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briang
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:23 pm Post subject:
Exabyte 8205 - Tape Eject |
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I just purchased an Exabyte 8205 SCSI tape drive. It seems to power up
correctly, the lights flash in the sequence that the manual says they
should. It's recognized by the Adaptec 2940 SCSI card and it's
recognized by Windows XP. I'm using Exabyte 8mm 112 m tapes, which
should work according to the manual. However, whenever I put a tape
in, it pauses a second or two and then ejects the tape again.
Does anybody have any idea why this would happen?
Thanks,
Brian |
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Nico de Jong
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject:
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angateley@tds.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:1130253797.680668.76320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I just purchased an Exabyte 8205 SCSI tape drive. It seems to power up
correctly, the lights flash in the sequence that the manual says they
should. It's recognized by the Adaptec 2940 SCSI card and it's
recognized by Windows XP. I'm using Exabyte 8mm 112 m tapes, which
should work according to the manual. However, whenever I put a tape
in, it pauses a second or two and then ejects the tape again.
Does anybody have any idea why this would happen?
I've seen it the other way around : an Eliant 820 ejecting a 90m tape. it |
can only read "old" tapes when they are write-protected !
Do you experience the same problem with 90m tapes?
Nico |
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briang
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Exabyte 8205 - Tape Eject |
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I haven't tried any smaller tapes yet, don't even have any so I'll have
to order a few. I did just download the latest firmware (and Exabyte's
"Expert" utility to download it to the tape drive) from Exabyte
thinking that might help...no such luck. However, since Expert WAS
able to upgrade the firmware, no errors, no problems, it sure seems
like the drive is working okay. Maybe the smaller tapes will work.
Thanks for the help!
Brian |
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Rob Turk
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject:
Re: Exabyte 8205 - Tape Eject |
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"briang" <briangateley@tds.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I haven't tried any smaller tapes yet, don't even have any so I'll have
to order a few. I did just download the latest firmware (and Exabyte's
"Expert" utility to download it to the tape drive) from Exabyte
thinking that might help...no such luck. However, since Expert WAS
able to upgrade the firmware, no errors, no problems, it sure seems
like the drive is working okay. Maybe the smaller tapes will work.
Thanks for the help!
Brian
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Does the drive show any LED's when it ejects the tape? Usually it's a sign
of a mechanical failure (servo error) when the tape ejects right away. 112m
tapes should be just fine on the 8205
Rob |
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briang
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:44 pm Post subject:
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Hi Rob,
No flickers at all between when I put the tape in and when it ejects
it. I see Expert has various commands and tests you can run, do you
know anything about Expert and/or what I could run to find out if it is
a servo error?
Thanks,
Brian |
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Rob Turk
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:21 am Post subject:
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"briang" <briangateley@tds.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi Rob,
No flickers at all between when I put the tape in and when it ejects
it. I see Expert has various commands and tests you can run, do you
know anything about Expert and/or what I could run to find out if it is
a servo error?
Thanks,
Brian
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I wrote version 7.0 through 7.3 so I should know a little bit about Expert
;-)
The tests it offers all assume that you have a tape loaded, so that's not
going to work for you.
What you could try is select the toolbox <F2>, then 'Commands', then the
'Test Unit Ready' command. When you hit it a couple times while you insert
the tape, the returned status may tell why the tape gets ejected.
Rob |
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briang
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:38 am Post subject:
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Wow, you ARE the Expert! :-) I'm glad to have your help.
I tried the Test Unit Ready command, pressing it multiple times while
inserting the tape. It consistently just gives these 4 messages:
(0x02.3a.00.c9) Not ready
Medium not present
_19 0x02, TNP
Fault Symptom Code 0xc( (201)
Does that tell us anything?
Thanks,
Brian |
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Rob Turk
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:10 am Post subject:
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"briang" <briangateley@tds.net> wrote in message
news:1130272696.847206.168860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Wow, you ARE the Expert! :-) I'm glad to have your help.
I tried the Test Unit Ready command, pressing it multiple times while
inserting the tape. It consistently just gives these 4 messages:
(0x02.3a.00.c9) Not ready
Medium not present
_19 0x02, TNP
Fault Symptom Code 0xc( (201)
Does that tell us anything?
Thanks,
Brian
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It tells you that it doesn't even see a tape being loaded. No servo error
anyway, so that's good.
There could be a couple things going on that I can think of.
- The tape you are trying to load is not a proper type for this drive. Are
you sure it's a 112m MP media tape?
- The tape is broken. Carefully open the lid to see if there's really tape
behind the lid.
- The mechanical break mechanism of the cartridge is broken.
- One or more of the recognition holes in the bottom of the tape are
filled/blocked, making the drive mis-detect the tape as something it doesn't
support
- One or more microswitches that detect the recognition pattern in the drive
are faulty. In that case you're SOL..
Try to find a new tape and see if it makes any difference. Avoid any AME or
VXA tapes, these are not compatible with the 8205.
Rob |
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Dr. Anton T. Squeegee
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:44 am Post subject:
Re: Exabyte 8205 - Tape Eject |
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In article <Fcx7f.48$L97.11@amstwist00>, _wipe_me_r.turk@chello.nl
says...
| Quote: | "briang" <briangateley@tds.net> wrote in message
news:1130272696.847206.168860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Wow, you ARE the Expert! :-) I'm glad to have your help.
I tried the Test Unit Ready command, pressing it multiple times while
inserting the tape. It consistently just gives these 4 messages:
(0x02.3a.00.c9) Not ready
Medium not present
_19 0x02, TNP
Fault Symptom Code 0xc( (201)
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<snippety-one>
| Quote: | It tells you that it doesn't even see a tape being loaded. No servo error
anyway, so that's good.
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<snippety-two>
Rob, isn't the 8205 one of the drives that will eject the tape
right away if the innards of the drive need cleaning? I know the
Mammoths do that, but it's been too long since I've played with an 8205
to remember if they're the same way.
Keep the peace(es).
--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?" |
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Rob Turk
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:26 am Post subject:
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"Dr. Anton T. Squeegee" <SpammersAreVermin@dev.null> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In article <Fcx7f.48$L97.11@amstwist00>, _wipe_me_r.turk@chello.nl
says...
"briang" <briangateley@tds.net> wrote in message
news:1130272696.847206.168860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Wow, you ARE the Expert! :-) I'm glad to have your help.
I tried the Test Unit Ready command, pressing it multiple times while
inserting the tape. It consistently just gives these 4 messages:
(0x02.3a.00.c9) Not ready
Medium not present
_19 0x02, TNP
Fault Symptom Code 0xc( (201)
snippety-one
It tells you that it doesn't even see a tape being loaded. No servo error
anyway, so that's good.
snippety-two
Rob, isn't the 8205 one of the drives that will eject the tape
right away if the innards of the drive need cleaning? I know the
Mammoths do that, but it's been too long since I've played with an 8205
to remember if they're the same way.
Keep the peace(es).
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That was introduced in Mammoth. The 8205 should take the tape regardless of
the cleaning state. If it did require cleaning then the top LED should be
lit. Brian mentioned none of the LED's are on, so the drive doesn't think
it needs cleaning.
Rob |
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briang
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject:
Re: Exabyte 8205 - Tape Eject |
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Brand new Exabyte 112m 8mm Data Cartridges for 8mm (MP) Tape Drives...I
tried 3 different ones, so I'm pretty sure it's not the tape. Could it
have anything to do with anything other than the drive, i.e. the SCSI
card, the drivers, the PC itself?
The people I got this from on eBay said they have some more so they'll
replace it for me. Unless you think it MIGHT be something other than
the drive, it sounds like that's my best bet.
Thanks,
Brian |
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Nico de Jong
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Exabyte 8205 - Tape Eject |
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"briang" <briangateley@tds.net> skrev i en meddelelse
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| Quote: | Brand new Exabyte 112m 8mm Data Cartridges for 8mm (MP) Tape Drives...I
tried 3 different ones, so I'm pretty sure it's not the tape. Could it
have anything to do with anything other than the drive, i.e. the SCSI
card, the drivers, the PC itself?
If the drive is in a separate enclosure, you could try to power up the |
drive
without powering up the PC, and see if the same thing happens. If so, it
must be either the drive or the tape-type, as you already have excluded
the
tapes as such.
I have no 8205 here, so I can't try it.
Nico |
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briang
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject:
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Good thinking! I don't have a seperate enclosure, but I simply
disconnected the SCSI cable from the drive and then booted up so it had
power. It still does the same thing, so I would guess it's got to be
the drive.
Thanks,
Brian |
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