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Synapse Syndrome
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:56 am    Post subject: Media - DVD-R and DVD+R Reply with quote
Probable a common question, but I couldn't find any answers on the web,
but..

is there any practical differences in using either of the two types of
media? Is it possible that one is more reliable than the other?

ss.
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smh
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Media - DVD-R and DVD+R Reply with quote
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(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

Synapse Syndrome wrote:
Quote:

Probable a common question, but I couldn't find any answers on the web,
but..

is there any practical differences in using either of the two types of
media? Is it possible that one is more reliable than the other?

Technically "+" is supposed to be superior:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113

Also "R" media can turn into "DVD-ROM" with bitsetting.

For laughs:

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Mike Richter (Friggin Shit) splattered (10/21/04):
Quote:

Harry Ohrn wrote:

In addition to what Cari posted I'll add that -R and -R/W
(pronounced "dash" R, "dash"R/W) differ somewhat from +R
and +R/W (pronounced like it looks "plus" R etc). Both are
like their counterparts in CDs but the +R and +R/W format
is newer and is an enhanced format.

-R and -R/W (pronounced "dash" R, "dash"R/W) differ somewhat
from +R and +R/W (pronounced like it looks "plus" R etc).
Both are like their counterparts in CDs but the +R and +R/W
format is newer and is an enhanced format.


In fact, they're concurrent;

Sure, Mikey:

[4.3] What about recordable DVD: DVD-R, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW, DVD+RW,
and DVD+R?
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#4.3

DVD-R was first available in fall 1997.
DVD+R was released in mid 2002.

DVD-RW came out in Japan in December 1999
DVD+RW became available in fall 2001.

They sure are concurrent, Fucking Asshole!

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Mikey, you are the Slimiest Friggin SOB!
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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
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(Mike Richter, any Material Connection w/ Roxio?)

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Synapse Syndrome
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Media - DVD-R and DVD+R Reply with quote
"smh" <smhong@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Synapse Syndrome wrote:

Probable a common question, but I couldn't find any answers on the web,
but..

is there any practical differences in using either of the two types of
media? Is it possible that one is more reliable than the other?

Technically "+" is supposed to be superior:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113


I've been buying -R media so far, as somebody told me about the
compatibility issues with older DVD players before, but some of the messages
at the bottom of that page dispute that. I might use +R for data and -R for
DVD movies from now.

Any thoughts?

Quote:

Also "R" media can turn into "DVD-ROM" with bitsetting.


Do you mean +R? I'm Googling for more info on bitsetting, interesting.
Maybe I'll just +R exclusively if this works for me.

Cheers

ss.
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CapCity
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Media - DVD-R and DVD+R Reply with quote
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"smh" <smhong@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Synapse Syndrome wrote:

<snip>

Quote:
I've been buying -R media so far, as somebody told me about the
compatibility issues with older DVD players before, but some of the
messages at the bottom of that page dispute that. I might use +R for data
and -R for DVD movies from now.

Any thoughts?


Also "R" media can turn into "DVD-ROM" with bitsetting.


Do you mean +R? I'm Googling for more info on bitsetting, interesting.
Maybe I'll just +R exclusively if this works for me.


Stick with what works. First time I burned a movie I used a +R and my player
played it, so I continue to use it for movies. My XBox will only accept -R
so I stick with those for that.



Quote:
Cheers

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smh
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:25 am    Post subject: Whatever happened to "quirky", "anomalous" or "trickier"? Reply with quote
Synapse Syndrome wrote:
Quote:
"smh" wrote:
Synapse Syndrome wrote:

Probable a common question, but I couldn't find any answers on the web,
but..

is there any practical differences in using either of the two types of
media? Is it possible that one is more reliable than the other?

Technically "+" is supposed to be superior:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/113

I've been buying -R media so far, as somebody told me about the
compatibility issues with older DVD players before, but some of the messages
at the bottom of that page dispute that. I might use +R for data and -R for
DVD movies from now.

As CapCity said: "Stick with what works."

Quote:
Also "R" media can turn into "DVD-ROM" with bitsetting.

Do you mean +R?

Sorry, yes.

Quote:
I'm Googling for more info on bitsetting, interesting.
Maybe I'll just +R exclusively if this works for me.

Increased compatibility: DVD bitsetting - Explanation
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150

cRoxio Easy CD/DVD Cremator has problems - bugs - with "+" media. This
is the cRoxio Shit Mike Richter's pre-emptive excuse to weasel out the
bugs.

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Whatever happened to "quirky", "anomalous" or "trickier"?
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Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin Shit) splattered (8/22/05):
Quote:

For DVD-ROM, the minus formats are a little better; there's a flag to be
set on the plus media to provide readability across all drives.

I've found that there is a slight advantage in DVD-Video to -R in the
U.S. and to +R in Europe; I've too few data to judge in the rest of the
world

(Any data in the Universe?)

Mikey, whatever happened to "quirky", "anomalous" or "trickier"?

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Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin SOB) splattered (5/1/05):
Quote:

Briefly, you may regard +R and -R as equivalent. At this point,
dual-layer is available on on +R; -R is more likely to be compatible
(especially for DVD-ROM, but also for DVD-Video) with different readers
in the U.S.

(My experience is that +R is somewhat more likely to be
compatible with European drives, but that may be an effect of the
historic role of Philips there.)

Impressed with the tidbit about the "European" stuff.

But whatever happened to "quirky", "anomalous" or "trickier"?

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Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin SOB) barfed (2/17/05):
Quote:

Which one should I buy when my drive can read and write both?
Compatibility, durability, speed in writing, which one is better
for my drive?

in my experience (which is limited),
+R is more likely to work in Europe.

Impressed with the tidbit about the "European" stuff.

But whatever happened to "quirky", "anomalous" or "trickier"?

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Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin SOB) barfed (2/12/05):
Quote:

Which one should I buy when my drive can read and write both?
Compatibility, durability, speed in writing, which one is
better for my drive?

+ is slightly more quirky

Is it now "quirky"?
Whatever happened to "anomalous" or "trickier", Slimeball?

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Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin SOB) screeched (12/30/04):
Quote:

DVD-ROM on + media can be anomalous

Is it now "anomalous"?
Whatever happened to "trickier"?

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Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin SOB) splattered (10/21/04):
Quote:

DVD-ROM is a bit trickier on the + media.

Sounds like you have extensive experience in DVD burning.

What do you mean by "trickier"?

Did burning to the + media require you to use a needle,
a magnifying glass and a cigarette lighter?
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Mikey, you are the Slimiest Friggin SOB!
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Dave Cohen
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Media - DVD-R and DVD+R Reply with quote
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"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
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"smh" <smhong@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Synapse Syndrome wrote:

snip

I've been buying -R media so far, as somebody told me about the
compatibility issues with older DVD players before, but some of the
messages at the bottom of that page dispute that. I might use +R for
data and -R for DVD movies from now.

Any thoughts?


Also "R" media can turn into "DVD-ROM" with bitsetting.


Do you mean +R? I'm Googling for more info on bitsetting, interesting.
Maybe I'll just +R exclusively if this works for me.


Stick with what works. First time I burned a movie I used a +R and my
player played it, so I continue to use it for movies. My XBox will only
accept -R so I stick with those for that.



Cheers

ss.

I agree. My home dvd player takes either. It's been said that one type is

cheaper then the other, I forget which is which, but I don't see any price
difference in stores, so I get whatever is on sale.
Dave Cohen
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