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Ajanta
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:17 pm    Post subject: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

HP is offering $100 rebate on their B&W Laserjet 1320. Does this mean
it is about to be replaced?
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Jan Alter
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

It could mean that, but not necessarily. Consider the possible reasons for
rebates. It could mean strategically that HP is simply trying to drum up
business for the printer by appealing to the greed factor. It could also
mean, as you say, that they are discontinuing this model. How long has the
model been out?
What you as a consumer should really be asking is how good a machine is
this? What do others who have it say about it? Does this fit my needs and is
there something else in a laser jet that I want that this particular machine
doesn't have? What do the consumables cost to run it.

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"Ajanta" <ajanta@null.void> wrote in message
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HP is offering $100 rebate on their B&W Laserjet 1320. Does this mean
it is about to be replaced?
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Ajanta
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

Jan Alter <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote:

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What you as a consumer should really be asking is how good a machine is
this? What do others who have it say about it? Does this fit my needs and is
there something else in a laser jet that I want that this particular machine
doesn't have? What do the consumables cost to run it.

Good advice, but the name of the game is knowing the options so one can
choose wisely. If a model is being replaced, I'd like to know the
changes and then decide if I want those or a rebate.

As you can magine I am in the market for a home laser printer: quiet,
reliable, small footprint, the usual needs. :) The best bets appeared
to be Brother 5140 and HP 1320 series. While trying to choose between
them, I learned the former is being replaced by an improved 5240. Aware
of the 1320 rebate, I was wondering if anyone had more news (or
rumors!) to share.
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bmoag
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

The differences in performance between HP lasers at this price point made
over the last 5 years or more are entirely indistinguishable based on my
purchasing experience. Mono laser printers are a mature technology and I
presume you are old enough to realize that the latest and greatest model is
often no more than the old model in a new box. This is called "marketing"
and HP and Canon are champions at the process of recycling old as new.
Before you purchase a product with a rebate this large the primary question
is whether you will actually receive the rebate or not, as a very high
percentage of rebates are never satisfactorily paid to consumers.
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measekite
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

ASK HP. DO YOU THINK THESE IDIOTS KNOW MORE THAN HP

Ajanta wrote:

Quote:
HP is offering $100 rebate on their B&W Laserjet 1320. Does this mean
it is about to be replaced?

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Ajanta
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:

Quote:
ASK HP. DO YOU THINK THESE IDIOTS KNOW MORE THAN HP

I am sure HP knows more but they are unlikely to tell before official
announcements. OTOH it is not common for industry insiders to have an
idea of what is coming up.
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measekite
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

THE IDIOTS IN THIS NG ARE HARDLY INSIDERS. THEY ARE SO FAR OUTSIDE THAT
THEY CANNOT SEE THE TRUTH WITH A HUBBLE TELESCOPE.

Ajanta wrote:

Quote:
measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:



ASK HP. DO YOU THINK THESE IDIOTS KNOW MORE THAN HP



I am sure HP knows more but they are unlikely to tell before official
announcements. OTOH it is not common for industry insiders to have an
idea of what is coming up.

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Ajanta
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

bmoag <aetoo@hotmail.com> wrote:

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The differences in performance between HP lasers at this price point made
over the last 5 years or more are entirely indistinguishable based on my
purchasing experience. Mono laser printers are a mature technology and I
presume you are old enough to realize that the latest and greatest model is
often no more than the old model in a new box. This is called "marketing"
and HP and Canon are champions at the process of recycling old as new.

I have seen it every way: new model is bettr than the old one, the same
as you say, and there have been caess when it is worse in some ways. :)
So rather than generalize, I just like to get information on the
specific case.
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irwell
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:17:21 GMT, Ajanta <ajanta@null.void> wrote:

Quote:
HP is offering $100 rebate on their B&W Laserjet 1320. Does this mean
it is about to be replaced?
Could be a cash flow problem, they might need more money.

OTH Canon has a $25 rebate on their new IP6600d, so
who really knows why these decisions are made.
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Wayne C. Morris
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

In article <E9M6f.4425$U2.3299@trndny04>,
"Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote:

Quote:
It could mean that, but not necessarily. Consider the possible reasons for
rebates. It could mean strategically that HP is simply trying to drum up
business for the printer by appealing to the greed factor. It could also
mean, as you say, that they are discontinuing this model.

Or it could be a sneaky way of getting you to register the product for
warranty purposes, or to get your address for their junk-mail list.
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Paul Sture
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

measekite wrote:

Quote:
Ajanta wrote:

HP is offering $100 rebate on their B&W Laserjet 1320. Does this mean
it is about to be replaced?


ASK HP. DO YOU THINK THESE IDIOTS KNOW MORE THAN HP


Now _that_ is extremely funny!

Sorry folks, couldn't resist this time :-)
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Taliesyn
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

Paul Sture wrote:

Quote:
measekite wrote:

Ajanta wrote:

HP is offering $100 rebate on their B&W Laserjet 1320. Does this mean
it is about to be replaced?


ASK HP. DO YOU THINK THESE IDIOTS KNOW MORE THAN HP


Now _that_ is extremely funny!

Sorry folks, couldn't resist this time :-)


Couldn't resist my "idiot" take on rebates. From my observation of
the way they market all things electronic. . . When a new product comes
out, it's generally sold at full price for a while, just to get the
suckers who need the very latest at any price (now that''s not very
polite of me!). After a few months I'll notice that suddenly a rebate is
offered, lowering its price considerably. This will get another crowd
of buyers just waiting for that rebate to kick in. Now when the product
has run its course (many months later) and a new one is set to replace
it, the price is cut several times until it sells for about slightly
above half its original price. This will get anyone else who still
hasn't bought it! This last person got the best deal and has the
advantage of seeing all the reviews on the device to see how it held up
during the year. Not bad for an "idiot", huh! ;-).

Taliesyn
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Frank
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:25 am    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

Ajanta wrote:
Quote:
measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:


ASK HP. DO YOU THINK THESE IDIOTS KNOW MORE THAN HP


I am sure HP knows more but they are unlikely to tell before official
announcements. OTOH it is not common for industry insiders to have an
idea of what is coming up.

You're the ONLY fucking idiot in this ng and everyone here knows it. Moron.
Frank
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measekite
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: Does rebate mean product is about to be replaced? Reply with quote

Frank wrote:

Quote:
Ajanta wrote:

measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:


ASK HP. DO YOU THINK THESE IDIOTS KNOW MORE THAN HP



I am sure HP knows more but they are unlikely to tell before official
announcements. OTOH it is not common for industry insiders to have an
idea of what is coming up.


I am the ONLY fucking idiot in this ng and everyone here knows it.
Moron.
Frank

YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG. THERE ARE MANY IDIOTS HERE BESIDES YOU.
HOWEVER, YOU MAY BE THE BIGGEST IDIOT HERE YOU LYING FUCK.
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