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Antipodean Bucket Farmer
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Destroying a CD - microwave it? Reply with quote

In article
<4afkt0tlgrka5g2baqvdgh425ugjalk2nq@4ax.com>, Noik
says...
Quote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:16:08 -0800, The Real Bev
bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote:

Moreover, I read recently that adding those pretty labels that you went
to so much work to make actually damages the CD/DVD.

I don't think so with DVD. With CD, yes, it does happen, but my
understanding is that some labels are safe. Couldn't tell you which
ones, and I don't think the problem is completely understood, so labels
on CDs are "out" for anything you want to be long lasting. For me,
anyway.


Why? What is the problem? Something with the adhesive
on the labels? What is your alternative?


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Clark W. Griswold, Jr.
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Destroying a CD - microwave it? Reply with quote

Antipodean Bucket Farmer <anyone@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG> wrote:

Quote:
Why? What is the problem? Something with the adhesive
on the labels? What is your alternative?

Some early CD labels contained an adhesive that over time would eat through the
top coating of the disk and into the dye layer. I doubt that current labels have
that problem. Since DVDs are protected top and bottom, it's not a problem there
at all.
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Bob Ward
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: Destroying a CD - microwave it? Reply with quote

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 07:44:49 -0700, "Clark W. Griswold, Jr."
<spamtrap100@comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
Antipodean Bucket Farmer <anyone@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG> wrote:

Why? What is the problem? Something with the adhesive
on the labels? What is your alternative?

Some early CD labels contained an adhesive that over time would eat through the
top coating of the disk and into the dye layer. I doubt that current labels have
that problem. Since DVDs are protected top and bottom, it's not a problem there
at all.


But wait! There's more!

On the band surrounding the cakebox cover on the spindle of 20 TEON
brand DVD-R 8X disks, it states:

"Do not attach label, protective sheets, or apply any coating fluids
to the disc.

When labeling the disc for identification purposes, please use a soft,
oil-based felt-tip marker on the silver surface or imprinted surface.

Do not useball point pen or hard tip devices for labeling as they may
damage the recording performance of the disc."

email: support@teonusa.com
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Michael Black
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: Destroying a CD - microwave it? Reply with quote

Bob Ward (bobward@verizon.net) writes:
Quote:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 07:44:49 -0700, "Clark W. Griswold, Jr."
spamtrap100@comcast.net> wrote:

Antipodean Bucket Farmer <anyone@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG> wrote:

Why? What is the problem? Something with the adhesive
on the labels? What is your alternative?

Some early CD labels contained an adhesive that over time would eat through the
top coating of the disk and into the dye layer. I doubt that current labels have
that problem. Since DVDs are protected top and bottom, it's not a problem there
at all.


But wait! There's more!

On the band surrounding the cakebox cover on the spindle of 20 TEON
brand DVD-R 8X disks, it states:

"Do not attach label, protective sheets, or apply any coating fluids
to the disc.

I can't remember where I read, though I think it was a hardware book,

but it was suggested that as cdrom drives go towards higher and higher
speeds, attaching labels may cause an imbalance. I have no idea whether
that happens or not, but given the speed I can see that it might be
an issue.

Michael

Quote:
When labeling the disc for identification purposes, please use a soft,
oil-based felt-tip marker on the silver surface or imprinted surface.

Do not useball point pen or hard tip devices for labeling as they may
damage the recording performance of the disc."

email: support@teonusa.com
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Bob Ward
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: Destroying a CD - microwave it? Reply with quote

On 5 Jan 2005 20:41:53 GMT, et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)
wrote:

Quote:

Bob Ward (bobward@verizon.net) writes:
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 07:44:49 -0700, "Clark W. Griswold, Jr."
spamtrap100@comcast.net> wrote:

Antipodean Bucket Farmer <anyone@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG> wrote:

Why? What is the problem? Something with the adhesive
on the labels? What is your alternative?

Some early CD labels contained an adhesive that over time would eat through the
top coating of the disk and into the dye layer. I doubt that current labels have
that problem. Since DVDs are protected top and bottom, it's not a problem there
at all.


But wait! There's more!

On the band surrounding the cakebox cover on the spindle of 20 TEON
brand DVD-R 8X disks, it states:

"Do not attach label, protective sheets, or apply any coating fluids
to the disc.

I can't remember where I read, though I think it was a hardware book,
but it was suggested that as cdrom drives go towards higher and higher
speeds, attaching labels may cause an imbalance. I have no idea whether
that happens or not, but given the speed I can see that it might be
an issue.


It COULD, if you are applying a rectangular address label, but I don't
see that as a problem with a CD/DVD full face label.

They also make hub labels that don't cover the data area - should be
adequate for identification purposes.
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The Real Bev
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Destroying a CD - microwave it? Reply with quote

Antipodean Bucket Farmer wrote:
Quote:

Noik says...

bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote:

Moreover, I read recently that adding those pretty labels that you went
to so much work to make actually damages the CD/DVD.

I don't think so with DVD. With CD, yes, it does happen, but my
understanding is that some labels are safe. Couldn't tell you which
ones, and I don't think the problem is completely understood, so labels
on CDs are "out" for anything you want to be long lasting. For me,
anyway.

Why? What is the problem? Something with the adhesive
on the labels? What is your alternative?

A Sharpie. Permanent, of course. If you change your mind quickly
enough you can carefully wipe it off with alcohol. If you really NEED to
make a pretty label, take a deep breath and lie down in a dark room for
15 minutes or print an insert for the jewel case.

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Brendan R. Wehrung
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Destroying a CD - microwave it? Reply with quote

Antipodean Bucket Farmer (anyone@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG) writes:
Quote:
Steve (fjqi@hdsx.inv) writes:

Ok, thanks. I've been mostly snapping them in half if
I wanna destroy them...


Always be sure to point them away from you and other
people while breaking them. They tend to fling off
small shards of plastic at high speed.



You'll enjoy a new device Publishers Clearing House is offering.

It looks like a shredder and will shred thick wads of paper. But it has
slots for CDs and credit cards, and the best part is that it is
HAND CRANKED! Get the satisfaction of doing it all yourself, with your
OWN HANDS (without the ahards).

Brendan


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J. Yazel
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: Destroying a CD - microwave it? Reply with quote

On 8 Jan 2005 05:13:47 GMT, ck183@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung)
wrote:

Quote:

Antipodean Bucket Farmer (anyone@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG) writes:
Steve (fjqi@hdsx.inv) writes:

Ok, thanks. I've been mostly snapping them in half if
I wanna destroy them...


Always be sure to point them away from you and other
people while breaking them. They tend to fling off
small shards of plastic at high speed.

I use tin snips to cut them into multiple pieces. Cuts like butter.


I don't get any pieces in my eyes!

Jack
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FredBillie
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Destroying a CD - microwave it? Reply with quote

<< From: J. Yazel jyazel@ds.net
Date: Sat, Jan 8, 2005 3:17 PM
Message-id: <qcj0u013inols24atttk91cu2kej85ufjp@4ax.com>

On 8 Jan 2005 05:13:47 GMT, ck183@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung)
wrote:

Quote:

Antipodean Bucket Farmer (anyone@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG) writes:
Steve (fjqi@hdsx.inv) writes:

Ok, thanks. I've been mostly snapping them in half if
I wanna destroy them...


Always be sure to point them away from you and other
people while breaking them. They tend to fling off
small shards of plastic at high speed.

I use tin snips to cut them into multiple pieces. Cuts like butter.


I don't get any pieces in my eyes!

Jack
Quote:
BR><BR
Some of the high line paper shredders will shred a CD/DVD quite nicely.
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