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measekite
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | So if Print-Rite is clearly the manufacturer of their own brand of
products, otherwise why would Epson want to be suing them,
ASK EPSON
Epson doesn't come here and post about this lawsuit. You did. Are you
telling us *now* you really have no idea what it's about? If so why
are you so keen on posting this link every chance you get?
The race is on and you get the POLE POSITION |
| Quote: | Why are you lie about it when you say Epson won when Print-Rite
settled?
WHAT? |
| Quote: | Do you just not understand the only way to violate a patent is to
manufacturer something, something someone else applied for a patent
for?
WHAT? |
| Quote: | Epson had a complaint about patent violations, which means in the most
simple terms that someone else was manufacturing something that only
Epson had the right to. So what you are saying when you bring up this
?case? {was it even bought to trial} you are advertising that
Print-Rite made something so identical to Epson no one could tell it a
part.
NAW |
| Quote: | Now I personaly *thought* it was a trademark issue... chips with the
word "epson" on them so the printer wouldn't react differently to them,
but if you say Print-Rite lost a lawsuit (not exactly true they
settled) about them violating patents... you are saying they are
manufacturer... and just you said Pelikan was a brand Print-Rite must
also be a namebrand too.
I JUST POSTED ABOUT 4 TO 6 WORDS. HOW MANY DID YOU WRITE? |
HA HA HA HA |
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zakezuke
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | For whatever reason you think of ICMI and LCD as name brands.
*I NEVER HEARD OF THEM BUT I AM SURE THEY ARE NOT BRANDS*
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I've never heard of them either, but you said they were name brands...
which I guess techncialy they are because they are clearly disclosed as
being manufactured by Nu-Kote.
| Quote: | I REALLY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INK
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Then why do you post over 20 times a day talking about it? Really! |
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zakezuke
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Measkite said: Snipped stuff
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What about brother? Don't they count?
And you said Pelikan is a brand, and you spam about Print-rite being a
brand that epson sued for patent violations. |
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zakezuke
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
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Measkete said: Snipped stuff
If you are going to site a company for patent violations... you are
admiting freely they manufacturer the product. So you freely admit
Print-rite manufacturers their ink. You also freely admit Pelikan is a
brand, which is reasonable as apparently you can get it in both office
max and office depot. Since you agree Pelikan is a brand, and you
freely admit Print-rite is a brand, Nu-Kote must also be a brand since
they were named with Pelikan in another Epson lawsuit. So in Measkite
land these are all brands. So we are agreed... even using the strict
Measekite's standard Print-rite Pelikan and Nu-kote are brands.
It's good that you can admit you were wrong, now don't you feel better? |
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measekite
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measkite said: Stuff no one wants to read <SNIP
Why are you talking about Cannons? Near as i'm aware these companies
make arms.
For whatever reason you think of ICMI and LCD as name brands.
*I NEVER HEARD OF THEM BUT I AM SURE THEY ARE NOT BRANDS* |
| Quote: | Perhaps
they are in Texas but to be honest I've never heard of them.
THE MAVERICKS WON |
| Quote: | I know you hate aftermarket ink with a passion,
I REALLY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INK. I THINK THAT THE VENDORS ARE |
UNPROFESSIONAL AND THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT (MOST OF THE PEOPLE) ARE
TOTAL FOOLS. THE FEW THAT ARE NOT FOOLS ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO
GAMBLE ON A PRINT CLOG BECAUSE OF THEIR ULTRA HIGH USAGE.
IF I WAS A PROFESSIONAL I WOULD USE OEM INK AND PASS THE EXTRA COST ON
TO MY CUSTOMERS. I WOULD NOT SUBJECT MY CUSTOMERS TO INFERIORITY. BUT I
AM SURE THERE ARE MANY THAT ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR NARCISTIC SELF AND THE
DOLLAR.
| Quote: | but if you are going to
provide proof that Prite-rite manufacturers thier own product... the
same proof you provide for Print-rite also applies to Nu-Kote.
I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE YOU ARE CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION. |
TRIM
DRIVEL NOT WORTH THE SPACE |
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Davy
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject:
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Brand, Manufacturer, Maker or Label.....how about a "Record Label",
RCA, Columbia, Parlophone..?
Ooops sorry folks, they'er maker's or manufacturer's but never
label's.... silly me, a label's a "sticker" or a "tag" but never a
"stamp".
They make the ink, put it in a bottle and sell it...!
Whats the difference between a bottle of Pelikan and Newcastle Brown,
apart from one being ink and the other making hairs grow on the palm
of your hand..and good stuff it is too...!
Davy |
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zakezuke
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | i really do not care about the ink. i think that the vendors are unprofessional and the
people that support (most of the people) are total fools.
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Which is still why I don't understand why you don't consider nu-kote to
be a brand. I can understand why you think Pelikan is a brand... they
are a multi-national corporation that have been manufacturing and
formulating ink for over 70 years. Yet Nu-Kote is not dispite their
clear relationship, and their discosure of brands they sell their
product under.
| Quote: | if i was a professional i would use OEM ink and pass the extra cost on to my
customers.
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If you were a professional what?
If you were a professional... you would either have some clue about the
options available or you would seek advice from someone who does. And
if you were a professional we would not even be discussing some of the
lowest bid solutions, esp what your obsessed with which are consumer
grade goods.
And this is where with all due respect you are obsessed... you have an
opinion based under the assumotion that a "professional" would use when
you don't have any idea your self what they use. Hell your using
professional like some sort of buzz word when there are a ton of
profitable applications for printing... and yet you are giving this
advice to people who either are already making a profit from their work
(photographers and artists) or soccer moms who for what ever crazy
reason what to print off bithday cards at a price less than halmark.
And this is why you are wrong... because they either know more than you
do or just don't care. Here is a hint... someone using an ip4000 isn't
likely part of any sort of great enterprise.
You sir with the upmost respect, haven't used anything beyond a a4.
| Quote: | but i am sure there are many that only care about their narcistic self and the dollar
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This is why you are crazy. You are not what you would call a
"professional", so you have no experence.. And we are talking average
joe consumer solutions and you are trying to apply meaningless
standards to the soccer mom crowd. In a way I agree with you... I
wouldn't think it's all that spiffy to offer someone a print that is
only lightfast for 25 to 30 years the extra spendy papers.
| Quote: | the few that are not fools are the ones that need to gamble on a print clog because
of their ultra high usage
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So why is it those of us who are gambling are not getting printhead
clogs. My ip3000 is still going strong. What is wrong with the
measekite vision of the universe.
But if you want to believe Pelikan is a brand and Nu-Kote is not, there
is nothing I can do about it. Go ahead with your bad self. |
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measekite
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | i really do not care about the ink. i think that the vendors are unprofessional and the
people that support (most of the people) are total fools.
Which is still why I don't understand why you don't consider nu-kote to
be a brand.
A JOKE. YOU CAN USE THE GENERIC LABEL. HAPPY CLOGGING |
| Quote: | I can understand why you think Pelikan is a brand...
A JOKE. YOU CAN USE THE GENERIC LABEL. HAPPY CLOGGING |
| Quote: | they
are a multi-national corporation that have been manufacturing and
formulating ink for over 70 years. Yet Nu-Kote is not dispite their
clear relationship, and their discosure of brands they sell their
product under.
WHEN IS THE GROUP GOING TO GET FED UP WITH YOUR BULLSHIT. |
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if i was a professional i would use OEM ink and pass the extra cost on to my
customers.
If you were a professional what?
If you were a professional... you would either have some clue about the
options available or you would seek advice from someone who does. And
if you were a professional we would not even be discussing some of the
lowest bid solutions, esp what your obsessed with which are consumer
grade goods.
And this is where with all due respect you are obsessed... you have an
opinion based under the assumotion that a "professional" would use when
you don't have any idea your self what they use. Hell your using
professional like some sort of buzz word when there are a ton of
profitable applications for printing... and yet you are giving this
advice to people who either are already making a profit from their work
(photographers and artists) or soccer moms who for what ever crazy
reason what to print off bithday cards at a price less than halmark.
And this is why you are wrong... because they either know more than you
do or just don't care. Here is a hint... someone using an ip4000 isn't
likely part of any sort of great enterprise.
You sir with the upmost respect, haven't used anything beyond a a4.
but i am sure there are many that only care about their narcistic self and the dollar
This is why you are crazy. You are not what you would call a
"professional", so you have no experence.. And we are talking average
joe consumer solutions and you are trying to apply meaningless
standards to the soccer mom crowd. In a way I agree with you... I
wouldn't think it's all that spiffy to offer someone a print that is
only lightfast for 25 to 30 years the extra spendy papers.
the few that are not fools are the ones that need to gamble on a print clog because
of their ultra high usage
So why is it those of us who are gambling are not getting printhead
clogs. My ip3000 is still going strong. What is wrong with the
measekite vision of the universe.
But if you want to believe Pelikan is a brand and Nu-Kote is not, there
is nothing I can do about it. Go ahead with your bad self.
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measekite
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:30 pm Post subject:
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Davy wrote:
| Quote: | Brand, Manufacturer, Maker or Label.....how about a "Record Label",
RCA, Columbia, Parlophone..?
Ooops sorry folks, they'er maker's or manufacturer's but never
label's.... silly me, a label's a "sticker" or a "tag" but never a
"stamp".
They make the ink, put it in a bottle and sell it...!
Whats the difference between a bottle of Pelikan and Newcastle Brown,
apart from one being ink and the other making hairs grow on the palm
of your hand..and good stuff it is too...!
I AM TALKING ABOUT PREFILLED CARTRIDGES. THE SAME ALSO APPLIES TO |
BOTTLED INK.
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measekite
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject:
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Frank wrote:
| Quote: | zakezuke wrote:
For whatever reason you think of ICMI and LCD as name brands.
*I NEVER HEARD OF THEM BUT I AM SURE THEY ARE NOT BRANDS*
I've never heard of them either, but you said they were name brands...
which I guess techncialy they are because they are clearly disclosed as
being manufactured by Nu-Kote.
I REALLY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INK
Then why do you post over 20 times a day talking about it? Really!
This guy has no idea what a "brand" is or even what constitutes a
"brand". He appears to be a real sicko. He's apparently old of age yet
very immature and mentally deficient. He has demonstrated many times
in this ng that he is a pathological liar and totally unmoved when
confronted by his lies. Why you keep responding to his brand of
insanity is the real question. If we all simply ignored him and his
known condition we'd all be far ahead in out quest for more knowledge
of inks, paper and printers.
Something we all seem to desire.
Frank
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This guy has no idea what a "brand" is or even what constitutes a
"brand". He appears to be a real sicko. He's apparently old of age yet
very immature and mentally deficient. He has demonstrated many times in
this ng that he is a pathological liar and totally unmoved when
confronted by his lies. Why you keep responding to his brand of insanity
is the real question
HE CANNOT HELP HIMSELF LIKE YOU
.. If we all simply ignored him and his known condition we'd all be far
ahead in out quest for more knowledge of inks, paper and printers.
YOU CAN'T SO WHY SHOULD HE. |
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measekite
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | For whatever reason you think of ICMI and LCD as name brands.
*I NEVER HEARD OF THEM BUT I AM SURE THEY ARE NOT BRANDS*
I've never heard of them either, but you said they were name brands...
which I guess techncialy they are because they are clearly disclosed as
being manufactured by Nu-Kote.
I REALLY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INK
Then why do you post over 20 times a day talking about it? Really!
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I LUV IT |
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measekite
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measkite said: Snipped stuff
What about brother? Don't they count?
NO |
| Quote: | And you said Pelikan is a brand,
NO |
| Quote: | about Print-rite being a
brand
NO |
| Quote: | that epson sued for patent violations.
THE ONLY BRANDS ARE OEM BRANDS THAT WERE DESIGNED BY THE PRINTER MFG AND |
LABELED BOTH ON THE BOX AND ON THE LABEL AS CANON, HP, AND EPSON.
I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE NOT OVERPRICED. I AM NOT SAYING THAT I WOULD
NOT WELCOME BRANDED HIGH QUALITY PREFILLED CARTS THAT WOULD NOT CLOG THE
PRINTHEAD AT LESS THAN HALF THE PRICE BUT THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. AND I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE BRANDS SOLD IN ALL OF THE STORES. |
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measekite
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:38 pm Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measkete said: Snipped stuff
If you are going to site a company for patent violations...
I AM NOT SITING NOTHING. I JUST MENTIONED AN ARTICLE I READ |
| Quote: | you are
admiting freely they manufacturer the product. So you freely admit
*I NEVER ADMITTED THAT* |
| Quote: | Print-rite manufacturers their ink. You also freely admit Pelikan
*I NEVER ADMITTED THAT* |
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brand,
*I NEVER ADMITTED THAT* |
| Quote: | which is reasonable as apparently you can get it in both office
max and office depot.
*I NEVER ADMITTED THAT* |
| Quote: | Since you agree Pelikan is a brand, and you
freely admit Print-rite is a brand,
*I NEVER ADMITTED THAT* |
| Quote: | Nu-Kote must also be a brand
*I NEVER ADMITTED THAT* |
| Quote: | since
they were named with Pelikan in another Epson lawsuit. So in Measkite
land these are all brands.
*I NEVER ADMITTED THAT* |
| Quote: | So we are agreed... even using the strict
Measekite's standard Print-rite Pelikan and Nu-kote are brands.
*I NEVER ADMITTED THAT* |
| Quote: | It's good that you can admit you were wrong, now don't you feel better?
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zakezuke
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Measkite said: This usual stuff
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This is probally why you like Pelikan as they have been making ink over
70 years. I'm sure you are disapointed when for whatever reason their
product is sold in the states under the Nu-Kote brand, which in Austin
you can find in the following stores
US OFFICE PRODUCTS
OFFICE DEPOT [house label only except for RF95 for the Canon BJC-2000]
OFFICE MAX
BAIRS
MAIL CENTER USA
WAL-MART bci-21 & bci-02 at my local walmart
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=1953407 if you
prefer Pelikan
CONVENIENCE OFFICE SUPPLY
OPPERMANN STATIONERS &
PRECEPT BUSINESS PROD.
OPPERMANN STATIONERS &
PRECEPT BUSINESS PROD.
BUDA POSTAL SERVICES
TNT OFFICE SPLY
LNM OFFICE SUPPLY San Antonio
HENSON BUSINESS PRODUCTS www.hensonbusinessproducts.com
CUSTOMS SYSTEMS leaner TX
GATEWAY BUSINESS PRODUCTS
EAGLE EXPRESS Harker Heights, TX
PACK N MAIL Waco
ENGINEERING & OFFICE SUPPLY Bryan
NEW LIFE TONER INC. San Antonio
PERRY OFFICE SUPPLY Temple
Whether you'd be as pleased with Nu-Kote as the Pelikan products you
bought in past I have no idea... I never used the stuff. But the
webbies sell this brand for between $4.00 and $5.00 each, which is much
better than the local Office supply store let me tell you.
http://www.business-supply.com/office_supplies_2511406_nu-kote-rf187-series-inkjet-color-print-cartridges.html
Brand name... half the price... there you go.
http://www.business-supply.com/toner_inkjet_finder_product_CANON_2493_i950-photo-ptr.html
But your a smart man... check the corporation first before you even
think about buying... here's a good place to start.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/327_cl_all.html |
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zakezuke
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Measkite: said the same thing over and over again
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You are flip flopping more than a house of pancakes? Are you saying
that Nu-kote is the brand and Pelikan is not? That's just crazy talk.
And Print-Rite, Technicaly you are correct you have only spammed this
group that they were the manufacturer that got sued for patent
violations. But since it's sold in so many stores and you submit that
they are the manufacturer, and since you say Pelikan is a brand then
Print-Rite has to be. |
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