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zakezuke
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

Quote:

Measkite said: The same thing over and over again

But if as you say Pelikan is a brand than Nu-Kote must also be a brand.
If not then why do you say that ICMI and LCD are brands but Nu-Kote is
not? I've never even heard of ICMI and LCD... which to me sound like
generics but if you say they are brands obviously they must be in
Texas.

It's clearly disclosed that the parent company produces products under
both name brands.. and since your issue is a lack of disclosure, and
since it's clear that info is disclosed, and since you stated that
Pelikan and the two odd balls ICMI and LCD are brands Nu-Kote must also
be a brand.

Quote:

It takes a big man
to admit they were wrong..
NO THATS WRONG

Ok are you saying you lack integrity?

measekite
Guest

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

zakezuke wrote:

Quote:

Measkite said: The same thing over and over again

ZUKE SAID

The same thing over and over again

Quote:

But if as you say Pelikan is a brand

NO

Quote:

than Nu-Kote must also be a brand.

NO

Quote:

If not then why do you say that ICMI and LCD are brands

NEVER HEARD OF THEM. WHAT ARE YOU WRITING ANYWAY

Quote:

but Nu-Kote is
not? I've never even heard of ICMI and LCD... which to me sound like
generics but if you say they are brands obviously they must be in
Texas.

NO

Quote:

It's clearly disclosed that the parent company produces products under
both name brands..

NO

Quote:

and since your issue is a lack of disclosure, and
since it's clear that info is disclosed,

NO

Quote:

and since you stated that
Pelikan and the two odd balls ICMI and LCD are brands Nu-Kote must also
be a brand.

NO

Quote:

It takes a big man
to admit they were wrong..

NO THATS WRONG

Ok are you saying you lack integrity?

NO

zakezuke
Guest

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

Quote:

Print-Rite, Unicorn, Coraljet , as I understand what measekite is
saying these cartridges do not tell you who has made them, but 'we'
know they'er made by Multi-Union Trading Company of Honk Kong.

sued by epson for patent violations

I see... so you are not only saying that Pelikan and Nu-Kote brands but
Print-Rite is also a brand too since it was clearly named in a lawsuit
we know exactly who's responcible for manufacturing them. And you are
also saying that they got sued because their ink formula was so exact
that Epson had no choice but to sue them. I was under the impression
that it had something to do with the chips Prite-Rite used... while
being pretty generic flash roms they identified them selves as being
"Epson". But if you want to say the patent dispute was because
Prite-Rite got the formula spot on that's entirely up to you.

zakezuke
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

Quote:

Measkite said: Conflicting stuff

Ok are you saying you lack integrity?
NO

But you just said that you were perfectly willing to admit you were
wrong then pretend you didn't.... For a moment I thought there was
some hope for you but clearly I was mistaken.

Quote:

and since you stated that
Pelikan and the two odd balls ICMI and LCD are brands Nu-Kote must also
be a brand.
NO

I totally don't understand. You said in another post that Printrite
was sued by epson providing positive evidence that Printrite
manufacturer, and since their product is sold in multiable stores they
must be a brand. But you say Pelikan is a brand and these two odd
balls ICMI and LCD are brands too yet Nu-Kote isn't? Measkite land is
an odd place.

Seiko Epson Corp. v. Nu-Kote Int'l, Inc. , 104 F.3d 375
Nu-Kote v. HP
http://www.geek.com/techupdate/hpnukote.htm
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=fed&navby=case&no=971313

So if Print-Rite is clearly the manufacturer of their own brand of
products, otherwise why would Epson want to be suing them, then by the
very same token Nu-Kote must be a brand, a company who successfully
sued HP false advertising when they stated their cartridges couldn't be
refilled.

Frank
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:45 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

zakezuke wrote:

Quote:

Measkite said: Conflicting stuff

Ok are you saying you lack integrity?

NO

But you just said that you were perfectly willing to admit you were
wrong then pretend you didn't.... For a moment I thought there was
some hope for you but clearly I was mistaken.

and since you stated that
Pelikan and the two odd balls ICMI and LCD are brands Nu-Kote must also
be a brand.

NO

I totally don't understand. You said in another post that Printrite
was sued by epson providing positive evidence that Printrite
manufacturer, and since their product is sold in multiable stores they
must be a brand. But you say Pelikan is a brand and these two odd
balls ICMI and LCD are brands too yet Nu-Kote isn't? Measkite land is
an odd place.

Seiko Epson Corp. v. Nu-Kote Int'l, Inc. , 104 F.3d 375
Nu-Kote v. HP
http://www.geek.com/techupdate/hpnukote.htm
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=fed&navby=case&no=971313

So if Print-Rite is clearly the manufacturer of their own brand of
products, otherwise why would Epson want to be suing them, then by the
very same token Nu-Kote must be a brand, a company who successfully
sued HP false advertising when they stated their cartridges couldn't be
refilled.

Never encourage and argument with an idiot cause it'll just make you

seem like one too.
Frank

measekite
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:03 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

Frank wrote:

Quote:

zakezuke wrote:

Measkite said: Conflicting stuff

Ok are you saying you lack integrity?

NO

But you just said that you were perfectly willing to admit you were
wrong then pretend you didn't.... For a moment I thought there was
some hope for you but clearly I was mistaken.

SO WHATS DIFFERENT

Quote:

and since you stated that
Pelikan and the two odd balls ICMI and LCD are brands Nu-Kote must
also
be a brand.

LIAR, NEVER HEARD OF THEM

Quote:

NO

I totally don't understand.

YOU NEVER WILL

Quote:

You said in another post that Printrite
was sued by epson providing positive evidence that Printrite
manufacturer,

YOU GOOTA BE KIDDING

Quote:

and since their product is sold in multiable stores they
must be a brand. But you say Pelikan is a brand

NEITHER

Quote:

and these two odd
balls ICMI and LCD are brands too yet Nu-Kote isn't? Measkite land is
an odd place.

NEITHER

Quote:

Seiko Epson Corp. v. Nu-Kote Int'l, Inc. , 104 F.3d 375
Nu-Kote v. HP
http://www.geek.com/techupdate/hpnukote.htm
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=fed&navby=case&no=971313

So if Print-Rite is clearly the manufacturer of their own brand of
products, otherwise why would Epson want to be suing them,

ASK EPSON

Quote:

then by the
very same token Nu-Kote must be a brand,

NOPE YOU ARE PISSEN IN THE WIND

Quote:

a company who successfully
sued HP false advertising when they stated their cartridges couldn't be
refilled.

THEY CANNON BE PROPERLY REFILLED IN THE EXACT SAME CONDITION AS THEY

WERE MANUFACTURED.

Quote:

Never encourage and argument with an idiot cause it'll just make you
seem like one too.
Frank

SO WHY ARE YOU ARGUING

measekite
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:04 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

zakezuke wrote:

Quote:

and since you stated that
Pelikan and the two odd balls ICMI and LCD are brands Nu-Kote must also
be a brand.

NO

I totally don't understand. You said in another post that Printrite
was sued by epson providing positive evidence that Printrite
manufacturer, and since their product is sold in multiable stores they
must be a brand. But you say Pelikan is a brand and these two odd
balls ICMI and LCD are brands too yet Nu-Kote isn't? Measkite land is
an odd place.

Seiko Epson Corp. v. Nu-Kote Int'l, Inc. , 104 F.3d 375
Nu-Kote v. HP
http://www.geek.com/techupdate/hpnukote.htm
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=fed&navby=case&no=971313

So if Print-Rite is clearly the manufacturer of their own brand of
products, otherwise why would Epson want to be suing them, then by the
very same token Nu-Kote must be a brand, a company who successfully
sued HP false advertising when they stated their cartridges couldn't be
refilled.

measekite
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:06 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

zakezuke wrote:

Quote:

sued by epson for patent violations

I see... so you are not only saying that Pelikan and Nu-Kote brands but
Print-Rite is also a brand too

THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOT ME

Quote:

I was under the impression
that it had something to do with the chips Prite-Rite used... while
being pretty generic flash roms they identified them selves as being
"Epson". But if you want to say the patent dispute was because
Prite-Rite got the formula spot on that's entirely up to you.

I REALLY DO NOT CARE. ARE YOU A KID? OR ARE YOU REAL OLD

zakezuke
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:42 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

Quote:

Measkite said: Stuff no one wants to read <SNIP

Why are you talking about Cannons? Near as i'm aware these companies
make arms.

For whatever reason you think of ICMI and LCD as name brands. Perhaps
they are in Texas but to be honest I've never heard of them.

I know you hate aftermarket ink with a passion, but if you are going to
provide proof that Prite-rite manufacturers thier own product... the
same proof you provide for Print-rite also applies to Nu-Kote. I mean
there is no doubt that that's who epson would want to sue and not some
dinky little vender or store. And since you are telling us the lawsuit
has nothing to do with the chips you are saying it has something to do
with the ink...so according to you the ink chemicaly identical to
Epson's ink. And since Epson named Nu-Kote and Epson as the
manufacturers in another lawsuit I do not understand how anyone could
say Pelikan is a brand yet Nu-Kote, the brand you can buy in Office Max
or under the Office Depot store label. You are not making any sense.
First you say ICMI and LCD are also name brands but then you say
neither Nu-Kote and one of those isn't a brand, so which one isn't a
brand? LCD and Nu-Kote?

Seriously what you say makes no sense. I know for a fact that Office
Max carries "Nu-Kote", and I just checked the site.... they are saying
that Office Depot also carries Nu-Kote, as well as Cash & Carry,
Walmart.
http://www.nukote.com/wheretobuy/

According to you if it's not carried in Office Depot... it's not a
brand. But Office Max and Office Depot carry this brand? So how can
Pelikan be a brand and not Nu-Kote if you can buy Nu-Kote at Office
Depot? Is Nu-Kote so good that they run the risk of patent violations?

zakezuke
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:46 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

Quote:

But you just said that you were perfectly willing to admit you were
wrong then pretend you didn't.... For a moment I thought there was
some hope for you but clearly I was mistaken.

you were mistaken

Yes, anyone who would lie about testing a ip6600D in a lab for 6 months
with epson pigmented ink doesn't have very much integrity. But at the
very least you admit you have no integrity. At least you're willing to
admit Pelikan and Print-rite are brands now.

zakezuke
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:57 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

Quote:

But you said
***SUED BY EPSON FOR PATENT VIOLATIONS***
and you denied that it was a chip issue... so it has to be an ink
issue... either way you freely submited to us that Print-Rite was the
manufacturer of a product that Epson believed violated their patent.

Quote:

I REALLY DO NOT CARE

How many posts do you make a day on the subject? You care enough to
lie about testing an ip6600D with epson ink for 6 months to prove your
point. So either you are willing to spend much time extracting 13ml
with a needle and putting them into canon cartridges or your care so
much you are just willing to lie about the subject. In either case you
are beyond caring... you are 100% obsessed.

But we have made progress, you admit Print-Rite is a manufacturer and
Pelikan is a brand. This is progress... you did well, you get a
cookie.

zakezuke
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

Quote:

So if Print-Rite is clearly the manufacturer of their own brand of
products, otherwise why would Epson want to be suing them,

ASK EPSON

Epson doesn't come here and post about this lawsuit. You did. Are you
telling us *now* you really have no idea what it's about? If so why
are you so keen on posting this link every chance you get?

Why are you lie about it when you say Epson won when Print-Rite
settled?

Do you just not understand the only way to violate a patent is to
manufacturer something, something someone else applied for a patent
for?

Epson had a complaint about patent violations, which means in the most
simple terms that someone else was manufacturing something that only
Epson had the right to. So what you are saying when you bring up this
?case? {was it even bought to trial} you are advertising that
Print-Rite made something so identical to Epson no one could tell it a
part.

Now I personaly *thought* it was a trademark issue... chips with the
word "epson" on them so the printer wouldn't react differently to them,
but if you say Print-Rite lost a lawsuit (not exactly true they
settled) about them violating patents... you are saying they are
manufacturer... and just you said Pelikan was a brand Print-Rite must
also be a namebrand too.

Frank
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

zakezuke wrote:

Quote:

For whatever reason you think of ICMI and LCD as name brands.

*I NEVER HEARD OF THEM BUT I AM SURE THEY ARE NOT BRANDS*

I've never heard of them either, but you said they were name brands...
which I guess techncialy they are because they are clearly disclosed as
being manufactured by Nu-Kote.

I REALLY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INK

Then why do you post over 20 times a day talking about it? Really!

This guy has no idea what a "brand" is or even what constitutes a

"brand". He appears to be a real sicko. He's apparently old of age yet
very immature and mentally deficient. He has demonstrated many times in
this ng that he is a pathological liar and totally unmoved when
confronted by his lies. Why you keep responding to his brand of insanity
is the real question. If we all simply ignored him and his known
condition we'd all be far ahead in out quest for more knowledge of inks,
paper and printers.
Something we all seem to desire.
Frank

measekite
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

zakezuke wrote:

Quote:

But you just said that you were perfectly willing to admit you were
wrong then pretend you didn't.... For a moment I thought there was
some hope for you but clearly I was mistaken.

you were mistaken

Yes, anyone who would lie about testing a ip6600D in a lab for 6 months
with epson pigmented ink doesn't have very much integrity. But at the
very least you admit you have no integrity. At least you're willing to
admit Pelikan and Print-rite are brands now.

THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS EXCEPT CANON, HP, AND EPSON. THE

REASON I DID NOT INCLUDE LEXMARK IS BECAUSE I DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER THEM
A PRINTER.

measekite
Guest

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks

zakezuke wrote:

Quote:

since it was clearly named in a lawsuit
we know exactly who's responcible for manufacturing them. And you are
also saying that they got sued because their ink formula was so exact
that Epson had no choice but to sue them.

NEVER SAID THAT EITHER

But you said
***SUED BY EPSON FOR PATENT VIOLATIONS***
and you denied that it was a chip issue... so it has to be an ink
issue... either way you freely submited to us that Print-Rite was the
manufacturer of a product that Epson believed violated their patent.

I REALLY DO NOT CARE

How many posts do you make a day on the subject?

I ONLY POST ONCE A WEEK

Quote:

You care enough to
lie about testing an ip6600D with epson ink for 6 months to prove your
point. So either you are willing to spend much time extracting 13ml
with a needle and putting them into canon cartridges or your care so
much you are just willing to lie about the subject. In either case you
are beyond caring... you are 100% obsessed.

But we have made progress, you admit Print-Rite is a manufacturer

I DID NOT

Quote:

and
Pelikan is a brand.

I DID NOT.

*NEITHER ARE BRANDS BUT THEY ARE LABELS*

Quote:

This is progress... you did well, you get a
cookie.

AND WHAT DID YOU GET?

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