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DK
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject:
Confused about Canon ink refills |
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I want to buy Canon printer that will be very easy to refill.
I can buy iP6600D for $165 with shipping and perhaps get
$25 rebate back or I can get iP4000R for $119 total.
What I am totally unsure about is refilling of either. iP6600D
uses new cartridges which do not seem to be available
from refillers. Also, supposed to be new and improved inks.
According to this group, they also have chips on them.
iP4000R uses very popular cartridges which are not chipped
and the replacements and inks are widely available. I am
not sure what all of this implies in terms of ease of refilling
and usage. Questions:
1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without
ill effects?
2. What exactly can I expect to happen in the case of chipped
cartridges on iP6600D when I go ahead and refill them?
3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing
resolution 600x600 dpi for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the
same as for color: 9600 x 2400. Does this mean pure text will
be higher resolution? What what implication does the absence
of large black tank in the iP6600D will have?
Thank you very much for any comments you might have.
Dima |
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zakezuke
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject:
Re: Confused about Canon ink refills |
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| Quote: | 1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without ill effects?
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Well, information is limited, but near as I can tell the chipped tanks
can be refilled if you so desire, just the software will complain three
times your running close to empty before disabling the chip meter and
letting you print at your own risk. No further info is available.
| Quote: | 3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
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I'm told that UK users have a hard time buying 3rd party tanks with
prisms. Assuming you have a prism in your tank you get a warning hen
the reservoir is empty the sponge still holds about 20% of ink.
| Quote: | 4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing resolution 600x600 dpi
for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the same as for color: 9600 x 2400.
Does this mean pure text will be higher resolution?
What what implication does the absence
of large black tank in the iP6600D will have?
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The ip3000/4000/5000 all have the dedicated text tank. The nozzles
count is 320 which I believe are all the larger 5pl size. I assume
this becuase the color nozzles are 1/3 the lenth and have both small
2pl nozzles and 5pl, and the dpi is listed at 600. The nozzle count of
the ip6600D is 512 per color which is likely seperated into 128 5pl
nozzles and 384 1pl nozzles. I don't know this for a fact but it's a
reasonable assumption. Text printing is likely done with the larger
nozzles, and as they are smaller in number would require more strokes
than models with amore nozzles. Expect a peformance hit at the very
least. The ip5200 gets 512 nozzles for it's pigment black.
The mp950 gives you both the pigmented black and the 6 tank with light
cyan/magenta, but it carries with it a very high pricetag. |
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measekite
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:00 am Post subject:
Re: Confused about Canon ink refills |
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DK wrote:
| Quote: | I want to buy Canon printer that will be very easy to refill.
MISTAKE ONE: THAT SHOULD NOT BE A CONSIDERATION |
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I can buy iP6600D for $165 with shipping and perhaps get
$25 rebate back or I can get iP4000R for $119 total.
IP4000 IS BETTER |
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What I am totally unsure about is refilling of either. iP6600D
uses new cartridges which do not seem to be available
from refillers.
GREAT |
| Quote: | Also, supposed to be new and improved inks.
According to this group, they also have chips on them.
SO |
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iP4000R uses very popular cartridges which are not chipped
and the replacements and inks are widely available. I am
not sure what all of this implies in terms of ease of refilling
and usage. Questions:
1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without
ill effects?
IF YOU HAVE TO ASK THAT DUMB QUESTION DO NOT BUY IT |
| Quote: | 2. What exactly can I expect to happen in the case of chipped
cartridges on iP6600D when I go ahead and refill them?
A CLOGGED PRINTHEAD |
| Quote: | 3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
CLOGGING OF THE PRINTHEAD |
| Quote: | 4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing
resolution 600x600 dpi for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the
same as for color: 9600 x 2400. Does this mean pure text will
be higher resolution? What what implication does the absence
of large black tank in the iP6600D will have?
TEXT IS WORSE |
| Quote: | Thank you very much for any comments you might have.
Dima
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measekite
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:12 am Post subject:
Re: Confused about Canon ink refills |
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | 1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without ill effects?
Well, information is limited, No further info is available.
3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
I'm told that UK users have a hard time buying 3rd party tanks with
prisms.
4. Also, not clear about this one:
The ip3000/4000/5000 all have the dedicated text tank.
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Taliesyn
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:58 am Post subject:
Re: Confused about Canon ink refills |
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DK wrote:
| Quote: | I want to buy Canon printer that will be very easy to refill.
I can buy iP6600D for $165 with shipping and perhaps get
$25 rebate back or I can get iP4000R for $119 total.
What I am totally unsure about is refilling of either. iP6600D
uses new cartridges which do not seem to be available
from refillers. Also, supposed to be new and improved inks.
According to this group, they also have chips on them.
iP4000R uses very popular cartridges which are not chipped
and the replacements and inks are widely available. I am
not sure what all of this implies in terms of ease of refilling
and usage. Questions:
1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without
ill effects?
2. What exactly can I expect to happen in the case of chipped
cartridges on iP6600D when I go ahead and refill them?
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I can't help you with the very newest generation Canon printers as I
have no experience with them. You cannot expect to get compatible
cartridges for them from refillers because the printers just came out on
the market. It takes a while for the compatible ink and cartridge makers
to "catch up". I do know that bulk inks for them do already exist. The
people that sell the bulk inks should be able to help you with any
further questions.
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3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
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There are no issues with the iP4000 or iP5000 as long as you don't use
any ink that say "works in all printers" or "universal". There's no
such thing as an ink that will work equally well in Epson, HP, Canon and
Lexmark. You'll be compromising something somewhere.
I've used various brands of prefilled cartridges and bulk inks and
refill kits. But they were specifically formulated for the BCI-6 and
BCI-3e line of printers.
IMPORTANT: When it comes to clogging, please remember that it's not so
much which brand of ink you put in your printer, but HOW OFTEN YOU USE
IT. All inks are quick drying. If you plan to use it only once a month,
then you're definitely asking for trouble. I like to use mine (I have
two) at least twice a week, usually more.
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4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing
resolution 600x600 dpi for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the
same as for color: 9600 x 2400. Does this mean pure text will
be higher resolution? What what implication does the absence
of large black tank in the iP6600D will have?
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I can see no reason for text to be printed at 9600 DPI. A page of
text at that resolution will take a good 15 minutes! Pointless.
A 4x6 photo on my iP5000 takes near 4 minutes at 9600 dpi. That's
fine for photos, they need resolution. Black text does not, it's a solid
color.
-Taliesyn
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Thank you very much for any comments you might have.
Dima
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zakezuke
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
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Why do you feel the ip4000 is better than the ip6600D? Have you ever
used one? Have you ever seen one? I'm not saying you are wrong, for
all I know you could be correct, I just wonder what leads you to this
opinion since I have "never" seen it in stores. I've not seen a review
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Frank
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
Re: Confused about Canon ink refills |
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | ip4000 is better
Why do you feel the ip4000 is better than the ip6600D? Have you ever
used one? Have you ever seen one? I'm not saying you are wrong, for
all I know you could be correct, I just wonder what leads you to this
opinion since I have "never" seen it in stores. I've not seen a review
on it.
Oh com'on zz. We all know, just as you know, that measershithead is a |
fucking moron loser. He doesn't give a shit about the facts as they
relate to the truth. He is one big sicko. His only printer is an ip4000
which he sleeps with. Other than that all he ever post is the sos about
oem inks and changing others postings.
He nothing but a fucking loser!
Kill file his stuck on stupid ass so we don't have to ever see him again.
Frank |
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measekite
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Confused about Canon ink refills |
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*WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO BURTIE FURTIE*
Taliesyn wrote:
| Quote: | DK wrote:
I want to buy Canon printer that will be very easy to refill.
I can buy iP6600D for $165 with shipping and perhaps get $25 rebate
back or I can get iP4000R for $119 total.
What I am totally unsure about is refilling of either. iP6600D uses
new cartridges which do not seem to be available from refillers.
Also, supposed to be new and improved inks. According to this group,
they also have chips on them. iP4000R uses very popular cartridges
which are not chipped and the replacements and inks are widely
available. I am not sure what all of this implies in terms of ease of
refilling and usage. Questions:
1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without
ill effects?
2. What exactly can I expect to happen in the case of chipped
cartridges on iP6600D when I go ahead and refill them?
I can't help you with the very newest generation Canon printers as I
have no experience with them. You cannot expect to get compatible
cartridges for them from refillers because the printers just came out on
the market. It takes a while for the compatible ink and
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PATENT VIOLATOR
| Quote: | cartridge makers
to "catch up". I do know that bulk inks for them do already exist. The
people that sell the bulk inks should be able to help you with any
further questions
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YEAH JUST LIKE THE FOX WHO GUARDS THE HENHOUSE
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3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
There are no issues with the iP4000 or iP5000 as long as you don't use
any ink that say "works in all printers" or "universal". There's no
such thing as an ink that will work equally well in Epson, HP, Canon
and Lexmark. You'll be compromising something somewhere.
I've used various brands
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HE DOES NOT USE ANY BRANDS. THE VENDORS WHO SELL THEM WILL NOT TELL YOU
WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS.
| Quote: | of prefilled cartridges and bulk inks and refill kits. But they were
specifically formulated for the BCI-6 and
BCI-3e line of printers.
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REFILLING IS A MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS
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IMPORTANT: When it comes to clogging, please remember that it's not so
much which brand of ink you put in your printer, but HOW OFTEN YOU USE
IT. All inks are quick drying. If you plan to use it only once a
month, then you're definitely asking for trouble. I like to use mine
(I have two) at least twice a week, usually more.
4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing
resolution 600x600 dpi for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the same
as for color: 9600 x 2400. Does this mean pure text will be higher
resolution? What what implication does the absence of large black
tank in the iP6600D will have?
I can see no reason for text to be printed at 9600 DPI. A page of
text at that resolution will take a good 15 minutes! Pointless.
A 4x6 photo on my iP5000 takes near 4 minutes at 9600 dpi. That's
fine for photos, they need resolution. Black text does not, it's a solid
color.
-Taliesyn
Thank you very much for any comments you might have.
Dima
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measekite
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:31 pm Post subject:
Re: Confused about Canon ink refills |
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | ip4000 is better
Why do you feel the ip4000 is better than the ip6600D? Have you ever
used one? Have you ever seen one? I'm not saying you are wrong,
OF COURSE NOT |
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all I know you could be correct,
OF COURSE |
| Quote: | I just wonder what leads you to this
opinion since I have "never" seen it in stores. I've not seen a review
on it.
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measekite
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:34 pm Post subject:
Re: Confused about Canon ink refills |
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Frank wrote:
| Quote: | zakezuke wrote:
ip4000 is better
Why do you feel the ip4000 is better than the ip6600D? Have you ever
used one? Have you ever seen one? I'm not saying you are wrong, for
all I know you could be correct, I just wonder what leads you to this
opinion since I have "never" seen it in stores. I've not seen a review
on it.
Oh com'on zz. We all know, just as you know, that I am a fucking moron
loser. I do not give a shit about the facts as they relate to the
truth. I am one big sicko. My only printer is an i9900 which I sleeps
with. Other than that all I ever post is the sos about oem inks and
changing others postings.
I am nothing but a fucking loser!
Kill file his stuck on stupid ass so you don't have to ever see me again.
Frank
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THIS MUST BE FRANKIE CRANKIE ON SUNDAY AT CONFESSION. EVERYONE KNOWS
THE ASSHOLE IS A LOWFILE FUCKWIT RODENT. |
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zakezuke
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | for all I know you could be correct,
of course
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So why do you the ip4000 is superior to the ip6600D? Have you ever
seen an ip6600D? Have you ever used the ip6600D?. It's important for
others to get facts from people experence with the product.
I've never seen the ip6600D. The local stores don't carry it and in
fact the local office depot just put the ip4200 on the floor. |
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measekite
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:26 am Post subject:
Re: Confused about Canon ink refills |
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I have been testing it in the lab for the past six months
zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | for all I know you could be correct,
of course
So why do you the ip4000 is superior to the ip6600D? Have you ever
seen an ip6600D? Have you ever used the ip6600D?. It's important for
others to get facts from people experence with the product.
I've never seen the ip6600D. The local stores don't carry it and in
fact the local office depot just put the ip4200 on the floor.
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zakezuke
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:13 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | I have been testing it in the lab for the past six months
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Really? I thought you did front ends to databases in visual basic.
Correct me if i'm wrong but it would seem odd that someone who's
business is data would be wasting their time testing a photo printer,
or a consumer inkjet for that matter.
Are your results published? Care to share your hands on evaluation of
the ip6600D? |
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Larry Gold
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:49 pm Post subject:
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Only have Chips with Fish
I have a I905D have brought some cartridges £8 for a set and they work great
Now with a Chip I would have to spend around £15 on each one
--
Larry Gold
Arsenal For Life
arsenal49unbeaten03-04@hotmail.com
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| Quote: | I want to buy Canon printer that will be very easy to refill.
I can buy iP6600D for $165 with shipping and perhaps get
$25 rebate back or I can get iP4000R for $119 total.
What I am totally unsure about is refilling of either. iP6600D
uses new cartridges which do not seem to be available
from refillers. Also, supposed to be new and improved inks.
According to this group, they also have chips on them.
iP4000R uses very popular cartridges which are not chipped
and the replacements and inks are widely available. I am
not sure what all of this implies in terms of ease of refilling
and usage. Questions:
1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without
ill effects?
2. What exactly can I expect to happen in the case of chipped
cartridges on iP6600D when I go ahead and refill them?
3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing
resolution 600x600 dpi for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the
same as for color: 9600 x 2400. Does this mean pure text will
be higher resolution? What what implication does the absence
of large black tank in the iP6600D will have?
Thank you very much for any comments you might have.
Dima
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