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Don R.
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:37 am Post subject:
Re: WHICH FILM/SLIDE SCANNER TO BUY???? |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:08:11 GMT, "Neil Gould"
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| Quote: | How many do you need? ;-)
At least Nikon, Minolta, Canon, and Microtek have models that will do
decently with color slides.
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I only need one. ;-)
Could you be specific as to the models? And, maybe the price range?
Thanks.
Don R.
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Don R.
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:43 am Post subject:
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On 4 Nov 2005 22:35:26 -0800, "DenverDad" <the_applegates@comcast.net>
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Another suggestion which comes to mind is to see if you can get someone
to scan one of your slides for you so you can see how well a particular
scanner performs. If you're lucky, you might be able to find someone
near you willing to do this. If not, you might be able to get someone
from this listing to scan it for you. I'm sure there are many - myself
included - who would be more than happy to show you what their favorite
scanner is capable of!
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Thanks, Jeff, for some very appreciated input. I'll check wround town
here and see if there's anyone with an appropriate scanner. I'll be
surprised if there is; I'm in quite a small west coast town, north of
Vancouver, on the mainland of BC. Takes 2 ferry rides to get here.
Failing that, I may take you up on your offer.
Thanks again.
Don R.
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Don R.
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:48 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:23:27 +0100, Don <phoney.email@yahoo.com>
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There are basically 1.5 ;o) issues when scanning slides.
The first is dynamic range.Nominally, a scanner needs to have about
12.5 bits to cover the dynamic range of slides. Unfortunately, that's
the theory and in practice things are somewhat different. Depending on
the slides themselves (e.g. underexposed slides or Kodachromes)
considerably more dynamic range may be needed. My personal empirical
tests suggest about 18-bits to cover the full range, but take that
with a grain of salt. Your mileage may vary, as they say.
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Afraid you're a bit over my head, technically.
The slides I have are of mid-1950 to about 1965 vintage. Some
developed by Kodak, some by Technicolor, etc.. I'm sure some are
either over-exposed and under-exposed. I'm still a very amateurish
photographer now that I'm in the digital mode.
Thanks.
Don R.
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DenverDad
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:25 am Post subject:
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Don R. wrote:
| Quote: | The slides I have are of mid-1950 to about 1965 vintage. Some
developed by Kodak, some by Technicolor, etc.. I'm sure some are
either over-exposed and under-exposed. I'm still a very amateurish
photographer now that I'm in the digital mode.
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How many slides do you have to scan? Also, what is the final goal for
the scans? By that I mean are you going to make prints or just view
them on the computer? And if you are going to make prints, what
maximum print size do you anticipate? The reason I ask is that the
quality of the scanner required and the amount of effort involved can
vary greatly depending on what your final output goals are.
Jeff |
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Don
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject:
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:48:25 GMT, Don R. <odatdon@REMOVETHIStelus.net>
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| Quote: | There are basically 1.5 ;o) issues when scanning slides.
The first is dynamic range.Nominally, a scanner needs to have about
12.5 bits to cover the dynamic range of slides. Unfortunately, that's
the theory and in practice things are somewhat different. Depending on
the slides themselves (e.g. underexposed slides or Kodachromes)
considerably more dynamic range may be needed. My personal empirical
tests suggest about 18-bits to cover the full range, but take that
with a grain of salt. Your mileage may vary, as they say.
Afraid you're a bit over my head, technically.
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The above basically means that the scanner is not always able to scan
everything on the film in the following sense:
The difference between the brightest and darkest point in a slide
("dynamic range") is bigger than what the scanner can capture.
Therefore, the scanner has to compromise and "clip" something.
Usually, the scanner exposure is based on the brightest points which
means that the darkest points come up short and are "clipped" i.e. not
captured properly.
In practical terms this means that when you look at the scanned image
the shadows are "noisy" (random pixels of various colors). This can be
"fixed" in a number of different ways and may not be a problem in the
big scheme of things if all you want, for example, is to put them up
on the web. But some people are picky, like yours truly. ;o)
| Quote: | The slides I have are of mid-1950 to about 1965 vintage. Some
developed by Kodak, some by Technicolor, etc.. I'm sure some are
either over-exposed and under-exposed. I'm still a very amateurish
photographer now that I'm in the digital mode.
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In that case it's likely that some fading has occurred which causes a
color shift so you may need to do some work afterwards to pep them up
a little.
It's also important to decide what one wants to do with the image
after it's scanned. Some people only want to print them or view them
on the screen. In either of those two cases virtually any scanner
today will produce very good results.
Others scan to "archive" meaning they want to squeeze every last drop
out of film before it deteriorates any further. This results in huge
files (100 MB per picture and more!). In such a case all the things I
wrote above play an important part and come into consideration.
Don. |
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Don
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Neil Gould
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:29 pm Post subject:
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Recently, Don R. <odatdon@REMOVETHIStelus.net> posted:
| Quote: | On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:08:11 GMT, "Neil Gould"
neil@myplaceofwork.com> wrote:
How many do you need? ;-)
At least Nikon, Minolta, Canon, and Microtek have models that will do
decently with color slides.
I only need one. ;-)
Could you be specific as to the models? And, maybe the price range?
Better would be to visit a photo store site, e.g. B&H |
(http://www.bhphotovideo.com/), and look at the available options. Any of
the named manufacturers have at least two models capable of scanning 35 mm
films, and the rest depends on your intended use of the scans.
Neil |
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Don R.
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:57 am Post subject:
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On 5 Nov 2005 21:44:37 -0800, "DenverDad" <the_applegates@comcast.net>
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| Quote: | Don R. wrote:
The slides I have are of mid-1950 to about 1965 vintage. Some
developed by Kodak, some by Technicolor, etc.. I'm sure some are
either over-exposed and under-exposed. I'm still a very amateurish
photographer now that I'm in the digital mode.
How many slides do you have to scan? Also, what is the final goal for
the scans? By that I mean are you going to make prints or just view
them on the computer? And if you are going to make prints, what
maximum print size do you anticipate? The reason I ask is that the
quality of the scanner required and the amount of effort involved can
vary greatly depending on what your final output goals are.
Jeff
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Possibly there about 500 slides. I suspect the majority would simply
be for viewing on a computer, stored on a CD or DVD. A few could end
up being printed. I don't think I'm looking for perfection; just a way
to get them off the slides onto a later, more permanent storage
format, such as CD or DVD.
Not planning on spending a bundle on them.
Thanks.
Don R.
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