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Knightcrawler
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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I buy a Canon IP4000 for $50 after rebates. I have the option to refill or
use OEM.
The carts cost $12 each, I go through 4 black pigment carts and 8 carts of
each color. So 4 x $12 = $48 and 4 x $12 x 8 = $384
$384 + $48 = $432 of Canon OEM.
The Refill kit cost me $35 with shipping so: $432 - $35 = $397
So I have save almost $400 that is more then enough to buy another printer
or maybe a Athlon 64 3800 x2 !!!!!!! |
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zakezuke
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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| Quote: | The Refill kit cost me $35 with shipping so: $432 - $35 = $397
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I tried this with him before. Didn't work... he refuses to admit there
is a savings even though people like my self and others have already
used enough ink without clogging to justify the purchace of a new head
or a new printer without loss.
Where are you getting your refill kit from? I spent more for mine and
got less ink. |
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Shooter
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:54 am Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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It was my impression that you advised others not to post or reply to this
person, so why have you had a change of heart.
"Knightcrawler" <Knightcrawler@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3Di8f.128$p37.31@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
| Quote: | I buy a Canon IP4000 for $50 after rebates. I have the option to refill or
use OEM.
The carts cost $12 each, I go through 4 black pigment carts and 8 carts of
each color. So 4 x $12 = $48 and 4 x $12 x 8 = $384
$384 + $48 = $432 of Canon OEM.
The Refill kit cost me $35 with shipping so: $432 - $35 = $397
So I have save almost $400 that is more then enough to buy another printer
or maybe a Athlon 64 3800 x2 !!!!!!!
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Shooter
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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It's bad enough knowing this Troll is allowed to use this newsgroup but
quite unacceptable when he alters copyright in what others have written. You
are way of beam when you say occasional troll baiting, this guy is way out
of order, so if you are lookin for exciting perhaps you should stay with
alt.erotica.hamster or if you ever have a printer problem see your article
taken over by this moron.
"Impmon" <impmon@digi.mon> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:54:19 +0000 (UTC), "Shooter"
photoman52003-shoot@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
It was my impression that you advised others not to post or reply to this
person, so why have you had a change of heart.
If there isn't any occasional troll baiting, this NG would be about as
exciting as alt.erotica.hamster
Someone got to start a flame war with a resident troll. :) I admit
I've fed that troll a few times, he is fun when you tease him. Like
dangling a piece of string in front of a cat.
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When you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it's already
too late. - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX
To reply, replace digi.mon with phreaker.net |
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Impmon
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:54:19 +0000 (UTC), "Shooter"
<photoman52003-shoot@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | It was my impression that you advised others not to post or reply to this
person, so why have you had a change of heart.
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If there isn't any occasional troll baiting, this NG would be about as
exciting as alt.erotica.hamster
Someone got to start a flame war with a resident troll. :) I admit
I've fed that troll a few times, he is fun when you tease him. Like
dangling a piece of string in front of a cat.
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When you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it's already
too late. - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX
To reply, replace digi.mon with phreaker.net |
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Taliesyn
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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Knightcrawler wrote:
| Quote: | I buy a Canon IP4000 for $50 after rebates. I have the option to refill or
use OEM.
The carts cost $12 each, I go through 4 black pigment carts and 8 carts of
each color. So 4 x $12 = $48 and 4 x $12 x 8 = $384
$384 + $48 = $432 of Canon OEM.
The Refill kit cost me $35 with shipping so: $432 - $35 = $397
So I have save almost $400 that is more then enough to buy another printer
or maybe a Athlon 64 3800 x2 !!!!!!!
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Don't waste your time on Measekite. No matter if you saved, say, the
exaggerated amount of $1,000,000 using a refill kit, he would still sing
you the same tired song: "BUT IT'LL CLOG YOUR PRINTHEAD" (ignoring the
fact that you're $999,900 ahead in the deal and ignoring the proven fact
that your risk of clogging is mostly based on how often you use your
printer and not the brand you use).
-Taliesyn |
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irwell
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:33:52 -0400, Taliesyn <taliesyn4@netscape.net>
wrote:
| Quote: | Knightcrawler wrote:
I buy a Canon IP4000 for $50 after rebates. I have the option to refill or
use OEM.
The carts cost $12 each, I go through 4 black pigment carts and 8 carts of
each color. So 4 x $12 = $48 and 4 x $12 x 8 = $384
$384 + $48 = $432 of Canon OEM.
The Refill kit cost me $35 with shipping so: $432 - $35 = $397
So I have save almost $400 that is more then enough to buy another printer
or maybe a Athlon 64 3800 x2 !!!!!!!
Don't waste your time on Measekite. No matter if you saved, say, the
exaggerated amount of $1,000,000 using a refill kit, he would still sing
you the same tired song: "BUT IT'LL CLOG YOUR PRINTHEAD" (ignoring the
fact that you're $999,900 ahead in the deal and ignoring the proven fact
that your risk of clogging is mostly based on how often you use your
printer and not the brand you use).
-Taliesyn
Whilst Measekit does go overboard on occassion there are some |
truths in what he says. Clogged printheads are only part of the
problem, deteriotation of print quality is a very real possibility
even with some of the better second source suppliers.
Using the OEM cartrdiges and OEM paper is the only sure way
of obtaining consistent quality color prints.
This has just been brought home to me this week as I took
delivery of a Pixma ip6600d, previously I had been using
the Canon s820 with Carrotink cartridges, and off the
shelf glossy photo paper.
The supplied sample Canon Photo pro paper has churned out
prints that are superbly done. |
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Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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In article <djtfeh$5tq$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
"Shooter" <photoman52003-shoot@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | It's bad enough knowing this Troll is allowed to use this newsgroup
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"is allowed to use this newsgroup"?
Whatever happened to freedom?
No one "allows" anyone else to use this newsgroup. It's a public park.
What would you have--a gatekeeper making decisions on who can and can't
use this newsgroup? |
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Shooter
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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Well Mr. Shagnasty, with a handle like yours what else can one say. I also
see you alter copyright. you talk of freedom do you really know what the
meaning is, it goes both ways. BTW do you know what [snip] is used for,
obviously not.
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-F36D75.12541428102005@nntp3.usenetserver.com...
| Quote: | In article <djtfeh$5tq$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>,
"Shooter" <photoman52003-shoot@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
It's bad enough knowing this Troll is allowed to use this newsgroup
"is allowed to use this newsgroup"?
Whatever happened to freedom?
No one "allows" anyone else to use this newsgroup. It's a public park.
What would you have--a gatekeeper making decisions on who can and can't
use this newsgroup?
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Frank
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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irwell wrote:
| Quote: | truths in what he says. Clogged printheads are only part of the
problem, deteriotation of print quality is a very real possibility
even with some of the better second source suppliers.
Using the OEM cartrdiges and OEM paper is the only sure way
of obtaining consistent quality color prints.
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That is simply not true!
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This has just been brought home to me this week as I took
delivery of a Pixma ip6600d, previously I had been using
the Canon s820 with Carrotink cartridges, and off the
shelf glossy photo paper.
The supplied sample Canon Photo pro paper has churned out
prints that are superbly done.
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Well dud...do you think it has anything to do with the fact that the
ip6600d is simply a better newer photo printer than your old s820?
Frank |
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irwell
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:20 am Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:23:33 -0700, Frank <fb@notspam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | irwell wrote:
truths in what he says. Clogged printheads are only part of the
problem, deteriotation of print quality is a very real possibility
even with some of the better second source suppliers.
Using the OEM cartrdiges and OEM paper is the only sure way
of obtaining consistent quality color prints.
That is simply not true!
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It was for me, the trouble with using other supplies is hitting on
the right combination, in other words, you have to kiss a lot
of toads before you find the prince. Carrot ink cartridges seemed Ok
for while but then the quality fell off.
| Quote: |
This has just been brought home to me this week as I took
delivery of a Pixma ip6600d, previously I had been using
the Canon s820 with Carrotink cartridges, and off the
shelf glossy photo paper.
The supplied sample Canon Photo pro paper has churned out
prints that are superbly done.
Well dud(?)No need for the insult, try to keep the debate on an adult level.
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....do you think it has anything to do with the fact that the
| Quote: | ip6600d is simply a better newer photo printer than your old s820?
Frank
Off course it is, but the old S820 printed pretty good pics when new |
using the OEM inks and paper. Trying to save a few cents by going the
secondary source gave mixed results, some were good, actually won a
couple of prizes at the local fair (not the acme of the photo world
for sure but the quality wasn't bad), but it fell off pretty rapidly.
Did all the cleaning etc., as recommended. |
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Taliesyn
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:11 am Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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irwell wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:33:52 -0400, Taliesyn <taliesyn4@netscape.net
wrote:
Knightcrawler wrote:
I buy a Canon IP4000 for $50 after rebates. I have the option to refill or
use OEM.
The carts cost $12 each, I go through 4 black pigment carts and 8 carts of
each color. So 4 x $12 = $48 and 4 x $12 x 8 = $384
$384 + $48 = $432 of Canon OEM.
The Refill kit cost me $35 with shipping so: $432 - $35 = $397
So I have save almost $400 that is more then enough to buy another printer
or maybe a Athlon 64 3800 x2 !!!!!!!
Don't waste your time on Measekite. No matter if you saved, say, the
exaggerated amount of $1,000,000 using a refill kit, he would still sing
you the same tired song: "BUT IT'LL CLOG YOUR PRINTHEAD" (ignoring the
fact that you're $999,900 ahead in the deal and ignoring the proven fact
that your risk of clogging is mostly based on how often you use your
printer and not the brand you use).
-Taliesyn
Whilst Measekit does go overboard on occassion there are some
truths in what he says. Clogged printheads are only part of the
problem, deteriotation of print quality is a very real possibility
even with some of the better second source suppliers.
Using the OEM cartrdiges and OEM paper is the only sure way
of obtaining consistent quality color prints.
This has just been brought home to me this week as I took
delivery of a Pixma ip6600d, previously I had been using
the Canon s820 with Carrotink cartridges, and off the
shelf glossy photo paper.
The supplied sample Canon Photo pro paper has churned out
prints that are superbly done.
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Your use of "off the shelf" photo paper might actually be the difference
in this case. Some papers are slightly better, some much worse than
Canon Photo Paper Pro. For example, my dollar store paper (yes, 20 4x6
sheets for $1.00) actually gives a better printed result than Canon's
paper at the same settings. The only drawback to the dollar store paper
is that a full 24hrs is recommended for drying. It's quite fragile to
the touch and is destroyed by water droplet. But printouts are stunning.
Once framed they're not a problem.
-Taliesyn |
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drc023
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:36 am Post subject:
Re: Hey Measekite let's do some math |
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I agree that using the right combination of ink and paper does make a
difference. In your case using Canon OEM probably does make more sense than
using Carrot ink cartridges since they cost nearly as much as Canon tanks.
They have a decent track record, but nothing to write home about. You can
obtain far better results at a drastically lower price using quality bulk
ink to refill empty cartridges. Refilling empty BCI-3/6 tanks is so easy
that anyone with normal functioning abilities can refill an entire set in
less than five minutes without any mess whatsoever. Ink such as Formulabs,
Hobbicolors, MIS, Image Specialists have all been shown to have results
comparable to that of Canon OEM ink. On some papers the results may be
superior. Paper makes a huge difference. Even the troll proclaims that
Costco Kirkland paper (Ilford) is outstanding. Ilford, Red River, Office
Depot Professional, Konica, some of the Jet Print etc... are excellent
papers. I've also had a few s820's (still do) and they are decent printers.
I also have a couple of iP3000's, an iP4000 and an i950 and all of them are
better than the s820.
--
Ron
"irwell" <hook@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:23:33 -0700, Frank <fb@notspam.com> wrote:
irwell wrote:
truths in what he says. Clogged printheads are only part of the
problem, deteriotation of print quality is a very real possibility
even with some of the better second source suppliers.
Using the OEM cartrdiges and OEM paper is the only sure way
of obtaining consistent quality color prints.
That is simply not true!
It was for me, the trouble with using other supplies is hitting on
the right combination, in other words, you have to kiss a lot
of toads before you find the prince. Carrot ink cartridges seemed Ok
for while but then the quality fell off.
This has just been brought home to me this week as I took
delivery of a Pixma ip6600d, previously I had been using
the Canon s820 with Carrotink cartridges, and off the
shelf glossy photo paper.
The supplied sample Canon Photo pro paper has churned out
prints that are superbly done.
Well dud(?)No need for the insult, try to keep the debate on an adult
level.
...do you think it has anything to do with the fact that the
ip6600d is simply a better newer photo printer than your old s820?
Frank
Off course it is, but the old S820 printed pretty good pics when new
using the OEM inks and paper. Trying to save a few cents by going the
secondary source gave mixed results, some were good, actually won a
couple of prizes at the local fair (not the acme of the photo world
for sure but the quality wasn't bad), but it fell off pretty rapidly.
Did all the cleaning etc., as recommended.
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Knightcrawler
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:04 am Post subject:
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600 ml from Alotofthings.com for $34.60 shipped. :-)
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The Refill kit cost me $35 with shipping so: $432 - $35 = $397
I tried this with him before. Didn't work... he refuses to admit there
is a savings even though people like my self and others have already
used enough ink without clogging to justify the purchace of a new head
or a new printer without loss.
Where are you getting your refill kit from? I spent more for mine and
got less ink.
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measekite
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:11 am Post subject:
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hooter wrote:
| Quote: | It was my impression that you advised others not to post or reply to this
person, so why have you had a change of heart.
"Knightcrawler" <Knightcrawler@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3Di8f.128$p37.31@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
I buy a Canon IP4000 for $50 after rebates. I have the option to refill or
use OEM.
The carts cost $12 each, I go through 4 black pigment carts and 8 carts of
each color. So 4 x $12 = $48 and 4 x $12 x 8 = $384
$384 + $48 = $432 of Canon OEM.
The Refill kit cost me $35 with shipping so: $432 - $35 = $397
So I have save almost $400 that is more then enough to buy another printer
or maybe a Athlon 64 3800 x2 !!!!!!!
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