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measekite
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 Posted:
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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IT IS NOT SO MUCH WHAT THEY BUY BUT WHAT THEY SAY. ADMIT THAT THE
VENDORS ARE REALLY NOT ALL THAT WONDERFUL AND DO NOT DISCLOSE
INFORMATION THAT ONE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SO THEY ARE WELL INFORMED
ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE BUYING. ADMIT THE FACT THAT IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE,
ESPECIALLY USING PREFILLED CARTS, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW THE MFG/FORMULATOR
THEN YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BUYING THE SAME PRODUCT UNDER A DIFFERENT
NAME FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
MOST OF THE IDIOTS IN THIS NG WILL NOT ADMIT THIS AND OTHER TRUTHS.
THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DEFEND THEM. THAT IS WHY I SAY THESE THINGS.
NOW I HEAR PANTONE MAKES QUALITY INKS BUT ONLY FOR EPSON AND AT HIGH
PRICES. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY MADE PREFILLED CARTS FOR ALL PRINTERS
AT ABOUT A 1/3 OF OEM. THEN I WOULD PROBABLY BE INCLINED TO TEST THEM
AND SEE FOR MY SELF.
IT ALL STARTED BY A COUPLE OF ASSHOLES CALLING ME NAMES FOR MY OPINION
AND THEN THE FLAMES BEGAN. I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THESE ASSHOLES STOP.
BYE BYE BURTIE FURTIE. THAT IS NICE.
zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | hope you get a print clog soon
What a terrible thing to say. You said in the past that you don't like
people getting cheated yet at the same time you hope the product they
buy causes damage? Just because someone doesn't go to the measekite
church of oem ink does not mean they deserve a damage. If you trully
believe what you said you would hope that their choice, one that you
disagree with, wouldn't cause them damage.
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Taliesyn
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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measekite wrote:
| Quote: | IT IS NOT SO MUCH WHAT THEY BUY BUT WHAT THEY SAY. ADMIT THAT THE
VENDORS ARE REALLY NOT ALL THAT WONDERFUL AND DO NOT DISCLOSE
INFORMATION THAT ONE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SO THEY ARE WELL INFORMED
ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE BUYING. ADMIT THE FACT THAT IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE,
ESPECIALLY USING PREFILLED CARTS, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW THE MFG/FORMULATOR
THEN YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BUYING THE SAME PRODUCT UNDER A DIFFERENT
NAME FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
MOST OF THE IDIOTS IN THIS NG WILL NOT ADMIT THIS AND OTHER TRUTHS.
THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DEFEND THEM. THAT IS WHY I SAY THESE THINGS.
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What am I going to admit to? There is no rash, plague or wave of people
in this newsgroup having any real problems with non-Canon inks.
Certainly not any more than people who use the overpriced Canon ones. In
fact, the only one, on a daily basis, in dozens of messages, who has
VERY serious problems and issues with the aftermarket inks is YOU - and
you've NEVER ever even tried any! Hmmmm..... let me think about the
absurdity of that scenario for a second. . . . Why would the MAJORITY
here care what the MINORITY (you!) has never used, compared or
experienced? On a scale of 1 to 10 you have zilch PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE of
any of these inks. Get some actual experience and then join in the
discussions.
| Quote: | NOW I HEAR PANTONE MAKES QUALITY INKS BUT ONLY FOR EPSON AND AT HIGH
PRICES. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY MADE PREFILLED CARTS FOR ALL PRINTERS
AT ABOUT A 1/3 OF OEM. THEN I WOULD PROBABLY BE INCLINED TO TEST THEM
AND SEE FOR MY SELF.
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We both know that day will never come. You'd never stick anything in
your printer unless it came straight from Canon. But... but, if you do,
you do know that you will become a member of the "church of aftermarket
inks". And everyone will then make fun of you. You don't want that, do
you?
| Quote: |
IT ALL STARTED BY A COUPLE OF ASSHOLES CALLING ME NAMES FOR MY OPINION
AND THEN THE FLAMES BEGAN. I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THESE ASSHOLES STOP.
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The usual explanation why someone turns ugly: He's not really a bad
person, he was just abused as a youth (in this "cruel" newsgroup
composed of mostly mature adults with families and kids).
And that gives you perfect right to abuse anyone else now, huh?
Before you get any sympathies from me or anyone else, you'd have to
prove yourself worthy of them . . . like ceasing blatant lies, stop
spreading misinformation, and stop calling people names. I go out of my
way not to call you names, although I've had every right and opportunity
to do so. Maybe that's why some newcomers to this group recently bought
my information and totally skipped yours - because of your "troll"
label. It's up to you, do you want to continue what you yourself have
created? Because I can see, no one's buying most of your opinions.
While there is some truth in what you say, I judge it too insignificant
and not a valid enough reason for me to go back and use ink which costs
more than my printer! Close to 10 years experience with non OEM inks
(for Epson, Lexmark, HP and Canon printers) has shown that I have little
to fear using them and so much - as in money - to gain. And THIS IS NOT
A BLATANT LIE! If it were I'd be using OEM inks right now, wouldn't I.
-Taliesyn |
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zakezuke
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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| Quote: | it is not so much what they buy but what they say. admit that the venders are really not
all that wonderful and do not disclose information that one really would like to know so
they are well informed about what they are buying.
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Actually you are fixcated on the Formulabs reformulation when they
changed the magenta and it didn't work so well. This is proof that the
inks supplied by the venders are comming from Sensient - Formulabs.
As far as knowing what one is buying, what you say is in part true.
Many venders don't disclose the brand of ink they are selling. Others
will. This is perfectly normal with many wholesalers esp when their
business is production and don't want the tedium of end user support.
Your favorite paper, Kirkland Photo Paper is a prime example. Costco,
the vender, won't tell you who makes it. But we both know it's pretty
good. So good we reccomend it to others. We've been over this.
| Quote: | it all started by a couple of assholes calling me names for my opinion
and then the flames began. i will not stop until these assholes stop.
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With all due respect, someone asked made a choice go go with some 3rd
party solution and you said "I hope you get a printhead clog.". This
clearly indicates that you are harrassing not at all related to the
original people who you argued with that started your vendetta. So
what you are telling me is that you are willing to lie about the
products and harass others asking legitimate questions because you feel
you were treated unfairly by a few users? And because you feel you
were treated unfairly you hope anyone who listens to people you don't
like experence damage to their hardware? Is this what you are saying? |
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measekite
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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Taliesyn wrote:
| Quote: | measekite wrote:
IT IS NOT SO MUCH WHAT THEY BUY BUT WHAT THEY SAY. ADMIT THAT THE
VENDORS ARE REALLY NOT ALL THAT WONDERFUL AND DO NOT DISCLOSE
INFORMATION THAT ONE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SO THEY ARE WELL
INFORMED ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE BUYING. ADMIT THE FACT THAT IF YOU HAVE
TROUBLE, ESPECIALLY USING PREFILLED CARTS, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW THE
MFG/FORMULATOR THEN YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BUYING THE SAME PRODUCT
UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
MOST OF THE IDIOTS IN THIS NG WILL NOT ADMIT THIS AND OTHER TRUTHS.
THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DEFEND THEM. THAT IS WHY I SAY THESE
THINGS.
What am I going to admit to? There is no rash, plague or wave of people
in this newsgroup having any real problems with non-Canon inks.
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KIDTALK -- THERE CERTAINLY IS BUT YOU CANNOT READ
| Quote: | Certainly not any more than people who use the overpriced Canon ones. In
fact, the only one, on a daily basis, in dozens of messages, who has
VERY serious problems and issues with the aftermarket inks is YOU - and
you've NEVER ever even tried any!
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DUMB KID TALK. FINNISH HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN COME BACK
| Quote: | Hmmmm..... let me think about the
absurdity of that scenario for a second. . . . Why would the MAJORITY
here care what the MINORITY (you!) has never used, compared or
experienced? On a scale of 1 to 10 you have zilch PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE of
any of these inks. Get some actual experience and then join in the
discussions.
NOW I HEAR PANTONE MAKES QUALITY INKS BUT ONLY FOR EPSON AND AT HIGH
PRICES. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY MADE PREFILLED CARTS FOR ALL
PRINTERS AT ABOUT A 1/3 OF OEM. THEN I WOULD PROBABLY BE INCLINED TO
TEST THEM AND SEE FOR MY SELF.
We both know that day will never come. You'd never stick anything in
your printer unless it came straight from Canon. But... but, if you do,
you do know that you will become a member of the "church of aftermarket
inks". And everyone will then make fun of you. You don't want that, do
you?
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NOW YOU ARE A REALLY DUMB SHMUCK KIT WITH EARS
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IT ALL STARTED BY A COUPLE OF ASSHOLES CALLING ME NAMES FOR MY
OPINION AND THEN THE FLAMES BEGAN. I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THESE
ASSHOLES STOP.
The usual explanation why someone turns ugly: He's not really a bad
person, he was just abused as a youth (in this "cruel" newsgroup
composed of mostly mature adults with families and kids).
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MOMMY IS CALLING YOU FOR DINNER. MAKE SURE YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
| Quote: |
And that gives you perfect right to abuse anyone else now, huh?
Before you get any sympathies from me or anyone else, you'd have to
prove yourself worthy of them . . . like ceasing blatant lies, stop
spreading misinformation, and stop calling people names. I go out of my
way not to call you names, although I've had every right and opportunity
to do so. Maybe that's why some newcomers to this group recently bought
my information and totally skipped yours - because of your "troll"
label. It's up to you, do you want to continue what you yourself have
created? Because I can see, no one's buying most of your opinions.
While there is some *truth in what you say*,
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OF COURSE THERE IS.
| Quote: | I judge it too insignificant and not a valid enough reason for me to
go back and use ink which costs
more than my printer! Close to 10 years experience with non OEM inks
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SINCE YOU WERE 5?
| Quote: | (for Epson, Lexmark, HP and Canon printers) has shown that I have little
to fear using them and so much - as in money - to gain. And THIS IS NOT
A BLATANT LIE! If it were I'd be using OEM inks right now, wouldn't I.
-Taliesyn |
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measekite
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | it is not so much what they buy but what they say. admit that the venders are really not
all that wonderful and do not disclose information that one really would like to know so
they are well informed about what they are buying.
Actually you are fixcated on the *Formulabs reformulation when they
changed the magenta and it didn't work so well*. This is proof that the
inks supplied by the venders are comming from Sensient - Formulabs.
*As far as knowing what one is buying, what you say* *is* in part *true*.
Many *venders don't disclose* the brand of ink they are selling. Others
will. This is perfectly normal with many wholesalers esp when their
business is production and don't want the tedium of end user support.
Your favorite paper, Kirkland Photo Paper is a prime example. Costco,
the vender, won't tell you who makes it.
THEY TOLD ME ILFORD. AND YOU CANNOT COMPARE COSTCO TO A PODUNK WEBBER |
| Quote: | But we both know it's pretty
good. So good we reccomend it to others. We've been over this.
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AND PAPER WILL NOT CLOG THE PRINHEAD
| Quote: |
it all started by a couple of assholes calling me names for my opinion
and then the flames began. i will not stop until these assholes stop.
With all due respect, someone asked made a choice go go with some 3rd
party solution and you said "I hope you get a printhead clog.".
MY OPINION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CUSTOMERS BRING THE WHORES TO THEIR |
KNEES SO THEY WILL DISCLOSE WHAT THEY ARE SELLING.
| Quote: | This
clearly indicates that you are harrassing not at all related to the
original people who you argued with that started your vendetta. So
what you are telling me is that you are willing to lie about the
products and harass others asking legitimate questions because you feel
you were treated unfairly by a few users? And because you feel you
were treated unfairly you hope anyone who listens to people you don't
like experence damage to their hardware? Is this what you are saying?
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zakezuke
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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| Quote: | they told me ilford
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They never told me ilford. The only thing on the box is the country of
make. For all we know it's made by some other Swiss paper factory. I
agree it "could" be Ilford but neither Ilford nor Costco will disclose
who's product that is. Now Sam's Club carries Ilford, but Sam's Club,
the vender, will not disclose it's not the same Smooth Pearl sold in
specialty shops.
| Quote: | and you cannot compare costco to a podunk webber
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Why not? They are a vender. They carry many products bought from
wholesalers many of which they will not officaly disclose.
| Quote: | With all due respect, someone asked made a choice go go with some 3rd
party solution and you said "I hope you get a printhead clog.".
my opinion. i would like to see customers bring the whores to their knees so they will
disclose what they are selling.
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That isn't an opinion. "I hope you get a printhead clog" is a desire.
It's also a form of harassment. An opinion would be "I feel that using
X product will result in a clog". That's an opinion. But according to
what you just said you don't voice your opinion, you engage in
harassment to protest being treated unfairly by a few users and the
fact that *some* or most venders will not disclose who makes the ink.
Which is a moot point because Canon, Epson, HP, Brother, no one will
disclose who makes their ink. |
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Frank
Guest
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:02 am Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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Taliesyn wrote:
| Quote: | measekite wrote:
IT IS NOT SO MUCH WHAT THEY BUY BUT WHAT THEY SAY. ADMIT THAT THE
VENDORS ARE REALLY NOT ALL THAT WONDERFUL AND DO NOT DISCLOSE
INFORMATION THAT ONE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SO THEY ARE WELL
INFORMED ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE BUYING. ADMIT THE FACT THAT IF YOU HAVE
TROUBLE, ESPECIALLY USING PREFILLED CARTS, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW THE
MFG/FORMULATOR THEN YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BUYING THE SAME PRODUCT
UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
MOST OF THE IDIOTS IN THIS NG WILL NOT ADMIT THIS AND OTHER TRUTHS.
THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DEFEND THEM. THAT IS WHY I SAY THESE THINGS.
What am I going to admit to? There is no rash, plague or wave of people
in this newsgroup having any real problems with non-Canon inks.
Certainly not any more than people who use the overpriced Canon ones. In
fact, the only one, on a daily basis, in dozens of messages, who has
VERY serious problems and issues with the aftermarket inks is YOU - and
you've NEVER ever even tried any! Hmmmm..... let me think about the
absurdity of that scenario for a second. . . . Why would the MAJORITY
here care what the MINORITY (you!) has never used, compared or
experienced? On a scale of 1 to 10 you have zilch PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE of
any of these inks. Get some actual experience and then join in the
discussions.
NOW I HEAR PANTONE MAKES QUALITY INKS BUT ONLY FOR EPSON AND AT HIGH
PRICES. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY MADE PREFILLED CARTS FOR ALL
PRINTERS AT ABOUT A 1/3 OF OEM. THEN I WOULD PROBABLY BE INCLINED TO
TEST THEM AND SEE FOR MY SELF.
We both know that day will never come. You'd never stick anything in
your printer unless it came straight from Canon. But... but, if you do,
you do know that you will become a member of the "church of aftermarket
inks". And everyone will then make fun of you. You don't want that, do
you?
IT ALL STARTED BY A COUPLE OF ASSHOLES CALLING ME NAMES FOR MY OPINION
AND THEN THE FLAMES BEGAN. I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THESE ASSHOLES STOP.
The usual explanation why someone turns ugly: He's not really a bad
person, he was just abused as a youth (in this "cruel" newsgroup
composed of mostly mature adults with families and kids).
And that gives you perfect right to abuse anyone else now, huh?
Before you get any sympathies from me or anyone else, you'd have to
prove yourself worthy of them . . . like ceasing blatant lies, stop
spreading misinformation, and stop calling people names. I go out of my
way not to call you names, although I've had every right and opportunity
to do so. Maybe that's why some newcomers to this group recently bought
my information and totally skipped yours - because of your "troll"
label. It's up to you, do you want to continue what you yourself have
created? Because I can see, no one's buying most of your opinions.
While there is some truth in what you say, I judge it too insignificant
and not a valid enough reason for me to go back and use ink which costs
more than my printer! Close to 10 years experience with non OEM inks
(for Epson, Lexmark, HP and Canon printers) has shown that I have little
to fear using them and so much - as in money - to gain. And THIS IS NOT
A BLATANT LIE! If it were I'd be using OEM inks right now, wouldn't I.
-Taliesyn
We all know the truth about measershithead. He's one big lying fuckwit |
asshole. Nothing he says is the truth.
Fuck him and boat he came over on.
Loser!
Frank |
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Frank
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:10 am Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | they told me ilford
They never told me ilford. The only thing on the box is the country of
make. For all we know it's made by some other Swiss paper factory. I
agree it "could" be Ilford but neither Ilford nor Costco will disclose
who's product that is. Now Sam's Club carries Ilford, but Sam's Club,
the vender, will not disclose it's not the same Smooth Pearl sold in
specialty shops.
and you cannot compare costco to a podunk webber
Why not? They are a vender. They carry many products bought from
wholesalers many of which they will not officaly disclose.
With all due respect, someone asked made a choice go go with some 3rd
party solution and you said "I hope you get a printhead clog.".
my opinion. i would like to see customers bring the whores to their knees so they will
disclose what they are selling.
That isn't an opinion. "I hope you get a printhead clog" is a desire.
It's also a form of harassment. An opinion would be "I feel that using
X product will result in a clog". That's an opinion. But according to
what you just said you don't voice your opinion, you engage in
harassment to protest being treated unfairly by a few users and the
fact that *some* or most venders will not disclose who makes the ink.
Which is a moot point because Canon, Epson, HP, Brother, no one will
disclose who makes their ink.
What a complete moron jerk measershithead is. He's so fucking stupid |
that he actually believes that canon et al disclose who manufactures
their ink and what the formulation is.
He is a shining example of just how gullible and stupid one person can
be. He actually thinks that just because he believes big corp speak we
should. He believes that having no experience (like him) with
aftermarket inks as opposed to those of us who have used them for
DECADES don't know what we are talking about.
Fuck him!
Loser.
Frank |
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measekite
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:21 am Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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zakezuke wrote:
| Quote: | they told me ilford
They never told me ilford. The only thing on the box is the country of
make. For all we know it's made by some other Swiss paper factory. I
agree it "could" be Ilford but neither Ilford nor Costco will disclose
who's product that is. Now Sam's Club carries Ilford, but Sam's Club,
the vender, will not disclose it's not the same Smooth Pearl sold in
specialty shops.
and you cannot compare costco to a podunk webber
Why not? They are a vender.
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IF YOU HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION THAT YOUR INTELLIGENCE IS IN QUESTION
| Quote: | They carry many products bought from
wholesalers many of which they will not officaly disclose.
With all due respect, someone asked made a choice go go with some 3rd
party solution and you said "I hope you get a printhead clog.".
my opinion. i would like to see customers bring the whores to their knees so they will
disclose what they are selling.
That isn't an opinion. "I hope you get a printhead clog" is a desire.
It's also a form of harassment. An opinion would be "I feel that using
X product will result in a clog". That's an opinion. But according to
what you just said you don't voice your opinion, you engage in
harassment to protest being treated unfairly by a few users and the
fact that *some* or most venders will not disclose who makes the ink.
Which is a moot point because Canon, Epson, HP, Brother, no one will
disclose who makes their ink.
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measekite
Guest
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:23 am Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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Frank wrote:
| Quote: | Taliesyn wrote:
measekite wrote:
IT IS NOT SO MUCH WHAT THEY BUY BUT WHAT THEY SAY. ADMIT THAT THE
VENDORS ARE REALLY NOT ALL THAT WONDERFUL AND DO NOT DISCLOSE
INFORMATION THAT ONE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SO THEY ARE WELL
INFORMED ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE BUYING. ADMIT THE FACT THAT IF YOU
HAVE TROUBLE, ESPECIALLY USING PREFILLED CARTS, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW
THE MFG/FORMULATOR THEN YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BUYING THE SAME
PRODUCT UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
MOST OF THE IDIOTS IN THIS NG WILL NOT ADMIT THIS AND OTHER TRUTHS.
THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DEFEND THEM. THAT IS WHY I SAY THESE
THINGS.
What am I going to admit to? There is no rash, plague or wave of people
in this newsgroup having any real problems with non-Canon inks.
Certainly not any more than people who use the overpriced Canon ones. In
fact, the only one, on a daily basis, in dozens of messages, who has
VERY serious problems and issues with the aftermarket inks is YOU - and
you've NEVER ever even tried any! Hmmmm..... let me think about the
absurdity of that scenario for a second. . . . Why would the MAJORITY
here care what the MINORITY (you!) has never used, compared or
experienced? On a scale of 1 to 10 you have zilch PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE of
any of these inks. Get some actual experience and then join in the
discussions.
NOW I HEAR PANTONE MAKES QUALITY INKS BUT ONLY FOR EPSON AND AT HIGH
PRICES. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY MADE PREFILLED CARTS FOR ALL
PRINTERS AT ABOUT A 1/3 OF OEM. THEN I WOULD PROBABLY BE INCLINED
TO TEST THEM AND SEE FOR MY SELF.
We both know that day will never come. You'd never stick anything in
your printer unless it came straight from Canon. But... but, if you do,
you do know that you will become a member of the "church of aftermarket
inks". And everyone will then make fun of you. You don't want that, do
you?
IT ALL STARTED BY A COUPLE OF ASSHOLES CALLING ME NAMES FOR MY
OPINION AND THEN THE FLAMES BEGAN. I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THESE
ASSHOLES STOP.
The usual explanation why someone turns ugly: He's not really a bad
person, he was just abused as a youth (in this "cruel" newsgroup
composed of mostly mature adults with families and kids).
And that gives you perfect right to abuse anyone else now, huh?
Before you get any sympathies from me or anyone else, you'd have to
prove yourself worthy of them . . . like ceasing blatant lies, stop
spreading misinformation, and stop calling people names. I go out of my
way not to call you names, although I've had every right and opportunity
to do so. Maybe that's why some newcomers to this group recently bought
my information and totally skipped yours - because of your "troll"
label. It's up to you, do you want to continue what you yourself have
created? Because I can see, no one's buying most of your opinions.
While there is some truth in what you say, I judge it too insignificant
and not a valid enough reason for me to go back and use ink which costs
more than my printer! Close to 10 years experience with non OEM inks
(for Epson, Lexmark, HP and Canon printers) has shown that I have little
to fear using them and so much - as in money - to gain. And THIS IS NOT
A BLATANT LIE! If it were I'd be using OEM inks right now, wouldn't I.
-Taliesyn
We all know the truth about *me *. I am one *big lying fuckwit
asshole*. Nothing I say is the truth.
Fuck me and boat I came over on.
Loser!
*Frank *
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measekite
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:26 am Post subject:
Re: PIXMA iP5200R |
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Frank wrote:
| Quote: | zakezuke wrote:
they told me ilford
They never told me ilford. The only thing on the box is the country of
make. For all we know it's made by some other Swiss paper factory. I
agree it "could" be Ilford but neither Ilford nor Costco will disclose
who's product that is. Now Sam's Club carries Ilford, but Sam's Club,
the vender, will not disclose it's not the same Smooth Pearl sold in
specialty shops.
and you cannot compare costco to a podunk webber
Why not? They are a vender. They carry many products bought from
wholesalers many of which they will not officaly disclose.
With all due respect, someone asked made a choice go go with some 3rd
party solution and you said "I hope you get a printhead clog.".
my opinion. i would like to see customers bring the whores to their
knees so they will
disclose what they are selling.
That isn't an opinion. "I hope you get a printhead clog" is a desire.
It's also a form of harassment. An opinion would be "I feel that using
X product will result in a clog". That's an opinion. But according to
what you just said you don't voice your opinion, you engage in
harassment to protest being treated unfairly by a few users and the
fact that *some* or most venders will not disclose who makes the ink.
Which is a moot point because Canon, Epson, HP, Brother, no one will
disclose who makes their ink.
What a complete moron jerk I am. I'm so fucking stupid that I actually
believe that canon et al disclose who manufactures their ink and what
the formulation is.
I'm a shining example of just how gullible and stupid one person can
be.I actually think that just because I believe big corp speak we
should. I believe that having no experience (like me) with aftermarket
inks as opposed to those who have used them for CENTRUIES don't know
what we are talking about.
Fuck me!
Loser. Frank
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zakezuke
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:55 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | if you have to ask that question that your intelligence is in question
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Costco is a vender. They sell among otherthings Kirkland photopaper, a
store label not a brand. My intelligence is not in question.
Are you saying that Costco is allowed to sell unbranded products
without disclosing who manufactured them and other companies webbies
small medium and large are not?
Or are you saying that you would only trust a vender that has retail
locations, in which case Fred Meyers, Office Depot, Office Max,
Staples, Costco all offer 3rd party solutions. Come to think about it,
I heard of a place who offers refill as you wait at the local mall.
Been meaning to check them out. |
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measekite
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
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Frank wrote:
| Quote: | JHG wrote:
I am the OP of this topic.
I'm so very sorry for the trouble this topic has caused.
All I wanted was a little info about this printer.
I didn't expect so many people to get their knickers in a knot about
what
ink I may use or may not use if I buy this printer.
JHG
You're a trouble maker. You had nothing but a illegitimate question.
EVERYONE here knows that...except me, our resident fuckwit moron who
is an asshole and the real trouble maker.
Frank
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YES YOU ARE A TROUBLEMAKER
YES YOU ARE A FUCKWIT MORON
AND YES YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE
WE ALL AGREE WITH YOU
YOU ARE ALSO A SHMUCK WITH EARS. THAT IS WHAT YOUR UGLY WIFE SAYS. |
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Tony
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
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No way should you be apologising for asking a question here.
Unfortunately this type of garbage happens in this ng but if you sift the
answers you can get good information.
In your case the problem is that the printer is very new, but it uses the same
engine as the printer it replaces and that has proved to be very reliable and
produces good quality.
I think this series of cannon printers is first rate and you get good value for
your money. Your post does not indicate the specific uses you have in mind so
it is difficult to give advice but good luck...if you decide to buy the 5200R I
would be very surprised if you are unhappy with it.
Tony
"JHG" <jhg@jgbird.org> wrote:
| Quote: | I am the OP of this topic.
I'm so very sorry for the trouble this topic has caused.
All I wanted was a little info about this printer.
I didn't expect so many people to get their knickers in a knot about what
ink I may use or may not use if I buy this printer.
JHG
"Frank" <fb@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:OZb7f.10913$gj1.2484@fed1read05...
Taliesyn wrote:
measekite wrote:
IT IS NOT SO MUCH WHAT THEY BUY BUT WHAT THEY SAY. ADMIT THAT THE
VENDORS ARE REALLY NOT ALL THAT WONDERFUL AND DO NOT DISCLOSE
INFORMATION THAT ONE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SO THEY ARE WELL
INFORMED
ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE BUYING. ADMIT THE FACT THAT IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE,
ESPECIALLY USING PREFILLED CARTS, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW THE
MFG/FORMULATOR
THEN YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF BUYING THE SAME PRODUCT UNDER A
DIFFERENT
NAME FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
MOST OF THE IDIOTS IN THIS NG WILL NOT ADMIT THIS AND OTHER TRUTHS.
THEY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DEFEND THEM. THAT IS WHY I SAY THESE
THINGS.
What am I going to admit to? There is no rash, plague or wave of people
in this newsgroup having any real problems with non-Canon inks.
Certainly not any more than people who use the overpriced Canon ones.
In
fact, the only one, on a daily basis, in dozens of messages, who has
VERY serious problems and issues with the aftermarket inks is YOU - and
you've NEVER ever even tried any! Hmmmm..... let me think about the
absurdity of that scenario for a second. . . . Why would the MAJORITY
here care what the MINORITY (you!) has never used, compared or
experienced? On a scale of 1 to 10 you have zilch PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE of
any of these inks. Get some actual experience and then join in the
discussions.
NOW I HEAR PANTONE MAKES QUALITY INKS BUT ONLY FOR EPSON AND AT HIGH
PRICES. IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY MADE PREFILLED CARTS FOR ALL
PRINTERS
AT ABOUT A 1/3 OF OEM. THEN I WOULD PROBABLY BE INCLINED TO TEST THEM
AND SEE FOR MY SELF.
We both know that day will never come. You'd never stick anything in
your printer unless it came straight from Canon. But... but, if you do,
you do know that you will become a member of the "church of aftermarket
inks". And everyone will then make fun of you. You don't want that, do
you?
IT ALL STARTED BY A COUPLE OF ASSHOLES CALLING ME NAMES FOR MY OPINION
AND THEN THE FLAMES BEGAN. I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL THESE ASSHOLES STOP.
The usual explanation why someone turns ugly: He's not really a bad
person, he was just abused as a youth (in this "cruel" newsgroup
composed of mostly mature adults with families and kids).
And that gives you perfect right to abuse anyone else now, huh?
Before you get any sympathies from me or anyone else, you'd have to
prove yourself worthy of them . . . like ceasing blatant lies, stop
spreading misinformation, and stop calling people names. I go out of my
way not to call you names, although I've had every right and
opportunity
to do so. Maybe that's why some newcomers to this group recently bought
my information and totally skipped yours - because of your "troll"
label. It's up to you, do you want to continue what you yourself have
created? Because I can see, no one's buying most of your opinions.
While there is some truth in what you say, I judge it too insignificant
and not a valid enough reason for me to go back and use ink which costs
more than my printer! Close to 10 years experience with non OEM inks
(for Epson, Lexmark, HP and Canon printers) has shown that I have
little
to fear using them and so much - as in money - to gain. And THIS IS
NOT
A BLATANT LIE! If it were I'd be using OEM inks right now, wouldn't I.
-Taliesyn
We all know the truth about measershithead. He's one big lying fuckwit
asshole. Nothing he says is the truth.
Fuck him and boat he came over on.
Loser!
Frank |
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Frank
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
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JHG wrote:
| Quote: | I am the OP of this topic.
I'm so very sorry for the trouble this topic has caused.
All I wanted was a little info about this printer.
I didn't expect so many people to get their knickers in a knot about what
ink I may use or may not use if I buy this printer.
JHG
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You're not a trouble maker. You had nothing but a legitimate question.
EVERYONE here knows that...except measershithead, our resident fuckwit
moron who is an asshole and the real trouble maker.
Frank |
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