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Dragoncarer
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

"Bill Leaming" <n4gix@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:05:46 -0400, Beech45Whiskey wrote:

But, if someone new were to stumble onto the thread but his news server
did
not contain any but the most recent post, it would be much easier for
this
person to follow the history of the thread if everyone bottom posted.

What ruins us bottom posters's reputations are the folks who quote 500
lines of text, only to add their one line reply at the bottom. I, too,
agree that those types of bottom posters should be drawn and quartered.

Perhaps then a suitable alternative would be for the poster to have at
least a short, one line notice that his "content" is at the bottom? ;)

Bill

No, it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. If there's no content
at the top - then it has to be in the body or at the bottom.

I used to be a top poster.
But that was a long time, when I was young and foolish and reckless.
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Daniel James
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

In article news:<bphql1db400jtlgkq77pf8huc1m3gaehvt@4ax.com>, Bryan Bellis
wrote:
Quote:
Is Dimentia a particular form of madness caused by close association
with monitor phlogisten, or has your dose risen to such levels where
you can't spell Dementia any more?

I'd guess that "dimentia" may be to "dementia" as "phlogisten" is to
"phlogiston" ... that doesn't mean that either of them ("dimentia" and
"phlogisten", that is) have to mean anything.

... but let's not start any flaming, here!

Cheers,
Daniel.

[Phlogiston is, of course, related to the magic smoke whose release stops
electrical equipment from working.]
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P Ruetz
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:38 am    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

"ric" <publicmail@infobubble.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1130232290.723414.39050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
the earth's magnetic field makes bugger all difference to TFTs.
it DOES however, make a difference to CRTs and some TVs.
to prove this, if you've a big, preferably fairly high-res monitor,
turn it through 180 degrees without turning it off/on and degaussing,
and look closely at the screen. a slight colour stain is very common,
which'll usually clear by the automatic degauss.
it doesn't always, but can be done manually using a, well, manual
degausser - which is a big circular electromagnet that you turn on
about 6 foot from the screen, bring it towards it and wipe around the
outside of the casing, before retiring to a slight distance and turning
it off.
anyone who's spent any time in the TV repair business will know what i
mean - usually severe cases are caused by non-shielded loudspeakers
placed too close to the TV...


I actually found some useful information in your post! Most of this thread
seems to be bickering about top/bottom posting.

Peter
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Bob
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:38:48 GMT, "P Ruetz"
<parmailbox-news@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
Most of this thread seems to be bickering about top/bottom posting.

Then don't read it.


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If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you
set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Andy Jeffries
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

gbozovic11@yahoo.com wrote:
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However, the 2001FP is nearly 2-years old, it has mixed reviews, and
the specs are not as good as the Samsung.

I haven't seen many mixed reviews for the 2001FP. I've seen quite a few
people have problems with dead pixels or backlighting (but Dell in the
US has a no-quibble swap warranty which people tend to use).

I bought one yesterday and am absolutely in love with it!

No dead pixels/lighting problems, it looks stunning in Windows and Linux
and no blurring in games!

May not help you, as it's only MHO, but thought I'd at least post an
on-topic response ;-)

Cheers,


Andy
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Bill Leaming
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:24:24 +1000, Dragoncarer wrote:

Quote:
"Bill Leaming" <n4gix@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1xfay6iq0fpbh$.cd1il6a78267$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 18:05:46 -0400, Beech45Whiskey wrote:

But, if someone new were to stumble onto the thread but his news server
did
not contain any but the most recent post, it would be much easier for
this
person to follow the history of the thread if everyone bottom posted.

What ruins us bottom posters's reputations are the folks who quote 500
lines of text, only to add their one line reply at the bottom. I, too,
agree that those types of bottom posters should be drawn and quartered.

Perhaps then a suitable alternative would be for the poster to have at
least a short, one line notice that his "content" is at the bottom? ;)

Bill

No, it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. If there's no content
at the top - then it has to be in the body or at the bottom.

I used to be a top poster.
But that was a long time, when I was young and foolish and reckless.
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Bill Leaming
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:24:24 +1000, Dragoncarer wrote:

Quote:
No, it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. If there's no content
at the top - then it has to be in the body or at the bottom.

I used to be a top poster.
But that was a long time, when I was young and foolish and reckless.

Not necessarily. It could, like my previous reply be devoid of new
content.

Now instead of being "young, foolish and reckless" you've settled on being
old, purile and obnoxious? ;)
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Dave
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

"ric" <publicmail@infobubble.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1130232290.723414.39050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
the earth's magnetic field makes bugger all difference to TFTs.
it DOES however, make a difference to CRTs and some TVs.
to prove this, if you've a big, preferably fairly high-res monitor,
turn it through 180 degrees without turning it off/on and degaussing,
and look closely at the screen. a slight colour stain is very common,
which'll usually clear by the automatic degauss.
it doesn't always, but can be done manually using a, well, manual
degausser - which is a big circular electromagnet that you turn on
about 6 foot from the screen, bring it towards it and wipe around the
outside of the casing, before retiring to a slight distance and turning
it off.
anyone who's spent any time in the TV repair business will know what i
mean - usually severe cases are caused by non-shielded loudspeakers
placed too close to the TV...


Ahhh, yes, the de-gauss wand. Been known to wipe credit cards, especially
when used as an offensive weapon or as weapon against an offensive person.
Been there, done that....

You are correct quite about the earth's magnetic field affecting CRT
monitors and TVs. Normally, when the TV/CRTs are shifted from one location
to another that they face 180° in the opposite direction, you will notice
some colour bleed because the mask screen has been magnetised to the
previous location. The longer it was sitting in the original location, the
more obvious the bleed when the orientation is changed.

If you have an old monitor, store it on its side or upside down for at least
6 months and then re-test. I can guarantee you will see colour bleed when
reconnected. If it is old, it could take more than 10 power cycles for the
in-built de-gausser to fix the screen, assuming it has a de-gausser and it
works. The wand makes the fix much faster.

Dave

PS. By wand, the one I use is an electro-magnet mounted in one end of 3" dia
(7.5cm) poly pipe, about 18" (45cm) long and has a press-switch on the other
end. It only has about a 25% duty cycle but since it was free, I can't
complain!
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Bryan
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

Quote:

If you have an old monitor, store it on its side or upside down for at
least 6 months and then re-test. I can guarantee you will see colour
bleed when reconnected. If it is old, it could take more than 10 power
cycles for the in-built de-gausser to fix the screen, assuming it has a
de-gausser and it works. The wand makes the fix much faster.

Dave

You must have bloody good eyes if you can detect a colour bleed in 0.2 of a
second

Personally, I think it would be caused by all the colours running to the
bottom after a long storage lol


Bryan
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

Roommate has a Samsung 19 lcd, and it sucks like hell. Color corection
is non existant. curently has 9 dead pixels. Dell has had a few good
products, but I curently have a viewSonic 21 " lcd and it works
flawlessly. I also have a Kogi 17" that has lasted me 5 years w no
dead pixels.
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Dave
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

"Bryan" <Idontthinkso@tim.com> wrote in message
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If you have an old monitor, store it on its side or upside down for at
least 6 months and then re-test. I can guarantee you will see colour
bleed when reconnected. If it is old, it could take more than 10 power
cycles for the in-built de-gausser to fix the screen, assuming it has a
de-gausser and it works. The wand makes the fix much faster.

Dave

You must have bloody good eyes if you can detect a colour bleed in 0.2 of
a second

Personally, I think it would be caused by all the colours running to the
bottom after a long storage lol


Perhaps colour bleed is not the correct term, but what the hell. ;)

Maybe I should call it "splodges" of weird colours on the screen ;) Another
weird thing was that 10 monitors could be stored on their sides, pointing in
the same direction, but they all would have different "splodge" patterns.
Very psychodelic!

Dunno about good eyes but I can see flicker in 85Hz CRT screens. My 17" LCD
screen is great compared to my old CRT. I house-sat at my friends place and
used his 15" LCDs, boy did I miss my 17". Can't wait to get some cash for a
19" or bigger.

Dave
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McGrandpa
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

"Dave" <dave2972@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Bryan" <Idontthinkso@tim.com> wrote in message
news:dk7h49$p58$1@otis.netspace.net.au...


If you have an old monitor, store it on its side or upside down for at
least 6 months and then re-test. I can guarantee you will see colour
bleed when reconnected. If it is old, it could take more than 10 power
cycles for the in-built de-gausser to fix the screen, assuming it has a
de-gausser and it works. The wand makes the fix much faster.

Dave

You must have bloody good eyes if you can detect a colour bleed in 0.2 of
a second

Personally, I think it would be caused by all the colours running to the
bottom after a long storage lol


Perhaps colour bleed is not the correct term, but what the hell. ;)

Maybe I should call it "splodges" of weird colours on the screen ;)
Another weird thing was that 10 monitors could be stored on their sides,
pointing in the same direction, but they all would have different
"splodge" patterns. Very psychodelic!

Dunno about good eyes but I can see flicker in 85Hz CRT screens. My 17"
LCD screen is great compared to my old CRT. I house-sat at my friends
place and used his 15" LCDs, boy did I miss my 17". Can't wait to get
some cash for a 19" or bigger.

Dave

Or perhaps a pair of sammy 930B's side by side? :)

McG.
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Dakota650r
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 19" or 20" TFT Samsung vs. Dell Reply with quote

"Scotter" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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I'm running dual Dell 2405 FPW (24" widescreen) LCDs and I LOVE them.

Those have several inputs right? like s-video, composite, component
etc....? When using say a dvd player on one of those inputs to watch a 16:9
ratio movie, does the monitor stretch the picture to fit its 16:10 ratio
screen size?
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