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NBK
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:35 am Post subject:
NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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HI
What exactly is booktype?
TIA
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smh
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject:
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NBK wrote:
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What exactly is booktype?
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Increased compatibility: DVD bitsetting - Explanation
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150
During the production of a DVD-R disc the lead-in is pre-embossed
(pre-written). This overwrites parts of the DVD that contains
information about the disc. E.g. the CSS key (part of the copy
protection) is in this part on commercial movie discs (This is why you
can’t make a 1:1 copy of a DVD). But in this space there is also room
reserved for the so called ‘booktype’ field.
This booktype field identifies the disc as either a DVD-ROM, DVD+R(W) or
a DVD-R(W) disc and is for a big part responsible for the compatibility.
Because this setting is overwritten during the DVD-R production process
it can’t be modified afterwards, the laser of your DVD recorder simply
can’t write to that part of the disc.
During the production of DVD+R discs the space is untouched. Still CSS
keys can’t be written to DVD+R discs because every DVD recorder and DVD
player has a limit in its firmware to write or read to this space.
However, there is no limit for writing the booktype field. Therefor a
DVD+R(W) recorder will be able to modify this field by sending a command
to the DVD recorder and fool the DVD player.
When the booktype field (bitsetting) is changed to DVD-ROM then DVD
players are fooled and will think the user has put in a DVD-ROM disc
instead of a DVD+R disc and will read it accordingly.
This results in an increased chance that the player is able to read the
disc and that’s why the ability to change the booktype field
(bitsetting) is essential to a lot of users. Certainly owners of a DVD
player that requires this field to be set to DVD-ROM, in order to work
properly, will prefer a DVD recorder that supports setting the booktype
field. |
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Baxter Tocher
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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NBK wrote:
| Quote: | What exactly is booktype?
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Worth doing a search here:
http://www.videohelp.com/
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NBK
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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smh wrote:
| Quote: | . --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
http://tinyurl.com/6eldj
(No Mikey S-lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL)
( )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )
NBK wrote:
What exactly is booktype?
Increased compatibility: DVD bitsetting - Explanation
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150
During the production of a DVD-R disc the lead-in is pre-embossed
(pre-written). This overwrites parts of the DVD that contains
information about the disc. E.g. the CSS key (part of the copy
protection) is in this part on commercial movie discs (This is why you
can’t make a 1:1 copy of a DVD). But in this space there is also room
reserved for the so called ‘booktype’ field.
This booktype field identifies the disc as either a DVD-ROM, DVD+R(W) or
a DVD-R(W) disc and is for a big part responsible for the compatibility.
Because this setting is overwritten during the DVD-R production process
it can’t be modified afterwards, the laser of your DVD recorder simply
can’t write to that part of the disc.
During the production of DVD+R discs the space is untouched. Still CSS
keys can’t be written to DVD+R discs because every DVD recorder and DVD
player has a limit in its firmware to write or read to this space.
However, there is no limit for writing the booktype field. Therefor a
DVD+R(W) recorder will be able to modify this field by sending a command
to the DVD recorder and fool the DVD player.
When the booktype field (bitsetting) is changed to DVD-ROM then DVD
players are fooled and will think the user has put in a DVD-ROM disc
instead of a DVD+R disc and will read it accordingly.
This results in an increased chance that the player is able to read the
disc and that’s why the ability to change the booktype field
(bitsetting) is essential to a lot of users. Certainly owners of a DVD
player that requires this field to be set to DVD-ROM, in order to work
properly, will prefer a DVD recorder that supports setting the booktype
field.
So i am stuck without being able to set booktype. I wish i had thought |
about booktype when i bought the NEC ND-3540A.
TIA
NBK |
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GlassVial
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Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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| Quote: | So i am stuck without being able to set booktype. I wish i had thought
about booktype when i bought the NEC ND-3540A.
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Huh? Don't give up so easily:
http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/3540/
-GV |
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Larc
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:56 am Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:35:44 GMT, GlassVial
<glassvial@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote:
| >So i am stuck without being able to set booktype. I wish i had thought
| >about booktype when i bought the NEC ND-3540A.
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| Huh? Don't give up so easily:
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| http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/3540/
I tried that altered firmware and the result was higher error rates on
DVDs. The 3540A can already be set to CD-ROM. It's a mystery why NEC
hasn't enabled the DVD-ROM booktype unless they haven't been able to
do it without causing more errors either.
Larc
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NBK
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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Baxter Tocher wrote:
| Quote: | NBK wrote:
What exactly is booktype?
Worth doing a search here:
http://www.videohelp.com/
Do u think NEC will add booktype control via a firmware? I am wondering |
how this omission will affect DVD+R DL compatibility with DVD players?
Any thoughts?
TIA
NBK |
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smh
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:56 am Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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NBK wrote:
| Quote: | smh wrote:
--------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
http://tinyurl.com/6eldj
(No Mikey S-lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL)
( )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )
NBK wrote:
What exactly is booktype?
Increased compatibility: DVD bitsetting - Explanation
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150
During the production of a DVD-R disc the lead-in is pre-embossed
(pre-written). This overwrites parts of the DVD that contains
information about the disc. E.g. the CSS key (part of the copy
protection) is in this part on commercial movie discs (This is why you
can’t make a 1:1 copy of a DVD). But in this space there is also room
reserved for the so called ‘booktype’ field.
This booktype field identifies the disc as either a DVD-ROM, DVD+R(W) or
a DVD-R(W) disc and is for a big part responsible for the compatibility.
Because this setting is overwritten during the DVD-R production process
it can’t be modified afterwards, the laser of your DVD recorder simply
can’t write to that part of the disc.
During the production of DVD+R discs the space is untouched. Still CSS
keys can’t be written to DVD+R discs because every DVD recorder and DVD
player has a limit in its firmware to write or read to this space.
However, there is no limit for writing the booktype field. Therefor a
DVD+R(W) recorder will be able to modify this field by sending a command
to the DVD recorder and fool the DVD player.
When the booktype field (bitsetting) is changed to DVD-ROM then DVD
players are fooled and will think the user has put in a DVD-ROM disc
instead of a DVD+R disc and will read it accordingly.
This results in an increased chance that the player is able to read the
disc and that’s why the ability to change the booktype field
(bitsetting) is essential to a lot of users. Certainly owners of a DVD
player that requires this field to be set to DVD-ROM, in order to work
properly, will prefer a DVD recorder that supports setting the booktype
field.
So i am stuck without being able to set booktype. I wish i had thought
about booktype when i bought the NEC ND-3540A.
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There are a couple of comments on bitsetting here (also see GlassVial
and Larc posts):
http://tinyurl.com/bkro4
NEC 3540 firmware with full bitsetting support
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=136589 |
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smh
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:57 am Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
http://tinyurl.com/6eldj
(No Mikey S-lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL)
( )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )
Larc wrote:
| Quote: | GlassVial wrote:
NBK wrote:
| >So i am stuck without being able to set booktype. I wish i had thought
| >about booktype when i bought the NEC ND-3540A.
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| Huh? Don't give up so easily:
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| http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/3540/
I tried that altered firmware and the result was higher error rates on
DVDs.
The 3540A can already be set to CD-ROM. It's a mystery why NEC
hasn't enabled the DVD-ROM booktype unless they haven't been able to
do it without causing more errors either.
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According to this the patch supposedly modify only the bitsetting
routines. In that case don't see how that affects burn strategy(?):
NEC 3530 firmware with full bitsetting support
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=136842
Liggy (13-05-2005):
It was not really difficult. I know where the booktype settings are
stored in the drive. It's easy to locate the code that accesses these
settings. For all firmwares with NEC style bitsetting commands, there
are exactly two routines that deal with these values.
For bitsetting patches I only have to take the routine from a (somewhat)
compatible drive, add it to the firmware I want to modify, change some
offsets that are different between firmwares, adjust some memory
locations, fix the checksum and that's it. |
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NBK
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:11 am Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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smh wrote:
| Quote: | NBK wrote:
smh wrote:
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Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
http://tinyurl.com/6eldj
(No Mikey S-lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL)
( )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )
NBK wrote:
What exactly is booktype?
Increased compatibility: DVD bitsetting - Explanation
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/150
During the production of a DVD-R disc the lead-in is pre-embossed
(pre-written). This overwrites parts of the DVD that contains
information about the disc. E.g. the CSS key (part of the copy
protection) is in this part on commercial movie discs (This is why you
can’t make a 1:1 copy of a DVD). But in this space there is also room
reserved for the so called ‘booktype’ field.
This booktype field identifies the disc as either a DVD-ROM, DVD+R(W) or
a DVD-R(W) disc and is for a big part responsible for the compatibility.
Because this setting is overwritten during the DVD-R production process
it can’t be modified afterwards, the laser of your DVD recorder simply
can’t write to that part of the disc.
During the production of DVD+R discs the space is untouched. Still CSS
keys can’t be written to DVD+R discs because every DVD recorder and DVD
player has a limit in its firmware to write or read to this space.
However, there is no limit for writing the booktype field. Therefor a
DVD+R(W) recorder will be able to modify this field by sending a command
to the DVD recorder and fool the DVD player.
When the booktype field (bitsetting) is changed to DVD-ROM then DVD
players are fooled and will think the user has put in a DVD-ROM disc
instead of a DVD+R disc and will read it accordingly.
This results in an increased chance that the player is able to read the
disc and that’s why the ability to change the booktype field
(bitsetting) is essential to a lot of users. Certainly owners of a DVD
player that requires this field to be set to DVD-ROM, in order to work
properly, will prefer a DVD recorder that supports setting the booktype
field.
So i am stuck without being able to set booktype. I wish i had thought
about booktype when i bought the NEC ND-3540A.
There are a couple of comments on bitsetting here (also see GlassVial
and Larc posts):
http://tinyurl.com/bkro4
NEC 3540 firmware with full bitsetting support
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=136589
I will wait on official firmware from NEC before i update...Hopefully |
they will add booktype.
Thanks
NBK |
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NBK
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:47 am Post subject:
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NBK wrote:
| Quote: | HI
What exactly is booktype?
TIA
NBK
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NEC ND-3540A'a booktype is set to DVD-ROM and cannot be changed
according to Nero CD-DVD Speed. |
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smh
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------
NBK wrote:
| Quote: |
What exactly is booktype?
NEC ND-3540A'a booktype is set to DVD-ROM and cannot be changed
according to Nero CD-DVD Speed.
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Wonder then why all the fuss about? Perhaps CD-DVD Speed giving out
false info?
Anyhow there are 2766 players that are "+-R" compatible. I wouldn't be
that concerned with the bitsetting issue unless you have one now.
http://tinyurl.com/8g8mw
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Baxter Tocher
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Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:09 pm Post subject:
Re: NEC ND-3540A and booktype????? |
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NBK wrote:
| Quote: | What exactly is booktype?
Worth doing a search here:
http://www.videohelp.com/
Do u think NEC will add booktype control via a firmware? I am wondering
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There's a list of suggestions and feedback to NEC on this forum:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=147155
A couple of folk have already mentioned there that they'd like this
facility.
--
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XP
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Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:23 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:08:30 GMT, NBK <no@spam.net> wrote:
| Quote: | So i am stuck without being able to set booktype. I wish i had thought
about booktype when i bought the NEC ND-3540A.
TIA
NBK
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No Problem you now have Bit Setting.
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12436
Updated Firmware.. |
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