

Maybe if you were to clean out the gluey gunk from under your caps lock key,
more people might take you seriously.

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Guest · Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:44 am Post subject: Re: monochrome (black) ink jet

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:49:04 -0400 MCheu <mpcheu@yahoo.com> wrote:
| On 29 Oct 2005 15:35:53 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:
|
|>On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 05:08:37 GMT measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
|>|
|>|
|>| phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:
|>|
|>|>I'm looking for a monochrome (e.g. black only only) ink jet printer.
|>|>Connection by parallel port, USB, Firewire, or ethernet (TCP/IP) is OK.
|>|>
|>|>A color printer with a single separate black cartridge that can function
|>|>in monochrome mode with the color cartridge(s) missing would be acceptable.
|>|>But I understand that most (or all) color ink jet printers won't function
|>|>if a cartridge is missing.
|>|>
|>|>
|>| BUY AN HP WITH A BLACK AND TRICOLOR CART. LET THE TRICOLOR RUN OUT OR
|>| DO NOT USE COLOR. THE BLACK WILL PRINT EVEN IF THE TRICOLOR IS EMPTY
|>| AND YOU WILL NOT BURN OUT ANY PRINT HEAD THAT HAS ANY VALUE.
|>
|>I'd like to no sacrifice a color cartridge for such a purpose. I'd like
|>to be coming home with only a couple black cartridges after buying the
|>printer (they seem to be sold w/o any cartridges anymore, apparently to
|>make the initial prices as low as possible for competition purposes, so
|>they can rape your wallet later on the cartridges).
|
| That's extremely rare, unless you buy it refurbed, or used. The
| included cartridges are sometimes lower capacity than the retail ones,
| but if you buy a new printer (and I mean NEW, not "new to you"), you
| should get a full complement of cartridges.

I was at an office supply store a few days ago and every printer sold
was without any cartridges included. That seems to be their modus
operandi for deeply discounted pricing. I'm sure the printer makers
would not care so much because they know people need to buy those ink
cartridges, and that's where the real money is made, and still very few
will know about refilling or consider skipping the color cartridge.

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