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Guest · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:14 am Post subject: monochrome (black) ink jet

I'm looking for a monochrome (e.g. black only only) ink jet printer.
Connection by parallel port, USB, Firewire, or ethernet (TCP/IP) is OK.

A color printer with a single separate black cartridge that can function
in monochrome mode with the color cartridge(s) missing would be acceptable.
But I understand that most (or all) color ink jet printers won't function
if a cartridge is missing.

Anyone every heard of either such printer?

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measekite · Guest

MORE DETAIL BUT THE SAME AS WHAT I SAID.

Bob Headrick wrote:

Guest · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: monochrome (black) ink jet

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:59:22 -0000 Tony <> wrote:

| Phil
| There are some HP printers that will function without a colour cartridge and I
| believe some that you can run with a grayscale cartridge instead of the colour
| cartridge.
| Bob Headrick has posted this information here in the past, alternatively try
| talking to a HP dealer.
| Tony

I've tried several stores around here (office stores, electronics stores)
that sell computers and peripherals, and all of them are totally clueless
on the subject. But that is typical of low pay sales people.

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Guest · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: monochrome (black) ink jet

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:43:42 GMT Roy <royphoty@iona-guesthouse.co.uk> wrote:
| <phil-news-nospam@ipal.net> wrote in message
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|> I'm looking for a monochrome (e.g. black only only) ink jet printer.
|> Connection by parallel port, USB, Firewire, or ethernet (TCP/IP) is OK.
|>
|> A color printer with a single separate black cartridge that can function
|> in monochrome mode with the color cartridge(s) missing would be
|> acceptable.
|> But I understand that most (or all) color ink jet printers won't function
|> if a cartridge is missing.
|>
|> Anyone every heard of either such printer?
|>
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| Hi.
|
| On a shelf, right above this monitor, I have a Canon BJC 4300. It can take
| one Black cart, or one 3 Col Photo Cart, or a Printhead with a small Black
| tank and small a 3 Col tank.
|
| All these are still available, although I suspect it is quite an elderly
| machine. I don't know if it still works, and don't intend buying a cart to
| find out.
|
| If you happen to be in the West of Scotland, you would be more than welcome
| to empty that space on my shelf.
|
| Roy G

Thanks for the info. I happen to be way too far west for this exchange
to be practical, though.

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Guest · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: monochrome (black) ink jet

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 05:08:37 GMT measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
|
|
| phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:
|
|>I'm looking for a monochrome (e.g. black only only) ink jet printer.
|>Connection by parallel port, USB, Firewire, or ethernet (TCP/IP) is OK.
|>
|>A color printer with a single separate black cartridge that can function
|>in monochrome mode with the color cartridge(s) missing would be acceptable.
|>But I understand that most (or all) color ink jet printers won't function
|>if a cartridge is missing.
|>
|>
| BUY AN HP WITH A BLACK AND TRICOLOR CART. LET THE TRICOLOR RUN OUT OR
| DO NOT USE COLOR. THE BLACK WILL PRINT EVEN IF THE TRICOLOR IS EMPTY
| AND YOU WILL NOT BURN OUT ANY PRINT HEAD THAT HAS ANY VALUE.

I'd like to no sacrifice a color cartridge for such a purpose. I'd like
to be coming home with only a couple black cartridges after buying the
printer (they seem to be sold w/o any cartridges anymore, apparently to
make the initial prices as low as possible for competition purposes, so
they can rape your wallet later on the cartridges).

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Guest · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: monochrome (black) ink jet

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 05:46:26 -0000 Tony <> wrote:

| Phil
| Read what Bob Headrick has said but please ignore Measekite who has given you
| bad advice. It is essential that you choose the right printer, if you buy just
| any HP printer you may not get one that will print without a colour cartridge.
| Measekite's message suggests that any HP printer will do but that is not
| correct in common with most of his posts.
| Tony

He posted in all caps. Worse than top-posting (IMHO). That already told
me about him what I needed to know :-)

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Guest · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: monochrome (black) ink jet

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:43:54 -0700 Bob Headrick <bobh@proaxis.com> wrote:

| <phil-news-nospam@ipal.net> wrote in message
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|
|> I'm looking for a monochrome (e.g. black only only) ink jet printer.
|> Connection by parallel port, USB, Firewire, or ethernet (TCP/IP) is OK.
|>
|> A color printer with a single separate black cartridge that can function
|> in monochrome mode with the color cartridge(s) missing would be acceptable.
|> But I understand that most (or all) color ink jet printers won't function
|> if a cartridge is missing.
|>
|> Anyone every heard of either such printer?
|
| HP DeskJet and PhotoSmart printers that use the number 56, 92, 94, or 96 (or
| the equivalent regionalized) black cartridges can operate with only the black
| cartridge installed (and an empty space for the color cartridge).

That is what I want to do ... not have a color cartridge at all (as opposed
to having one and letting it run empty that Mister Uppity Caps suggested).

| Specifically, I know the following support this feature:
|
| DeskJet 450, 3930, 3940, 3840, 5150, 5440, 5550, 5650, 5740, 5940, 6500 series,
| 6620, 6800 series, 9800 series
|
| Photosmart 7150, 7350, 7550, 8150, 8450, 8750

I'll write these down and go shopping again. Previous shopping attempts
found only clueless sales people in various stores.

My printing use will only be occaisional, but will probably involve
200 to 500 pages in the few days it does get used. Any special advice
for that kind of usage?

| In the documentation this is referred to as "reserve mode". Most of the
| all-in-one and PSC units that use the above cartridges will also print or
| receive faxes in reserve mode but will not copy or send faxes in reserve mode.

That seems a bit strange. I could understand maybe the copying ability
being compromised in reserve mode, but the sending of faxes I'd think
should be doable even if there is no cartdrige at all (and no blank paper
to print anything on).

Fortunately, I have no need of any fax features. I've only needed to
receive and send a fax once since 1993 and I did that through Kinkos.

| The printers that use individual ink tanks such as the Business Inkjet models
| or the models that use the #15 or 45 cartridges do not support reserve mode.
|
| Regards,
| Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
|
|
|
|

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