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Tungsten
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:02 pm    Post subject: Bad drive or bad setup? Reply with quote

I have a Tekram DC-390-U2W card connected to a WD Vantage 18.3GB(LVD)
by way of a 2-connector 68-pin cable. I recently bought a Seagate
ST118202LC SCA drive and adapter to add to this cable. Whenever I give
power to the new drive, alone or on the same chain as the WD, the drive
starts making odd spin noises, reminiscient of an Atari level-up sound
effect--starting with a low pitch that crescendoes upward for a little
less than two seconds. It does this little kazoo impersonation about
10 times before just giving up and going silent until the next reboot.

I would blame the drive immediately, but I have no end terminator on
this system. I'm not sure if I should have, but I've been running my
WD Vantage sans termination for about 5 years now and it's worked fine.
Any thoughts?
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Folkert Rienstra
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:37 am    Post subject: Re: Bad drive or bad setup? Reply with quote

"Tungsten" <ZeneTungsten@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1102761896.881003.250880@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Quote:
I have a Tekram DC-390-U2W card connected to a WD Vantage 18.3GB(LVD)
by way of a 2-connector 68-pin cable. I recently bought a Seagate
ST118202LC SCA drive and adapter to add to this cable.

Whenever I give power to the new drive, alone or on the same chain as
the WD, the drive starts making odd spin noises, reminiscient of an Atari
level-up sound effect--starting with a low pitch that crescendoes upward
for a little less than two seconds. It does this little kazoo impersonation
about 10 times before just giving up and going silent until the next reboot.

I would blame the drive immediately, but I have no end terminator on
this system.

I'm not sure if I should have,

Ofcourse you do.

Quote:
but I've been running my WD Vantage sans termination for about 5 years
now and it's worked fine.

There is an odd chance that you have this specific terminated SCA adapter and
that you spin-up the drive by bios command that this may be blamed by that
specific terminated LVD SCA adapter. I had that happen once with an IBM
DDYS where any commands given to the drive would have it spin up and down.
(That drive was just fine with another adapter).

If not, and given that 10-retry count and stop, probably not, then very likely
the drive is dead. Check the power supply levels on the drive itself to make
sure power is adequate on the drive to rule out the adapter.


> Any thoughts?
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Desty
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Bad drive or bad setup? Reply with quote

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
Quote:
"Tungsten" <ZeneTungsten@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1102761896.881003.250880@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com

I have a Tekram DC-390-U2W card connected to a WD Vantage 18.3GB(LVD)
by way of a 2-connector 68-pin cable. I recently bought a Seagate
ST118202LC SCA drive and adapter to add to this cable.


Whenever I give power to the new drive, alone or on the same chain as
the WD, the drive starts making odd spin noises, reminiscient of an Atari
level-up sound effect--starting with a low pitch that crescendoes upward
for a little less than two seconds. It does this little kazoo impersonation
about 10 times before just giving up and going silent until the next reboot.

I would blame the drive immediately, but I have no end terminator on
this system.


I'm not sure if I should have,


Ofcourse you do.


but I've been running my WD Vantage sans termination for about 5 years
now and it's worked fine.


There is an odd chance that you have this specific terminated SCA adapter and
that you spin-up the drive by bios command that this may be blamed by that
specific terminated LVD SCA adapter. I had that happen once with an IBM
DDYS where any commands given to the drive would have it spin up and down.
(That drive was just fine with another adapter).

If not, and given that 10-retry count and stop, probably not, then very likely
the drive is dead. Check the power supply levels on the drive itself to make
sure power is adequate on the drive to rule out the adapter.



Any thoughts?

Does it perform the same when powered up with no SCSI interface
connected using the same power supply as you're using now?

I had a case where a drive did this and it turned out to be that, adding
the last drive caused the PSU voltage to sag under the increased load of
the drive attempting to spin the platters up. The controller on the
drive saw increased current and low voltage while applying start voltage
to the spindle motor circuit, attempted to get it up to speed 10 times
then just shut itself down.
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Tungsten
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Bad drive or bad setup? Reply with quote

ahh this seems to be the case...what did you do to remedy the
situation? more powerful power supply?
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