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zakezuke
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Posted:
Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:02 am Post subject:
Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks |
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Jet-Tec
" Jet Tec inkjet cartridges are made in the UK by DCI Ltd and are
compatible with the latest and most popular types of printers."
<snip>
"· Established in 1989
· British Manufacturer with 280 employees
· Extensive in-house R&D department
·<snip>
· In house ink formulation and production laboratory
· State of the art, custom built factory and tool making"
-- http://www.jettec.com/about_us.asp
I imagine I could continue but doing so would just make measekite look
more stupid than he already does. Unlike it's as he belives that there
are a group of people on here who are conspiring to spread lies about
non-oem solutions or if it's just measekite. And well... the evidence
sugests it's just measekite and his paranoid conspiricy theories.
The point is there are brands... even brands that meet all of
Measkete's inane requirements for an ink cartradge to be a name brand.
A brand is just a label people recognize. Whether or not they are
actually the ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) has nothing to do with
it. If what Measekite said was so, then Dell, HP / Compaq, Sony
wouldn't nessicarly be name brands. Even though being an ODM is just a
Measkite requirement... he can not say that 3rd party ODM cartridges do
not exist. They do.. this is a *FACT*. It's a very small point, so I
don't know why he's obsessed with it... and he's wrong anyways so the
point is moot.
But i'm sure he'll find some way to justify himself in saying these lot
are not a brand, even though they meet all his requirements,
requirements that not even Canon, HP, or Epson meet. |
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measekite
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Posted:
Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:08 am Post subject:
Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks |
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Alan Justice wrote:
| Quote: | I used MediaStreet ink in my Epson 2200 for about 8 months. Technically, it
cost 20% as much.
But I had to throw away a lot more prints while figuring
out how to get good results.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. THEY WILL NOT ADMIT WHAT YOU SAY |
HAPPENS TO MOST PEOPLE WHO USE GENERIC INK LIKE THIS
| Quote: | Because the ink was more fragile, I had to
disengage the exit rollers that scuffed the prints (with flags routinely
provided by MS because they know of the problem).
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WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU DO NOT USE OEM
| Quote: | But that led to other
problems such as printing the end of each page (which I need). So I went to
taping a card on the back of every sheet before feeding it. I could go on
about the problems this produced, but suffice it to say that it was so
time-consuming to get good results that I'm giving up.
*READ THIS* |
| Quote: | Not to mention that
the ink ruined the printer:
I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT WHEN A VENDOR WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHAT YOU |
ARE GETTING (WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS) AND YOU CANNOT TRACK THE QUALITY
UNDER A BRAND NAME THEN DO NOT BUY THAT STUFF. MANY OF THESE POSTERS
EVEN GO THROUGH THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF REFILLING THEIR OLD CARTS
AND THEN WRITE POSTINGS ON HOW TO CLEAN THEIR CARPETS.
I LOVE IT.
| Quote: | All the additional head cleanings I had to do
caused the used ink reserevoir to fill up. This is not user-serviceable.
The printer simple stopped working at all.
*END OF READ THIS* |
| Quote: | --
- Alan Justice
"Davy" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:B128f.308918$cw3.52638@fe01.news.easynews.com...
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be
interesting for you to read-:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp
and here's a snippet
We printed several types of files (including those with solid color
blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose
paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts
through the following tests.
~and~[quote:5793904ff4]
Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over
time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time—a
very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no
risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and
Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a
part—clogging a printhead, for example—the warranty for that part
would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4]
Lot more to read so well worth a peep.
Davy
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measekite
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Posted:
Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:08 am Post subject:
Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks |
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Alan Justice wrote:
| Quote: | I used MediaStreet ink in my Epson 2200 for about 8 months. Technically, it
cost 20% as much.
But I had to throw away a lot more prints while figuring
out how to get good results.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. THEY WILL NOT ADMIT WHAT YOU SAY |
HAPPENS TO MOST PEOPLE WHO USE GENERIC INK LIKE THIS
| Quote: | Because the ink was more fragile, I had to
disengage the exit rollers that scuffed the prints (with flags routinely
provided by MS because they know of the problem).
|
WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU DO NOT USE OEM
| Quote: | But that led to other
problems such as printing the end of each page (which I need). So I went to
taping a card on the back of every sheet before feeding it. I could go on
about the problems this produced, but suffice it to say that it was so
time-consuming to get good results that I'm giving up.
*READ THIS* |
| Quote: | Not to mention that
the ink ruined the printer:
I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT WHEN A VENDOR WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHAT YOU |
ARE GETTING (WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS) AND YOU CANNOT TRACK THE
QUALITY UNDER A BRAND NAME THEN DO NOT BUY THAT STUFF. MANY OF THESE
POSTERS EVEN GO THROUGH THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF REFILLING THEIR OLD
CARTS AND THEN WRITE POSTINGS ON HOW TO CLEAN THEIR CARPETS.
I LOVE IT.
| Quote: | All the additional head cleanings I had to do
caused the used ink reserevoir to fill up. This is not user-serviceable.
The printer simple stopped working at all.
*END OF READ THIS* |
| Quote: | --
- Alan Justice
"Davy" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:B128f.308918$cw3.52638@fe01.news.easynews.com...
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be
interesting for you to read-:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp
and here's a snippet
We printed several types of files (including those with solid color
blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose
paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts
through the following tests.
~and~[quote:5793904ff4]
Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over
time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time--a
very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no
risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and
Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a
part--clogging a printhead, for example--the warranty for that part
would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4]
Lot more to read so well worth a peep.
Davy
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*I LOVED IT*
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measekite
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Posted:
Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:08 am Post subject:
Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks |
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Alan Justice wrote:
| Quote: | I used MediaStreet ink in my Epson 2200 for about 8 months. Technically, it
cost 20% as much.
But I had to throw away a lot more prints while figuring
out how to get good results.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. THEY WILL NOT ADMIT WHAT YOU SAY |
HAPPENS TO MOST PEOPLE WHO USE GENERIC INK LIKE THIS
| Quote: | Because the ink was more fragile, I had to
disengage the exit rollers that scuffed the prints (with flags routinely
provided by MS because they know of the problem).
|
WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU DO NOT USE OEM
| Quote: | But that led to other
problems such as printing the end of each page (which I need). So I went to
taping a card on the back of every sheet before feeding it. I could go on
about the problems this produced, but suffice it to say that it was so
time-consuming to get good results that I'm giving up.
*READ THIS* |
| Quote: | Not to mention that
the ink ruined the printer:
I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT WHEN A VENDOR WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHAT YOU |
ARE GETTING (WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS) AND YOU CANNOT TRACK THE
QUALITY UNDER A BRAND NAME THEN DO NOT BUY THAT STUFF. MANY OF THESE
POSTERS EVEN GO THROUGH THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF REFILLING THEIR OLD
CARTS AND THEN WRITE POSTINGS ON HOW TO CLEAN THEIR CARPETS.
I LOVE IT.
| Quote: | All the additional head cleanings I had to do
caused the used ink reserevoir to fill up. This is not user-serviceable.
The printer simple stopped working at all.
*END OF READ THIS* |
| Quote: | --
- Alan Justice
"Davy" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:B128f.308918$cw3.52638@fe01.news.easynews.com...
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be
interesting for you to read-:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp
and here's a snippet
We printed several types of files (including those with solid color
blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose
paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts
through the following tests.
~and~[quote:5793904ff4]
Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over
time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time--a
very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no
risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and
Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a
part--clogging a printhead, for example--the warranty for that part
would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4]
Lot more to read so well worth a peep.
Davy
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*I LOVED IT*
Jon O'Brien wrote:
| Quote: | In article <0DNaf.65545$WR2.30813@fed1read03>, fb@notspam.com (Frank)
wrote:
So why bother with him other than to push his buttons
I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier reply to him.
Jon.
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measekite
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Posted:
Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:10 am Post subject:
Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks |
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Alan Justice wrote:
| Quote: | I used MediaStreet ink in my Epson 2200 for about 8 months. Technically, it
cost 20% as much.
But I had to throw away a lot more prints while figuring
out how to get good results.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. THEY WILL NOT ADMIT WHAT YOU SAY |
HAPPENS TO MOST PEOPLE WHO USE GENERIC INK LIKE THIS
| Quote: | Because the ink was more fragile, I had to
disengage the exit rollers that scuffed the prints (with flags routinely
provided by MS because they know of the problem).
|
WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU DO NOT USE OEM
| Quote: | But that led to other
problems such as printing the end of each page (which I need). So I went to
taping a card on the back of every sheet before feeding it. I could go on
about the problems this produced, but suffice it to say that it was so
time-consuming to get good results that I'm giving up.
*READ THIS* |
| Quote: | Not to mention that
the ink ruined the printer:
I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT WHEN A VENDOR WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHAT YOU |
ARE GETTING (WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS) AND YOU CANNOT TRACK THE
QUALITY UNDER A BRAND NAME THEN DO NOT BUY THAT STUFF. MANY OF THESE
POSTERS EVEN GO THROUGH THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF REFILLING THEIR OLD
CARTS AND THEN WRITE POSTINGS ON HOW TO CLEAN THEIR CARPETS.
I LOVE IT.
| Quote: | All the additional head cleanings I had to do
caused the used ink reserevoir to fill up. This is not user-serviceable.
The printer simple stopped working at all.
*END OF READ THIS* |
| Quote: | --
- Alan Justice
"Davy" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:B128f.308918$cw3.52638@fe01.news.easynews.com...
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be
interesting for you to read-:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp
and here's a snippet
We printed several types of files (including those with solid color
blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose
paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts
through the following tests.
~and~[quote:5793904ff4]
Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over
time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time--a
very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no
risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and
Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a
part--clogging a printhead, for example--the warranty for that part
would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4]
Lot more to read so well worth a peep.
Davy
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*I LOVED IT*
Jon O'Brien wrote:
| Quote: | In article <q7Naf.9761$q%.6972@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com (measekite the hasty) didn't bother to read far enough:
I can assure anyone that's interested that, should they read the site I
linked to (http://www.lyson.com/) carefully enough,
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LYSON SPECIALIZES IN EPSON
| Quote: | they will find plenty
of literature to support my contention that Lyson makes its own inks and
supplies them in pre-filled cartridges. I can't speak for the other links
as I merely quoted from earlier posts.
Those that want other people to do all the work for them by cutting and
pasting will be sadly disappointed.
Jon.
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measekite
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Posted:
Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:13 am Post subject:
Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks |
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zakezuke wrote:
*READ THIS YOU JUST DO NOT GET IT*
Alan Justice wrote:
| Quote: | I used MediaStreet ink in my Epson 2200 for about 8 months. Technically, it
cost 20% as much.
But I had to throw away a lot more prints while figuring
out how to get good results.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. THEY WILL NOT ADMIT WHAT YOU SAY |
HAPPENS TO MOST PEOPLE WHO USE GENERIC INK LIKE THIS
| Quote: | Because the ink was more fragile, I had to
disengage the exit rollers that scuffed the prints (with flags routinely
provided by MS because they know of the problem).
|
WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU DO NOT USE OEM
| Quote: | But that led to other
problems such as printing the end of each page (which I need). So I went to
taping a card on the back of every sheet before feeding it. I could go on
about the problems this produced, but suffice it to say that it was so
time-consuming to get good results that I'm giving up.
*READ THIS* |
| Quote: | Not to mention that
the ink ruined the printer:
I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT WHEN A VENDOR WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHAT YOU |
ARE GETTING (WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS) AND YOU CANNOT TRACK THE
QUALITY UNDER A BRAND NAME THEN DO NOT BUY THAT STUFF. MANY OF THESE
POSTERS EVEN GO THROUGH THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF REFILLING THEIR OLD
CARTS AND THEN WRITE POSTINGS ON HOW TO CLEAN THEIR CARPETS.
I LOVE IT.
| Quote: | All the additional head cleanings I had to do
caused the used ink reserevoir to fill up. This is not user-serviceable.
The printer simple stopped working at all.
*END OF READ THIS* |
| Quote: | --
- Alan Justice
"Davy" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:B128f.308918$cw3.52638@fe01.news.easynews.com...
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be
interesting for you to read-:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp
and here's a snippet
We printed several types of files (including those with solid color
blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose
paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts
through the following tests.
~and~[quote:5793904ff4]
Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over
time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time--a
very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no
risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and
Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a
part--clogging a printhead, for example--the warranty for that part
would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4]
Lot more to read so well worth a peep.
Davy
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*I LOVED IT*
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measekite
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Posted:
Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:25 am Post subject:
Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks |
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Alan Justice wrote:
| Quote: | I used MediaStreet ink in my Epson 2200 for about 8 months. Technically, it
cost 20% as much.
But I had to throw away a lot more prints while figuring
out how to get good results.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. THEY WILL NOT ADMIT WHAT YOU SAY |
HAPPENS TO MOST PEOPLE WHO USE GENERIC INK LIKE THIS
| Quote: | Because the ink was more fragile, I had to
disengage the exit rollers that scuffed the prints (with flags routinely
provided by MS because they know of the problem).
|
WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU DO NOT USE OEM
| Quote: | But that led to other
problems such as printing the end of each page (which I need). So I went to
taping a card on the back of every sheet before feeding it. I could go on
about the problems this produced, but suffice it to say that it was so
time-consuming to get good results that I'm giving up.
*READ THIS* |
| Quote: | Not to mention that
the ink ruined the printer:
I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT WHEN A VENDOR WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHAT YOU |
ARE GETTING (WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS) AND YOU CANNOT TRACK THE
QUALITY UNDER A BRAND NAME THEN DO NOT BUY THAT STUFF. MANY OF THESE
POSTERS EVEN GO THROUGH THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF REFILLING THEIR OLD
CARTS AND THEN WRITE POSTINGS ON HOW TO CLEAN THEIR CARPETS.
I LOVE IT.
| Quote: | All the additional head cleanings I had to do
caused the used ink reserevoir to fill up. This is not user-serviceable.
The printer simple stopped working at all.
*END OF READ THIS* |
| Quote: | --
- Alan Justice
"Davy" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:B128f.308918$cw3.52638@fe01.news.easynews.com...
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be
interesting for you to read-:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp
and here's a snippet
We printed several types of files (including those with solid color
blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose
paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts
through the following tests.
~and~[quote:5793904ff4]
Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over
time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time--a
very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no
risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and
Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a
part--clogging a printhead, for example--the warranty for that part
would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4]
Lot more to read so well worth a peep.
Davy
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*I LOVED IT*
zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Additional:
Jet-Tec
" Jet Tec inkjet cartridges are made in the UK by DCI Ltd and are
compatible with the latest and most popular types of printers."
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THAT SAYS NOTHING. I CAN SAY MY PANTIES ARE COMPATIBLE
| Quote: | snip
"· Established in 1989
· British Manufacturer with 280 employees
· Extensive in-house R&D department
WHERE IS THE BRAND INFORMATION |
| Quote: | ·<snip
· In house ink formulation and production laboratory
· State of the art, custom built factory and tool making"
-- http://www.jettec.com/about_us.asp
I imagine I could continue but doing so would just make measekite look
more stupid than he already does. Unlike it's as he belives that
I DO BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING |
| Quote: | there
are a group of people on here who are conspiring to spread lies about
non-oem solutions
I DO BELIEVE THE ABOVE |
| Quote: | or if it's just measekite. And well... the evidence
sugests it's just measekite and his paranoid conspiricy theories.
The point is there are brands... even brands that meet all of
Measkete's inane requirements for an ink cartradge to be a name brand.
THESE ARE NOT BRANDS. AND BESIDES I READ ON THIS NG POSTS THAT JETTEC |
IS NOT VERY GOOD ANDHAS CLOGGED PRINTERS
| Quote: | A brand is just a label people recognize.
NOT A MFG BRAND. BUT THESE ARE JUST LABELS THAT SOME HACKERS RECOGNIZE. |
| Quote: | Whether or not they are
actually the ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) has nothing to do with
it.
IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT |
| Quote: | If what Measekite said was so, then Dell, HP / Compaq, Sony
wouldn't nessicarly be name brands.
THAT IS NOT TRUE |
| Quote: | Even though being an ODM is just a
Measkite requirement... he can not say that 3rd party ODM cartridges do
not exist. They do..
THEY DO NOT AND THAT IS A FACT. |
| Quote: | this is a *FACT*. It's a very small point, so I
don't know why he's obsessed with it... and he's wrong anyways so the
point is moot.
But i'm sure he'll find some way to justify himself in saying these lot
are not a brand,
CORRECT |
| Quote: | even though they meet all his requirements,
NO THEY DO NOT. THAT IS MY CALL NOT YOURS |
| Quote: | requirements that not even Canon, HP, or Epson meet.
YES THEY DO |
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zakezuke
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:44 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Measekite said: Inane rant removed per request
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If what you say is true, why is my printer not clogged? I'll agree
there are some bum solutions out there. That's why it's important for
people to share experence. You sir have NONE.
Anyhow your inane requirements are as follows.
*1. Manufacture and Formulate
2. Sold in a retail box
3. Sold in retail stores
#1 is totally inane as canon, hp, epson, bother, etc.. etc.. don't
technicaly manufacture the ink. In fact, you don't know for a fact
they even formulate, you take this on faith. But even with #1 in place
it has been proven without a doubt that there are products that meet
all your requirements.
On the small point no brand name 3rd party cartridges existing... you
are with all due respect 100% absolutly positivly wrong. The only
person who is lying is you. There is no grand ink conspircy, just one
person obsessed with the idea at getting back at a few people who hurt
his feelings. That's what this is all about. So accept the fact that
you are wrong... do something positive... and be happy. |
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measekite
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:54 am Post subject:
Re: Test's on 3rd Party Inks |
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measekite said: Inane rant removed per request
If what you say is true, why is my printer not clogged?
THIS IS WHAT I SAID |
Alan Justice wrote:
| Quote: | I used MediaStreet ink in my Epson 2200 for about 8 months. Technically, it
cost 20% as much.
But I had to throw away a lot more prints while figuring
out how to get good results.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. THEY WILL NOT ADMIT WHAT YOU SAY |
HAPPENS TO MOST PEOPLE WHO USE GENERIC INK LIKE THIS
| Quote: | Because the ink was more fragile, I had to
disengage the exit rollers that scuffed the prints (with flags routinely
provided by MS because they know of the problem).
|
WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU DO NOT USE OEM
| Quote: | But that led to other
problems such as printing the end of each page (which I need). So I went to
taping a card on the back of every sheet before feeding it. I could go on
about the problems this produced, but suffice it to say that it was so
time-consuming to get good results that I'm giving up.
*READ THIS* |
| Quote: | Not to mention that
the ink ruined the printer:
I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT WHEN A VENDOR WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHAT YOU |
ARE GETTING (WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS) AND YOU CANNOT TRACK THE QUALITY
UNDER A BRAND NAME THEN DO NOT BUY THAT STUFF. MANY OF THESE POSTERS
EVEN GO THROUGH THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF REFILLING THEIR OLD CARTS
AND THEN WRITE POSTINGS ON HOW TO CLEAN THEIR CARPETS.
I LOVE IT.
| Quote: | All the additional head cleanings I had to do
caused the used ink reserevoir to fill up. This is not user-serviceable.
The printer simple stopped working at all.
*END OF READ THIS* |
| Quote: | --
- Alan Justice
"Davy" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:B128f.308918$cw3.52638@fe01.news.easynews.com...
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be
interesting for you to read-:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp
and here's a snippet
We printed several types of files (including those with solid color
blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose
paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts
through the following tests.
~and~[quote:5793904ff4]
Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over
time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time—a
very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no
risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and
Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a
part—clogging a printhead, for example—the warranty for that part
would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4]
Lot more to read so well worth a peep.
Davy
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*I LOVED IT*
zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Additional:
Jet-Tec
" Jet Tec inkjet cartridges are made in the UK by DCI Ltd and are
compatible with the latest and most popular types of printers."
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THAT SAYS NOTHING. I CAN SAY MY PANTIES ARE COMPATIBLE
| Quote: | snip
"· Established in 1989
· British Manufacturer with 280 employees
· Extensive in-house R&D department
WHERE IS THE BRAND INFORMATION |
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· In house ink formulation and production laboratory
· State of the art, custom built factory and tool making"
-- http://www.jettec.com/about_us.asp
I imagine I could continue but doing so would just make measekite look
more stupid than he already does. Unlike it's as he belives that
I DO BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING |
| Quote: | there
are a group of people on here who are conspiring to spread lies about
non-oem solutions
I DO BELIEVE THE ABOVE |
| Quote: | or if it's just measekite. And well... the evidence
sugests it's just measekite and his paranoid conspiricy theories.
The point is there are brands... even brands that meet all of
Measkete's inane requirements for an ink cartradge to be a name brand.
THESE ARE NOT BRANDS. AND BESIDES I READ ON THIS NG POSTS THAT JETTEC IS |
NOT VERY GOOD ANDHAS CLOGGED PRINTERS
| Quote: | A brand is just a label people recognize.
NOT A MFG BRAND. BUT THESE ARE JUST LABELS THAT SOME HACKERS RECOGNIZE. |
| Quote: | Whether or not they are
actually the ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) has nothing to do with
it.
IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT |
| Quote: | If what Measekite said was so, then Dell, HP / Compaq, Sony
wouldn't nessicarly be name brands.
THAT IS NOT TRUE |
| Quote: | Even though being an ODM is just a
Measkite requirement... he can not say that 3rd party ODM cartridges do
not exist. They do..
THEY DO NOT AND THAT IS A FACT. |
| Quote: | this is a *FACT*. It's a very small point, so I
don't know why he's obsessed with it... and he's wrong anyways so the
point is moot.
But i'm sure he'll find some way to justify himself in saying these lot
are not a brand,
CORRECT |
| Quote: | even though they meet all his requirements,
NO THEY DO NOT. THAT IS MY CALL NOT YOURS |
| Quote: | requirements that not even Canon, HP, or Epson meet.
YES THEY DO |
| Quote: | I'll agree
there are some bum solutions out there. That's why it's important for
people to share experence. You sir have NONE.
Anyhow your inane requirements are as follows.
*1. Manufacture and Formulate
2. Sold in a retail box
3. Sold in retail stores
#1 is totally inane as canon, hp, epson, bother, etc.. etc.. don't
technicaly manufacture the ink. In fact, you don't know for a fact
they even formulate, you take this on faith. But even with #1 in place
it has been proven without a doubt that there are products that meet
all your requirements.
On the small point no brand name 3rd party cartridges existing... you
are with all due respect 100% absolutly positivly wrong. The only
person who is lying is you. There is no grand ink conspircy, just one
person obsessed with the idea at getting back at a few people who hurt
his feelings. That's what this is all about. So accept the fact that
you are wrong... do something positive... and be happy.
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Measkite requirements
*1. Manufacture and Formulate
2. Sold in a retail box
3. Sold in retail stores
#1 is inane, and not actually required for something to be a brand
name, but the jet-tec website say perfectly clearly that " In house ink
formulation and production laboratory", in other words manufacture and
formulate. To put most simply, they meet with your high standards
100%. This isn't some brand hackers reconize but rather something
advertised on TV. Measekite is 100% positivly wrong on this small
point. QED - thus it is proven. You are wrong... accept this and
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measekite
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:12 am Post subject:
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ARE YOU REFERRING TO THIS
zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measekite said: Rant removed per request
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HERE IS WHAT WAS SAID. YOU ALL NEED TO KNOW THIS
Alan Justice wrote:
| Quote: | I used MediaStreet ink in my Epson 2200 for about 8 months. Technically, it
cost 20% as much.
But I had to throw away a lot more prints while figuring
out how to get good results.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. THEY WILL NOT ADMIT WHAT YOU SAY |
HAPPENS TO MOST PEOPLE WHO USE GENERIC INK LIKE THIS
| Quote: | Because the ink was more fragile, I had to
disengage the exit rollers that scuffed the prints (with flags routinely
provided by MS because they know of the problem).
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WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU DO NOT USE OEM
| Quote: | But that led to other
problems such as printing the end of each page (which I need). So I went to
taping a card on the back of every sheet before feeding it. I could go on
about the problems this produced, but suffice it to say that it was so
time-consuming to get good results that I'm giving up.
*READ THIS* |
| Quote: | Not to mention that
the ink ruined the printer:
I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT WHEN A VENDOR WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHAT YOU |
ARE GETTING (WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS) AND YOU CANNOT TRACK THE QUALITY
UNDER A BRAND NAME THEN DO NOT BUY THAT STUFF. MANY OF THESE POSTERS
EVEN GO THROUGH THE MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS OF REFILLING THEIR OLD CARTS
AND THEN WRITE POSTINGS ON HOW TO CLEAN THEIR CARPETS.
I LOVE IT.
| Quote: | All the additional head cleanings I had to do
caused the used ink reserevoir to fill up. This is not user-serviceable.
The printer simple stopped working at all.
*END OF READ THIS* |
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- Alan Justice
"Davy" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:B128f.308918$cw3.52638@fe01.news.easynews.com...
Here's an article I found about 3rd party (non OEM) inks, may be
interesting for you to read-:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,942656,00.asp
and here's a snippet
We printed several types of files (including those with solid color
blocks, text, graphics, and photos) on both inexpensive, multipurpose
paper and expensive, glossy photo paper. We then ran the printouts
through the following tests.
~and~[quote:5793904ff4]
Issues not covered by our tests are how third-party inks hold up over
time and how they might affect your printer's performance over time—a
very controversial issue. The third-party ink sellers say there is no
risk to using their products. But representatives from Canon and
Hewlett-Packard warn that if a third-party ink cartridge damages a
part—clogging a printhead, for example—the warranty for that part
would be void. Let the buyer beware.[/quote:5793904ff4]
Lot more to read so well worth a peep.
Davy
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*I LOVED IT*
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It's not a problem tracking the quality of products esp among the name
brands listed.
THESE ARE NOT BRANDS. THEY ARE LABELS. THEY CAN CHANGE THEIR SUPPLIERS |
AT ANY TIME.
| Quote: | These name brands have been listed priviously. The
only person trully obsessed and being deceptive on the subject is you.
THE ONLY REALLY OBSESSED AND BEING DECEPTIVE AND NOT STRAGHT FORWARD IS |
YOU. CUT AND PASTE THE INFORMATION. OH NO YOU CANNOT BECAUSE IT IS NOT
THEIR.
THIS IS YOUR CHALLENGE - CHICKEN
| Quote: | The few users that use third party products are sharing their experence
with them, doing exactly what you claim you are pro in this rant...
tracking the quality. Why don't you let them do this because it
benifits us all?
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READ ABOVE. SEE THE PROBLEMS. AND THIS IS FROM A VENDOR WHO YOU LIST AND
YOU CLAIM IS A BRAND. BUT IT IS NOT. IT IS A WELL KNOWN WEB SELLER
zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measekite said: Irate rant removed per request
Measkite requirements
*1. Manufacture and Formulate
2. Sold in a retail box
3. Sold in retail stores
#1 is inane, and not actually required for something to be a brand
name, but the jet-tec website say perfectly clearly that " In house ink
formulation and production laboratory", in other words manufacture and
formulate. To put most simply, they meet with your high standards
100%. This isn't some brand hackers reconize but rather something
advertised on TV. Measekite is 100% positivly wrong on this small
point. QED - thus it is proven. You are wrong... accept this and
move on.
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zakezuke
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:30 am Post subject:
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Measkite's chalange
*1. Manufacture and Formulate
2. Sold in a retail box
3. Sold in retail stores
Chalange won... Measkite lost. |
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measekite
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:43 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measekite said: Irate rant removed per request
Measkite's chalange
*1. Manufacture and Formulate
2. Sold in a retail box
3. Sold in retail stores
Chalange won... Measkite lost.
WHAT CHALLENGE. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. NO REFERENCE |
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zakezuke
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:46 am Post subject:
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PR Reorder No.: IFC119B [bci-3e compatable] |
You do understand the image you linked to shows cartridges with the
Print-rite logo on them? Do we feel dumb now? I thought so.
http://www.it88.com.cn/detail/3417.htm
More spiffy logos on boxes and cartridges. woot woot. Feeling mega
dumb now? I thought so!
Anyhow it's true Epson sued print-rite, but they didn't win, Print-Rite
settled. AFAIK the suit was about print-rite's chips not the ink it
self... and how the print-rite cartridges would report to the printer
they were Epson. Feeling super duper bloody stupid? I thought so.
What I don't understand is how can you be so wrong... spend 20 lines
offering proof that you are wrong, and still rant as if you were right.
Perhaps you need glasses. |
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measekite
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:39 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measekite said: Irate rant removed per request
PR Reorder No.: IFC119B [bci-3e compatable]
You do understand the image you linked to shows cartridges with the
Print-rite logo on them? Do we feel dumb now? I thought so.
PRINTWRONG IS A GENERIC AND A POOR ONE AT THAT GENERIC LABEL |
| Quote: | http://www.it88.com.cn/detail/3417.htm
More spiffy logos on boxes and cartridges. woot woot. Feeling mega
dumb now? I thought so!
YOU CERTAINLY LOOK THAT WAY. LOOK AT WHAT I GOT YOU TO DO. LOOK AT ALL |
THE CRAP YOU WRITE. :-D :-D :-D OUT LOUD
| Quote: | Anyhow it's true Epson sued print-rite, but they didn't win, Print-Rite
settled.
YOU ARE A REAL JOKE |
HA HA HA HA
| Quote: | AFAIK the suit was about print-rite's chips not the ink it
self... and how the print-rite cartridges would report to the printer
they were Epson. Feeling super duper bloody stupid?
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YOU SURE SOUND THAT WAY
| Quote: | I thought so.
What I don't understand is how can you be so wrong... spend 20 lines
offering proof that you are wrong, and still rant as if you were right.
Perhaps you need glasses.
YOU MUST BE DRINKING FROM THEM |
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