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Scott
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:27 am Post subject:
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Okay, got a system with an Adaptec U320 controller. The system came with 1
drive (ID 0) connected to the first connector (nearest the adapter), 1 extra
connector, and a terminator. I bought an identical drive and connected it
to the extra connector (ID 1). In the process I bent one of the pins in the
connector that was connected to the original drive. I got it straightened
and connected everything and it all seemed to work fine for a couple weeks.
It came time to make some other changes that required me to disconnect the
drives, move them, reconnect them. Now the second connector won't work at
all. I mean, the scsi scan at bootup hangs if anything is connected to that
second connector. (Keep in mind that is NOT the one with the bent pin).
Both drives function just fine if they are connected to the damaged
connector, and neither will function if connected to "good" connector. It
doesn't matter if only 1 or both are connected.
I've got a new cable on the way, of course. But what I'm wondering is, is
it possible or probable that the damaged connector is somehow causing the
other to not work? Why all of a sudden, then? Or should I be looking
elsewhere. |
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Jeremy Boden
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject:
Re: help a dumb scsi newb |
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In message <D6Lue.83610$_o.53676@attbi_s71>, Scott
<nospam@mailinator.com> writes
| Quote: | Okay, got a system with an Adaptec U320 controller. The system came with 1
drive (ID 0) connected to the first connector (nearest the adapter), 1 extra
connector, and a terminator. I bought an identical drive and connected it
to the extra connector (ID 1). In the process I bent one of the pins in the
connector that was connected to the original drive. I got it straightened
and connected everything and it all seemed to work fine for a couple weeks.
It came time to make some other changes that required me to disconnect the
drives, move them, reconnect them. Now the second connector won't work at
all. I mean, the scsi scan at bootup hangs if anything is connected to that
second connector. (Keep in mind that is NOT the one with the bent pin).
Both drives function just fine if they are connected to the damaged
connector, and neither will function if connected to "good" connector. It
doesn't matter if only 1 or both are connected.
I've got a new cable on the way, of course. But what I'm wondering is, is
it possible or probable that the damaged connector is somehow causing the
other to not work? Why all of a sudden, then? Or should I be looking
elsewhere.
Where did you put the terminator? |
If you have two disks you will need three (or more) connectors.
This isn't IDE you know (connectors don't have ID numbers!!!).
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Jeremy Boden |
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Scott
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject:
Re: help a dumb scsi newb |
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"Jeremy Boden" <jeremy@jboden.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In message <D6Lue.83610$_o.53676@attbi_s71>, Scott <nospam@mailinator.com
writes
Okay, got a system with an Adaptec U320 controller. The system came with
1
drive (ID 0) connected to the first connector (nearest the adapter), 1
extra
connector, and a terminator. I bought an identical drive and connected it
to the extra connector (ID 1). In the process I bent one of the pins in
the
connector that was connected to the original drive. I got it straightened
and connected everything and it all seemed to work fine for a couple
weeks.
It came time to make some other changes that required me to disconnect the
drives, move them, reconnect them. Now the second connector won't work at
all. I mean, the scsi scan at bootup hangs if anything is connected to
that
second connector. (Keep in mind that is NOT the one with the bent pin).
Both drives function just fine if they are connected to the damaged
connector, and neither will function if connected to "good" connector. It
doesn't matter if only 1 or both are connected.
I've got a new cable on the way, of course. But what I'm wondering is, is
it possible or probable that the damaged connector is somehow causing the
other to not work? Why all of a sudden, then? Or should I be looking
elsewhere.
Where did you put the terminator?
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quote: The system came with 1 drive (ID 0) connected to the first connector
(nearest the adapter), 1 extra connector, and a terminator.
I thought that was clear, but let me try again. The cable has 4 connectors:
One connected to the Adaptec controller on the m/b, the next in line was
originally connected to the original hd, the next in line was originally
empty, and the last was connected to a terminator.
0..........1.....2..3
| Quote: | If you have two disks you will need three (or more) connectors.
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Yes, like I said, it was all working fine for a couple weeks.
| Quote: | This isn't IDE you know (connectors don't have ID numbers!!!).
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Yes, I referred to the first drive as ID 0 and implied the second was ID 1.
I thought that's what I was saying anyway ;-)
I bent a pin in #1. I had disconnected everything while installing the new
drive at #2, and bent the pin in #1 while reinserting it. I straightened
the pin and everything worked (original drive w/ ID 0 at connector 1, new
drive w/ ID 1 at connector 2). After diconnecting it all a couple weeks
later and reconnecting exactly the same, the SCSI scan hung at ID 1. Either
drive works at position 1, neither works at position 2; and it doesn't
matter if I connect only 1 or both dirves---if anything is connected to
position 2 then it hangs now. <shrug> |
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Folkert Rienstra
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject:
Re: help a dumb scsi newb |
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"Scott" <nospam@mailinator.com> wrote in message news:D6Lue.83610$_o.53676@attbi_s71
| Quote: | Okay, got a system with an Adaptec U320 controller. The system came with 1
drive (ID 0) connected to the first connector (nearest the adapter), 1 extra
connector, and a terminator. I bought an identical drive and connected it
to the extra connector (ID 1). In the process I bent one of the pins in the
connector that was connected to the original drive. I got it straightened
and connected everything and it all seemed to work fine for a couple weeks.
It came time to make some other changes that required me to disconnect the
drives, move them, reconnect them. Now the second connector won't work at
all. I mean, the scsi scan at bootup hangs if anything is connected to that
second connector. (Keep in mind that is NOT the one with the bent pin).
Both drives function just fine if they are connected to the damaged
connector, and neither will function if connected to "good" connector. It
doesn't matter if only 1 or both are connected.
I've got a new cable on the way, of course. But what I'm wondering is, is
it possible or probable that the damaged connector is somehow causing the
other to not work?
Why all of a sudden, then?
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How so, "why all of a sudden"? You broke one the first time you handled
them and now you have new trouble, once again when you handled them.
Some people would see a pattern here.
| Quote: | Or should I be looking elsewhere.
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Try not to break your new cable. |
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Scott
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject:
Re: help a dumb scsi newb |
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"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message
news:42bc1003$0$85451$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
| Quote: | "Scott" <nospam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:D6Lue.83610$_o.53676@attbi_s71
Okay, got a system with an Adaptec U320 controller. The system came with
1
drive (ID 0) connected to the first connector (nearest the adapter), 1
extra
connector, and a terminator. I bought an identical drive and connected
it
to the extra connector (ID 1). In the process I bent one of the pins in
the
connector that was connected to the original drive. I got it
straightened
and connected everything and it all seemed to work fine for a couple
weeks.
It came time to make some other changes that required me to disconnect
the
drives, move them, reconnect them. Now the second connector won't work
at
all. I mean, the scsi scan at bootup hangs if anything is connected to
that
second connector. (Keep in mind that is NOT the one with the bent pin).
Both drives function just fine if they are connected to the damaged
connector, and neither will function if connected to "good" connector.
It
doesn't matter if only 1 or both are connected.
I've got a new cable on the way, of course. But what I'm wondering is,
is
it possible or probable that the damaged connector is somehow causing the
other to not work?
Why all of a sudden, then?
How so, "why all of a sudden"? You broke one the first time you handled
them and now you have new trouble, once again when you handled them.
Some people would see a pattern here.
Or should I be looking elsewhere.
Try not to break your new cable.
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Look dipshit, if you don't have anything useful to say then shut the fuck
up. As if you've never accidentally misaligned a pin or screw or
whatever... Seriously, do you have anything to offer other than smartass
bs? I know, every group has one--the guy who knows it all but somehow never
seems to deliver anything. Do you really think that because someone
accidentally bent a pin while inserting a connector once, that they should
never attempt to insert a connector ever again, since they've established a
pattern of damaging them. Take a step back and think of the crap you say. |
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Triffid
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject:
Re: help a dumb scsi newb |
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Scott wrote:
| Quote: | "Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message
news:42bc1003$0$85451$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
"Scott" <nospam@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:D6Lue.83610$_o.53676@attbi_s71
Okay, got a system with an Adaptec U320 controller. The system came with
1
drive (ID 0) connected to the first connector (nearest the adapter), 1
extra
connector, and a terminator. I bought an identical drive and connected
it
to the extra connector (ID 1). In the process I bent one of the pins in
the
connector that was connected to the original drive. I got it
straightened
and connected everything and it all seemed to work fine for a couple
weeks.
It came time to make some other changes that required me to disconnect
the
drives, move them, reconnect them. Now the second connector won't work
at
all. I mean, the scsi scan at bootup hangs if anything is connected to
that
second connector. (Keep in mind that is NOT the one with the bent pin).
Both drives function just fine if they are connected to the damaged
connector, and neither will function if connected to "good" connector.
It
doesn't matter if only 1 or both are connected.
I've got a new cable on the way, of course. But what I'm wondering is,
is
it possible or probable that the damaged connector is somehow causing the
other to not work?
Why all of a sudden, then?
How so, "why all of a sudden"? You broke one the first time you handled
them and now you have new trouble, once again when you handled them.
Some people would see a pattern here.
Or should I be looking elsewhere.
Try not to break your new cable.
Look dipshit, if you don't have anything useful to say then shut the fuck
up. As if you've never accidentally misaligned a pin or screw or
whatever... Seriously, do you have anything to offer other than smartass
bs? I know, every group has one--the guy who knows it all but somehow never
seems to deliver anything. Do you really think that because someone
accidentally bent a pin while inserting a connector once, that they should
never attempt to insert a connector ever again, since they've established a
pattern of damaging them. Take a step back and think of the crap you say.
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It helps to have a thicker skin around here - the locals can be a bit
unforgiving.
It's possible the conductor associated with the damaged pin was stressed
when you bent and straightened the pin, then broke next time you
disconnected and reconnected the drives, such that there is now no
connection beyond the first drive connector.
In any case the cable is known to be damaged, replacing it is the
logical next step. |
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Jeremy Boden
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject:
Re: help a dumb scsi newb |
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"Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote in message
news:42bc1003$0$85451$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
Look dipshit, if you don't have anything useful to say then shut the fuck
up. As if you've never accidentally misaligned a pin or screw or
whatever... Seriously, do you have anything to offer other than smartass
bs? I know, every group has one--the guy who knows it all but somehow never
seems to deliver anything. Do you really think that because someone
accidentally bent a pin while inserting a connector once, that they should
never attempt to insert a connector ever again, since they've established a
pattern of damaging them. Take a step back and think of the crap you say.
This is a common reaction to Folkert's postings. |
However, he really is extremely knowledgeable about all things SCSI.
Provided he can see that you are following most of his (normally
reasonable suggestions), he will provide you with lot's of quality help.
Just ignore the insults - I think he must have been dropped on his head
when he was a baby or something.
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Jeremy Boden |
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