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Franklin
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: Charge rate of USB compared to Nokia chargers Reply with quote

How does the time to charge a Nokia from a PC's USB port compare to
the time taken by an original Nokia charger (eg ACP6 standard charger
or ACP8 fast charger)?

I can measure 4.9V from the USB charger plug and 6.0V from the ACP8
plug but I don't have any info on max current.

Thanks.


PS: This USB charger cable works with Nokia DCT3 phones (like 3210,
3310, 3410, 6210, 7110, 8210).
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John Laird
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Charge rate of USB compared to Nokia chargers Reply with quote

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:41:02 GMT, Franklin <no_thanks@mail.com> wrote:

Quote:
How does the time to charge a Nokia from a PC's USB port compare to
the time taken by an original Nokia charger (eg ACP6 standard charger
or ACP8 fast charger)?

I can measure 4.9V from the USB charger plug and 6.0V from the ACP8
plug but I don't have any info on max current.

USB 1.1 and 2.0 both specify a maximum current of 0.5A on each port. That
would appear to be similar to the output of my SE fast charger, nearly 50%
more than my Nokia standard brick, and as I can't find any of the Nokia fast
chargers that should live here, not sure on that, but would guess "similar".

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R. Mark Clayton
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Charge rate of USB compared to Nokia chargers Reply with quote

"John Laird" <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk> wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:41:02 GMT, Franklin <no_thanks@mail.com> wrote:

How does the time to charge a Nokia from a PC's USB port compare to
the time taken by an original Nokia charger (eg ACP6 standard charger
or ACP8 fast charger)?

I can measure 4.9V from the USB charger plug and 6.0V from the ACP8
plug but I don't have any info on max current.

USB 1.1 and 2.0 both specify a maximum current of 0.5A on each port. That
would appear to be similar to the output of my SE fast charger, nearly 50%
more than my Nokia standard brick, and as I can't find any of the Nokia
fast
chargers that should live here, not sure on that, but would guess
"similar".

I read a great big long article about this, and the answer is not as simple
as this.

When a power drawing device is first plugged in it is only supposed to draw
0.1A (IIRC), but may negotiate up to 0.5A or (1A?) on a direct port; it is
also supposed to drop back, if say external power is removed from a hub.

So your charging cable may do one of three things: -

1. Trickle charge at <=0.1A.
2. Negotiate properly.
3. Cheat and draw as much as it can.

My [dumb, but legit] USB phone charge cable does option 1, so just keeps the
phone on and hardly charges it at all.

Many cheapo devices (like lights) draw far more current than they are
supposed to. This wll probably not hurt too much on a desktop, but may
cause problems in a laptop.

Quote:

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Better to be thought stupid than to speak and confirm it.

Mail john rather than nospam...
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