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drc023
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
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And we can add Pelikan Inkjet Cartridges to the list.
http://www.pelikanhardcopy.com/InkJet.437.0.html This company has been
around forever. And while were at it, let's also add Van Son Holland (one of
the oldest and most respected companies in the printing industry). How about
Ilford Archiva Ink. Let's not forget Staedtler which has only been around
since 1835 and has been producing inkjet ink under its own label since 1995,
http://www.staedtler-inkjet.com/SJ_FAQs_eng.Staedtler?ActiveID=58246. Gee, I
wonder if Measekite has ever heard of a little company known as DuPont?
http://www.inkjet.dupont.com/
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Ron
"Jon O'Brien" <Jon@NOonlySPAMbrowsingTHANX.com> wrote in message
news:memo.20051104021936.3716G@blue.compulink.co.uk...
| Quote: | *From:* measekite <inkystinky@oem.com
*Date:* Fri, 15 Jul 2005 04:32:09 GMT
Too bad there is not one mfg/formulator that sells Branded Prefilled
Carts under their own name and has the quality to match the OEMs and
some assurance that they would not damage the printer.
*From:* Jon@NOonlySPAMbrowsingTHANX.com (Jon O'Brien)
*Date:* Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:56 +0100 (BST)
Lyson fulfills your criteria: http://www.lyson.com/
*From:* "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us@yahoo.com
*Date:* 15 Jul 2005 14:10:13 -0700
As does Media Street.
http://www.mediastreet.com/
*From:* "Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com
*Date:* Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:53:01 +0100
And JetTec www.jettec.com.
*From:* "Ron Cohen" <d+r+c+0+2+3@sbcXXXglobalYYY.ZZZnet
*Date:* Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:31:31 GMT
And Print-Rite from Multi Union www.multiunion.com. |
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measekite
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
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Frank wrote:
| Quote: | Jon O'Brien wrote:
In article <VJqaf.12049$dO2.5766@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
inkystinky@oem.com (in denial, measekite the memoryless) wrote:
[Claim that there are no brands of pre-filled cartridges except
those made by HP, Canon and Epson]
You've been told of several brands of pre-filled cartridges in the past.
Jon.
SHIP
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THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS. NOBODY HAS CUT AND PASTED FROM
ANY VENDORS WEBSITE CLEARLY MARKED INFORMATION OF A BRAND AND ITS
PRICE. NOBODY. IF YOU THINK THERE IS A BRAND IT IS NOW YOUR CHOICE.
NO ZOOCOWSKY |
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measekite
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | Measekite said: <removed per request
MEASEKITE SAID THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS. NOBODY HAS CUT |
AND PASTED FROM ANY VENDORS WEBSITE CLEARLY MARKED INFORMATION OF A
BRAND AND ITS PRICE. NOBODY. IF YOU THINK THERE IS A BRAND IT IS NOW
YOUR CHOICE. NO ZOOCOWSKY
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If it's a retail brand the mfg isn't always going to list the price on
the website... unless they also sell them or are listing MSRP.
THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS. NOBODY HAS CUT AND PASTED FROM |
ANY VENDORS WEBSITE CLEARLY MARKED INFORMATION OF A BRAND AND ITS
PRICE. NOBODY. IF YOU THINK THERE IS A BRAND IT IS NOW YOUR CHOICE.
NO ZOOCOWSKY
| Quote: | But you've been linked to Media street, Lyson, PriteRite... all of whom
are legit brands with their product sold in the retail market in the
retail box. All of these are brands.
THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS. NOBODY HAS CUT AND PASTED FROM |
ANY VENDORS WEBSITE CLEARLY MARKED INFORMATION OF A BRAND AND ITS
PRICE. NOBODY. IF YOU THINK THERE IS A BRAND IT IS NOW YOUR CHOICE.
NO ZOOCOWSKY
| Quote: | They meet with *ALL* of your
requirements for a brand name product, so much so that Canon them
selves don't meet with your strict requiremetns for being a brand name
of ink.
THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS. NOBODY HAS CUT AND PASTED FROM |
ANY VENDORS WEBSITE CLEARLY MARKED INFORMATION OF A BRAND AND ITS
PRICE. NOBODY. IF YOU THINK THERE IS A BRAND IT IS NOW YOUR CHOICE.
NO ZOOCOWSKY
| Quote: | You did correct me in the past though, it's proper to refer to Image
Specalists and Formulalabs as wholesale brands rather than retail ones.
THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS. NOBODY HAS CUT AND PASTED FROM |
ANY VENDORS WEBSITE CLEARLY MARKED INFORMATION OF A BRAND AND ITS
PRICE. NOBODY. IF YOU THINK THERE IS A BRAND IT IS NOW YOUR CHOICE.
NO ZOOCOWSKY |
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measekite
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
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Jon O'Brien wrote:
| Quote: | In article <OTxaf.65473$WR2.30569@fed1read03>, fb@notspam.com (Frank)
wrote:
He doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything.
He may not but I do. When I spot misinformation that might mislead
newcomers, I feel an obligation to correct it. I'm here to help as well as
to learn.
Jon.
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ME TWO
THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS. NOBODY HAS CUT AND PASTED FROM
ANY VENDORS WEBSITE CLEARLY MARKED INFORMATION OF A BRAND AND ITS
PRICE. NOBODY. IF YOU THINK THERE IS A BRAND IT IS NOW YOUR CHOICE.
NO ZOOCOWSKY |
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measekite
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
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Jon O'Brien wrote:
| Quote: | *From:* measekite <inkystinky@oem.com
*Date:* Fri, 15 Jul 2005 04:32:09 GMT
Too bad there is not one mfg/formulator that sells Branded Prefilled
Carts under their own name and has the quality to match the OEMs and
some assurance that they would not damage the printer.
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THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS. NOBODY HAS CUT AND PASTED FROM
ANY VENDORS WEBSITE CLEARLY MARKED INFORMATION OF A BRAND AND ITS
PRICE. NOBODY. IF YOU THINK THERE IS A BRAND IT IS NOW YOUR CHOICE.
NO ZOOCOWSKY
A CLOG IS BORN
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measekite
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
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Frank wrote:
| Quote: | Jon O'Brien wrote:
In article <OTxaf.65473$WR2.30569@fed1read03>, fb@notspam.com (Frank)
wrote:
He doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything.
He may not but I do. When I spot misinformation that might mislead
newcomers, I feel an obligation to correct it. I'm here to help as
well as to learn.
Jon.
Yes and that is what this ng is supposed to be all about (I think). He
is here to distort, lie and misinform. Which he is quite good at doing.
Frank
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THE TRUTH
THERE ARE NO BRANDS OF PREFILLED CARTS. NOBODY HAS CUT AND PASTED FROM
ANY VENDORS WEBSITE CLEARLY MARKED INFORMATION OF A BRAND AND ITS
PRICE. NOBODY. IF YOU THINK THERE IS A BRAND IT IS NOW YOUR CHOICE.
NOBODY HAS MET THE CHALLENGE. JUST GO TO ANY WEBSITE YOU BELIEVE SELLS
BRANDED AFTERMARKET INKS OF PREFILLED CARTS AND CUT AND PASTE THE
INFORMATION INCLUDING THE PRICE SO WE CAN SEE.. IT WOUDL LOOK SOMETHING
LIKE THIS:
FORMULABS BRAND PREFILLED CARTS FOR CANON:: MODEL XXXX PRICE YYYY
AND THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE A PHOTO OF A SAMPLE CART. IT SHOUDL ALSO
HAVE A PROPER LABEL ON THE CART AND A BOX DISPLAYING THE NAME JUST LIKE
CANON, HP OR EPSON HAS.
YA ALL TALK BUT NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CHOICES WHERE THEY CAN BE TRACKED. AFTER MANY
PEOPLE USE A BRAND AND THERE ARE FEW REPORTS OF CLOGS AND OTHER PROBLEMS
THEN IT IS REASONABLE TO CONSIDER USING IT. ONLY BRANDS CAN BE TRACKED.
THERE IS NONE. |
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Frank
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
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Jon O'Brien wrote:
| Quote: | In article <OTxaf.65473$WR2.30569@fed1read03>, fb@notspam.com (Frank)
wrote:
He doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything.
He may not but I do. When I spot misinformation that might mislead
newcomers, I feel an obligation to correct it. I'm here to help as well as
to learn.
Jon.
Yes and that is what this ng is supposed to be all about (I think). He |
is here to distort, lie and misinform. Which he is quite good at doing.
Frank |
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Jon O'Brien
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject:
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In article <6RBaf.9213$q%.600@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com (measekite, in denial) stamped his foot and shouted
that, because no one had cut-and-pasted what he only has to click on a
link to read, he's going to ignore the inconvenient truth: |
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Davy
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject:
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Lets go an buy 3 ink tanks and these are-
Print-Rite, Unicorn, Coraljet , as I understand what measekite i
saying these cartridges do not tell you who has made them, but 'we
know they'er made by Multi-Union Trading Company of Honk Kong
Now then do we know the manufacturer of 'other' brands, since the
don't give the info on the package we can rightly assume it can b
anyone
There are vital words missing here and that is "This ink is mad
by....", it can be wrong to assume just because it came with "Supe
inks" on the package that it was made by them - am I right o
wrong..
This of course can easily apply to Epson, Canon, HP etc
If Multi-Union Trading Company of Honk Kong are willing to supply yo
with ink under your very own label with "Clogging ink Company" on th
label it would be wrong to assume that Clogging ink Company is th
manufacturer
It's just impossible to put it any clearer and this is I believe i
the root of the slanging matches
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zakezuke
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Measekite said: Removed per request
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This has already been done, many times. As a review all the brands
that meet your requirements for brands are as follows
Media Street. http://www.mediastreet.com/
-Retail box edition can be bought from mostly photoshops
Lyson... http://www.lyson.com/
Similar nitch, but can be bought in a retail box
Prite-Rite www.multiunion.com.
Less nitch... more generic.
JetTec www.jettec.com
IIRC they have that TV commercial in the UK with a girl with a lost pet
"Don't worry, I bought ink from jettec, we can print as much as we
want"
Pelikan http://www.pelikanhardcopy.com/InkJet.437.0.html
Dont' know how I forgot about these guys, it was either priterite or
Pelikan ribbons for my old dot matrix.
---- recently added not investiaged too deeply
staedtler
http://www.staedtler-inkjet.com/SJ_FAQs_eng.Staedtler?ActiveID=58246.
These guys are old wideformat suppliers but decided to go into inkjet
ink. Out of germany.
http://www.inkjet.dupont.com/
Near as i'm aware these are wideformat products, but added them just
because you can't say dupont isn't a major brand.
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Because most of these guys are major mfgs, most don't offer direct
consumer sales. Being a Stanford MBA you should understand how this
works. But you have been linked to retail box editions of many of
these products before [except the recently added list by drc023]. |
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sonsdad
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject:
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Hi
There is little manufactured that does not involve the maker changing
packaging for a particular order i.e. The Epson shipment. The difference is
that Epson will specify and check the formulae. The probably introduce
Ammonia or some such substance to their inks to keep the nozzles clear. I
realise this is rocket science but it will be easy for anyone with the will
and wit to copy them! Digital Photo Art magazine recommends Jetec. This mag
is an excellent publication and does not come with a free CD full of trash.
On 4/11/05 10:59 am, in article
1131101993.884724.252010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "zakezuke"
<zakezuke_us@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Measekite said: Removed per request
This has already been done, many times. As a review all the brands
that meet your requirements for brands are as follows
Media Street. http://www.mediastreet.com/
-Retail box edition can be bought from mostly photoshops
Lyson... http://www.lyson.com/
Similar nitch, but can be bought in a retail box
Prite-Rite www.multiunion.com.
Less nitch... more generic.
JetTec www.jettec.com
IIRC they have that TV commercial in the UK with a girl with a lost pet
"Don't worry, I bought ink from jettec, we can print as much as we
want"
Pelikan http://www.pelikanhardcopy.com/InkJet.437.0.html
Dont' know how I forgot about these guys, it was either priterite or
Pelikan ribbons for my old dot matrix.
---- recently added not investiaged too deeply
staedtler
http://www.staedtler-inkjet.com/SJ_FAQs_eng.Staedtler?ActiveID=58246.
These guys are old wideformat suppliers but decided to go into inkjet
ink. Out of germany.
http://www.inkjet.dupont.com/
Near as i'm aware these are wideformat products, but added them just
because you can't say dupont isn't a major brand.
-----
Because most of these guys are major mfgs, most don't offer direct
consumer sales. Being a Stanford MBA you should understand how this
works. But you have been linked to retail box editions of many of
these products before [except the recently added list by drc023].
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zakezuke
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Print-Rite, Unicorn, Coraljet , as I understand what measekite is
saying these cartridges do not tell you who has made them, but 'we'
know they'er made by Multi-Union Trading Company of Honk Kong.
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We know this because the logo apears on the multi-union website.
http://www.multi-union.com/mu/main.asp
Ah but our resident troll wants a picture
http://www.multi-union.com/mu/product1.asp?txt=61
And a model number
PR Reorder No.: IFC119B [bci-3e compatable] |
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zakezuke
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject:
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I should add that in america your more likely to find Datace than
"Printrite".
http://www.datace.com/en/image/product/FI9wGHN3.jpg
Tide Fuyuan Technology (Shenzhen) Co Ltd
3/F, Block 204
Chegongmiao Industrial Zone
Futian District
Shenzhen, Guangdong
China (mainland)
Tel: (86 755) 83413838
Fax: (86 755) 83423838
Other Homepage Address: http://www.datace.com |
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measekite
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject:
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drc023 wrote:
CARTS AND THEY DO NOT DISCLOSE WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS. ANYONE WITH
AN IQ OVER 80 CAN SEE THAT. IF I MISSED IT THEN CUT AND PASTE THE INFO
OR JUST STOP TELLING LIES
| Quote: | This company has been
around forever. And while were at it, let's also add Van Son Holland (one of
the oldest and most respected companies in the printing industry). How about
Ilford Archiva Ink. Let's not forget Staedtler which has only been around
since 1835 and has been producing inkjet
*ink under its own label*
since 1995,
http://www.staedtler-inkjet.com/SJ_FAQs_eng.Staedtler?ActiveID=58246. Gee, I
wonder if Measekite has ever heard of a little company known as DuPont?
http://www.inkjet.dupont.com/
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measekite
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject:
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Davy wrote:
| Quote: | Lets go an buy 3 ink tanks and these are-:
Print-Rite, Unicorn, Coraljet , as I understand what measekite is
saying these cartridges do not tell you who has made them, but 'we'
know they'er made by Multi-Union Trading Company of Honk Kong.
SUED BY EPSON FOR PATENT VIOLATIONS |
| Quote: | Now then do we know the manufacturer of 'other' brands, since they
don't give the info on the package we can rightly assume it can be
anyone.
AND THEY WILL NOT DISCLOSE WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR OF THE INK IS. YOU |
COULD BUY FROM ONE VENDOR AND HAVED TROUBLE CHANGE VENDORS AND GET THE
SAME THING. OR YOU COULD BUY FROM THE SAME VENDOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS
APART AND GET WHAT THEY CLAIM IS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT ONLY TO GET THE
SAME THING UNDER A DIFFERENC LABEL.
| Quote: | There are vital words missing here and that is "This ink is made
by....", it can be wrong to assume just because it came with "Super
inks" on the package that it was made by them - am I right or
wrong..?
YOU ARE TOTALLY CORRECT. |
| Quote: | This of course can easily apply to Epson, Canon, HP etc.
OEM COMPANIES CONTROL THE ENTIRE PROCESS, DESIGN, AND MFG FROM PRINTER |
TO INK TO PAPER. ALL ARE SPECIFIED AND DESIGNED TO WORK TOGETHER
| Quote: | If Multi-Union Trading Company of Honk Kong are willing to supply you
with ink under your very own label with "Clogging ink Company" on the
label it would be wrong to assume that Clogging ink Company is the
manufacturer.
YOU CAN JUST ASUME THAT THE INK WILL CLOG YOUR PRINTER |
| Quote: | It's just impossible to put it any clearer and this is I believe is
the root of the slanging matches.
Davy
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