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measekite
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject:
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Taliesyn wrote:
| Quote: | zakezuke wrote:
Some papers are slightly better, some much worse than
Canon Photo Paper Pro. For example, my dollar store paper (yes, 20 4x6
sheets for $1.00) actually gives a better printed result than Canon's
paper at the same settings.
doubt that
I don't. Lately i've been seeing Hammermill sticky paper for $2.00 for
20 4x6 at biglots, and the same shop carries Illford papers as well.
Given that Kirkland Photo Paper is 17c/sheet or so it is clearly
possible to make a buck off photo paper @ $1.00 for 20 4x6s. And I can
also believe that Taliesyn likes it better.
And I proved it by even using Canon's own inks on this paper in a side
by side test with Photo Paper Pro. The Canon paper left a kind of foggy
haze over the photo, the dollar store paper didn't.
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MORE LIES AND BULLSHIT FROM THE KID WHO NEEDS GLASSES
| Quote: | This can ONLY BE
SEEN (noticed) in side by side comparisons. You will not realize it's
there until you compared the two in good lighting and noticed one is
clearer, and it's NOT the Canon one. Like I said the only drawback is
this paper's poor handing/drying characteristics.
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AND THAT IS ENOUGH
| Quote: | Because of this I
generally only use it for practice prints, preferring the dry-out-of-the
-printer Kirkland paper. Cost per sheet is about 6 cents for the dollar
store paper, 7 cents for Kirkland, and your first born for Canon Photo
Paper Pro.
-Taliesyn |
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measekite
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Like I said the only drawback is this paper's poor handing/drying characteristics.
Yes, and the kirkland paper is somewhat waterfast. I've only done one
test of this and there was a bit of bleeding running a print under
water
NOT WITH CANON OEM INKS |
| Quote: | but this could have been in part to it not being 100% dry. The
Canon PR-101 paper on the other hand I couldn't notice any bleeding,
but in all fairness it's been sitting on the sill since late june I
believe.
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zakezuke
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:30 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | not with canon oem inks
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Actually.. yes with canon oem inks. I have oem ink in my other
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drc023
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:54 am Post subject:
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The inexpensive paper described by Taliesyn is a swellable polymer type of
paper. Canon Photo Paper Pro, Kirkland, Ilford (sold at Sam's), Office Depot
Professional, and any other papers identified as "instant dry" are
microporous. Microporous paper is highly resistant to water damage.
Swellable polymer has better fade resistance, but due to its gel coating has
absolutely no resistance to moisture.
--
Ron
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Like I said the only drawback is this paper's poor handing/drying
characteristics.
Yes, and the kirkland paper is somewhat waterfast. I've only done one
test of this and there was a bit of bleeding running a print under
water but this could have been in part to it not being 100% dry. The
Canon PR-101 paper on the other hand I couldn't notice any bleeding,
but in all fairness it's been sitting on the sill since late june I
believe.
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Taliesyn
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
Photo Papers (was: Hey Measekite let's do some math) |
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drc023 wrote:
| Quote: | The inexpensive paper described by Taliesyn is a swellable polymer type of
paper. Canon Photo Paper Pro, Kirkland, Ilford (sold at Sam's), Office Depot
Professional, and any other papers identified as "instant dry" are
microporous. Microporous paper is highly resistant to water damage.
Swellable polymer has better fade resistance, but due to its gel coating has
absolutely no resistance to moisture.
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Precisely. I have it also from an eBay seller and this one is plastic
backed. Run it under warm water and ALL of the gel coating washes right
off and you're left with a spiffy sheet of white plastic that I don't
know what to do with. :-)
The polymer papers I have seem to print a "clearer" image. Don't know if
this is the rule or the luck of the draw.
-Taliesyn |
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drc023
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:35 am Post subject:
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Canon photo inks are dye based as are all the third party photo inks. All of
them will bleed when exposed to moisture. Any moisture resistance is due
solely to the paper characteristics. On microporous papers, ink will not run
or bleed when exposed to moisture. On swellable polymer paper, ink will not
only bleed, the entire coating can be easily washed away with running water.
--
Ron
"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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zakezuke wrote:
Like I said the only drawback is this paper's poor handing/drying
characteristics.
Yes, and the kirkland paper is somewhat waterfast. I've only done one
test of this and there was a bit of bleeding running a print under
water
NOT WITH CANON OEM INKS
but this could have been in part to it not being 100% dry. The
Canon PR-101 paper on the other hand I couldn't notice any bleeding,
but in all fairness it's been sitting on the sill since late june I
believe.
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:02 am Post subject:
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| Knightcrawler, Where can you get an IP4000 for $50 after rebate? |
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:19 am Post subject:
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Knightcrawler,
Where did you find an ip4000 for $50?
Thanks |
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Knightcrawler
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject:
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Sadly most of the deals for IPx000 Pixma's are gone. They had them during
spring and summer by me. Now the only ones I see are on the deals and steals
table. You might get lucky and get one at close out.
They shelf now has the new IP4200 and IP5200.
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<JimKingsley@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Knightcrawler, Where can you get an IP4000 for $50 after rebate?
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Knightcrawler
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject:
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Sadly most of the deals for IPx000 Pixma's are gone. They had them during
spring and summer by me. Now the only ones I see are on the deals and steals
table. You might get lucky and get one at close out.
They shelf now has the new IP4200 and IP5200.
......
<KingsBrew@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Knightcrawler,
Where did you find an ip4000 for $50?
Thanks
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measekite
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:05 am Post subject:
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Taliesyn wrote:
| Quote: | drc023 wrote:
The inexpensive paper described by Taliesyn is a swellable polymer
type of paper. Canon Photo Paper Pro, Kirkland, Ilford (sold at
Sam's), Office Depot Professional, and any other papers identified as
"instant dry" are microporous. Microporous paper is highly resistant
to water damage. Swellable polymer has better fade resistance, but
due to its gel coating has absolutely no resistance to moisture.
Precisely. I have it also from an eBay seller and this one is plastic
backed. Run it under warm water and ALL of the gel coating washes
right off and you're left with a spiffy sheet of white plastic that I
don't
know what to do with. :-)
The polymer papers I have seem to print a "clearer" image. Don't know if
this is the rule or the luck of the draw.
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YOU CANNOT TELL ANYTHING CAUSE YOU DO NOT USE FACTORY INK
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