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Michael C
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject:
Raid drive dead, now what? |
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I'm using 4 drives in a raid 1 config (2 for the OS and 2 for data) and one
of the drives is already dead. I removed it and the machine is still running
fine. I'm sending the drive off for RA and should have a replacement soon.
What do I do when I get the new drive, just shove it back in? Or do I need
to format it first or do anything else with it?
BTW, I noticed something interesting about raid, although it's more reliable
there is now 4 times the chance that a drive will fail.
Michael |
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Gary Hendricks
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Alceryes
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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"Michael C" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4353a188$0$30055$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
| Quote: | I'm using 4 drives in a raid 1 config (2 for the OS and 2 for data) and
one of the drives is already dead. I removed it and the machine is still
running fine. I'm sending the drive off for RA and should have a
replacement soon. What do I do when I get the new drive, just shove it
back in? Or do I need to format it first or do anything else with it?
BTW, I noticed something interesting about raid, although it's more
reliable there is now 4 times the chance that a drive will fail.
Michael
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Yea, just attach the new drive where the old one was, go into the raid
controller menu on boot up and recreate the array. It should they copy all
the contents from the one good drive back onto the new one. Depending on the
controller it may boot into the raid config. page and do the mirror
semi-automatically (just asking for your OK to do it).
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"I don't cheat to survive. I cheat to LIVE!!"
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Michael C
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:21 am Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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"Alceryes" <replytopost@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Yea, just attach the new drive where the old one was, go into the raid
controller menu on boot up and recreate the array. It should they copy all
the contents from the one good drive back onto the new one. Depending on
the controller it may boot into the raid config. page and do the mirror
semi-automatically (just asking for your OK to do it).
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Thanks for the reply. Does that mean it's not possible to do it while the
machine is running? Shutting it down is no problem I'm just curious.
Michael |
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kony
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:42 pm Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:21:12 +1000, "Michael C"
<me@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Alceryes" <replytopost@thankyou.com> wrote in message
news:xrQ4f.17553$q1.6579@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Yea, just attach the new drive where the old one was, go into the raid
controller menu on boot up and recreate the array. It should they copy all
the contents from the one good drive back onto the new one. Depending on
the controller it may boot into the raid config. page and do the mirror
semi-automatically (just asking for your OK to do it).
Thanks for the reply. Does that mean it's not possible to do it while the
machine is running? Shutting it down is no problem I'm just curious.
Michael
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That depends on what your controller supports. Read the
documentation that came with it. If the machine doesn't
"need" to stay up, there is no good reason to not turn it
off, first. |
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Michael C
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:26 am Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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"Michael C" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4353a188$0$30055$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
| Quote: | I'm using 4 drives in a raid 1 config (2 for the OS and 2 for data) and
one of the drives is already dead. I removed it and the machine is still
running fine. I'm sending the drive off for RA and should have a
replacement soon. What do I do when I get the new drive, just shove it
back in? Or do I need to format it first or do anything else with it?
BTW, I noticed something interesting about raid, although it's more
reliable there is now 4 times the chance that a drive will fail.
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I contacted the motherboard supplier, Super Micro and they said I'm meant to
insert the new drive *while* windows is booting! Then use the windows
software to rebuild the array. Would be good if it said that in the manual
:-) I won't get to try it out for the next couple of days.
Michael |
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kony
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:26:02 +1100, "Michael C"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I contacted the motherboard supplier, Super Micro and they said I'm meant to
insert the new drive *while* windows is booting! Then use the windows
software to rebuild the array. Would be good if it said that in the manual
:-) I won't get to try it out for the next couple of days.
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They have misinterpreted something then, there should not be
a need to plug in a drive while system is booting. However
they are correct that typically once the drive is connected
and system has booted, use of the controller management
software is a good way to rebuild the array onto the spare
drive. |
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Michael C
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | They have misinterpreted something then, there should not be
a need to plug in a drive while system is booting.
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You wouldn't think so, the bios reports that I'm doing everything right. It
asks if I want to rebuild and I say yes, it then says it will be rebuilt in
the OS. But this is what they wrote:
Michael,
You must have the Intel Management Raid Application utility
install. Remove the new replacement drive and power on to see it
bootable with one drive. If yes then try to insert the new replacement
drive before Windows bring up desktop screen.
After Windows OS complete boot-up into the OS and run Intel Management
raid application and follow the instruction how to rebuilt the raid.
Thank you,
DL |
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kony
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:18:53 +1100, "Michael C"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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They have misinterpreted something then, there should not be
a need to plug in a drive while system is booting.
You wouldn't think so, the bios reports that I'm doing everything right. It
asks if I want to rebuild and I say yes, it then says it will be rebuilt in
the OS. But this is what they wrote:
Michael,
You must have the Intel Management Raid Application utility
install. Remove the new replacement drive and power on to see it
bootable with one drive. If yes then try to insert the new replacement
drive before Windows bring up desktop screen.
After Windows OS complete boot-up into the OS and run Intel Management
raid application and follow the instruction how to rebuilt the raid.
Thank you,
DL
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Seems a little buggy to me.
If that works, it should likewise work to simply install the
drive with system off, _not_ choose to rebuild the array in
the raid bios config screen, boot to the desktop and
similarly use the management SW to rebuild it.
You might check in occasionally for a bios update for your
board, I'd think IF this is a real issue they'd be looking
at fixing it ASAP. |
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Bennett Price
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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I'd try all other options before inserting a drive while the system is
powered on, whether just booting or fully running. At the very least,
the BIOS might not recognize it, at worst you run the risk of zapping
components.
Michael C wrote:
| Quote: | "Michael C" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4353a188$0$30055$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
I'm using 4 drives in a raid 1 config (2 for the OS and 2 for data) and
one of the drives is already dead. I removed it and the machine is still
running fine. I'm sending the drive off for RA and should have a
replacement soon. What do I do when I get the new drive, just shove it
back in? Or do I need to format it first or do anything else with it?
BTW, I noticed something interesting about raid, although it's more
reliable there is now 4 times the chance that a drive will fail.
I contacted the motherboard supplier, Super Micro and they said I'm meant to
insert the new drive *while* windows is booting! Then use the windows
software to rebuild the array. Would be good if it said that in the manual
:-) I won't get to try it out for the next couple of days.
Michael
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Michael C
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:05 am Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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"Bennett Price" <bjpriceNOSPAM@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I'd try all other options before inserting a drive while the system is
powered on, whether just booting or fully running. At the very least, the
BIOS might not recognize it, at worst you run the risk of zapping
components.
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It's meant to be hot swappable so there should be no problem. I already
tried inserting it after it's booted which didn't cause any problems (it
didn't fix anything either though :-)
Michael |
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kony
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:30 am Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:05:04 +1100, "Michael C"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Bennett Price" <bjpriceNOSPAM@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote in message
news:Hm4df.12362$7h7.6844@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
I'd try all other options before inserting a drive while the system is
powered on, whether just booting or fully running. At the very least, the
BIOS might not recognize it, at worst you run the risk of zapping
components.
It's meant to be hot swappable so there should be no problem. I already
tried inserting it after it's booted which didn't cause any problems (it
didn't fix anything either though :-)
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What does "didn't fix" mean?
After swapping it in, the management interface still can't
rebuild onto it? |
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Michael C
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | What does "didn't fix" mean?
After swapping it in, the management interface still can't
rebuild onto it?
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It doesn't even see it as being there. I guess it looks for the drives when
windows starts.
Michael |
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Michael C
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
Re: Raid drive dead, now what? |
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"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Seems a little buggy to me.
If that works, it should likewise work to simply install the
drive with system off, _not_ choose to rebuild the array in
the raid bios config screen, boot to the desktop and
similarly use the management SW to rebuild it.
You might check in occasionally for a bios update for your
board, I'd think IF this is a real issue they'd be looking
at fixing it ASAP.
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I agree, it sounds dodgy. I'll try it on wednesday and let you know how I
go.
Michael |
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