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* * Chas
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Backup Laptop W/ SCSI Tape & SCSI PC Card Reply with quote

I have a new IBM X31 laptop with WinXP NTFS. I'm looking for backup
software recommendations.

I've been using Norton Ghost with a Seagate DDS3 external tape drive
connected via an Adaptec APA 1460A PCMCIA Card to back up my older
laptops.

I've tried the WinXP Backup program with this setup and it seems to work
fine but I want something like Norton Ghost to make disk images for
disaster recovery.

I've been using Ghost with a DOS Floppy boot disk on my FAT32 systems. I
can probably make NTFS backups with Ghost but they can't be restored
because DOS can't see the NTFS drive.

Any suggestions or do I have to pop for and external USB HDD?
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Michael Squires
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Backup Laptop W/ SCSI Tape & SCSI PC Card Reply with quote

In article <epSdna_z5_XOCQ3cRVn-2w@comcast.com>,
Quote:

I've been using Ghost with a DOS Floppy boot disk on my FAT32 systems. I
can probably make NTFS backups with Ghost but they can't be restored
because DOS can't see the NTFS drive.


I've been restoring NTFS partitions for years with Ghost using a Win98
boot floppy, has no problems seeing the NTFS partitions on my disks.

I have used Bart's Boot Disk (find with Google) for this purpose, since it
creates a RAMdisk and unpacks everything there. There is also a CD version
called "Bart's PE" on the same site which can run the version of Ghost that
can run under Windows - I haven't used that, but the people who do a lot of
installations around here prefer the CD version.

Mike Squires
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mikes at siralan.org 546 N Park Ridge Rd., Bloomington, IN 47408
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* * Chas
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Backup Laptop W/ SCSI Tape & SCSI PC Card Reply with quote

"Michael Squires" <mikes@cs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:cmql4t$nda$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu...
Quote:
In article <epSdna_z5_XOCQ3cRVn-2w@comcast.com>,

I've been using Ghost with a DOS Floppy boot disk on my FAT32 systems.
I
can probably make NTFS backups with Ghost but they can't be restored
because DOS can't see the NTFS drive.


I've been restoring NTFS partitions for years with Ghost using a Win98
boot floppy, has no problems seeing the NTFS partitions on my disks.

I have used Bart's Boot Disk (find with Google) for this purpose, since
it
creates a RAMdisk and unpacks everything there. There is also a CD
version
called "Bart's PE" on the same site which can run the version of Ghost
that
can run under Windows - I haven't used that, but the people who do a lot
of
installations around here prefer the CD version.

Mike Squires

Thanks for the info. The Win98 Installation Floppy also creates a RAM
disk.

I haven't tried it myself but I read a number of threads saying that Ghost
could make an image but not be able to do a restore to NTFS. What version
of Ghost are you using?
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: Backup Laptop W/ SCSI Tape & SCSI PC Card Reply with quote

In article <Z9SdnTKB58htaQ3cRVn-rQ@comcast.com>,
* * Chas <dnafutz@aol.spam.com> wrote:
Quote:

I haven't tried it myself but I read a number of threads saying that Ghost
could make an image but not be able to do a restore to NTFS. What version
of Ghost are you using?

v6 through 7.5; I know someone who's using a later version with NTFS.

These are the Symantec "enterprise" versions which can use a network
drive; I haven't used the version that comes with the Norton Systemworks
(any version) much, except to view the contents of Ghost images.

Mike Squires
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Mike Squires (mikes at cs.indiana.edu) 317 233 9456 (w) 812 333 6564 (h)
mikes at siralan.org 546 N Park Ridge Rd., Bloomington, IN 47408
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Triffid
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: Backup Laptop W/ SCSI Tape & SCSI PC Card Reply with quote

* * Chas wrote:
Quote:
I have a new IBM X31 laptop with WinXP NTFS. I'm looking for backup
software recommendations.

I've been using Norton Ghost with a Seagate DDS3 external tape drive
connected via an Adaptec APA 1460A PCMCIA Card to back up my older
laptops.

I've tried the WinXP Backup program with this setup and it seems to work
fine but I want something like Norton Ghost to make disk images for
disaster recovery.

I've been using Ghost with a DOS Floppy boot disk on my FAT32 systems. I
can probably make NTFS backups with Ghost but they can't be restored
because DOS can't see the NTFS drive.

Any suggestions or do I have to pop for and external USB HDD?

I suggest Ghost 9, or Drive Image 7 if you can find it.

Where I work there have been Ghost vs. Drive Image flame wars for years.
I always preferred the Drive Image user interface, and found the two
products provided similar functionality, but leapfrogged each other with
each new version released.

Drive Image 7 finally eliminated the last of the annoyances - the need
to boot DOS to back up a system partition (can now be scheduled and run
without shutting down Windows), and the requirement to create DOS boot
disks which were frequently hardware-specific (DI7 can boot from the
product CD and configure networking without user intervention - required
only for system partition restores or a non-bootable disk).

I guess Drive Image wins the flame wars - Symantec bought Powerquest,
and Ghost 9 is Drive Image 7 with incremental image backup functionality
added. The traditional Ghost user interface is no more...

Triffid
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* * Chas
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Backup Laptop W/ SCSI Tape & SCSI PC Card Reply with quote

"Michael Squires" <mikes@cs.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:cmrvom$6bn$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu...
Quote:
In article <Z9SdnTKB58htaQ3cRVn-rQ@comcast.com>,
* * Chas <dnafutz@aol.spam.com> wrote:

I haven't tried it myself but I read a number of threads saying that
Ghost
could make an image but not be able to do a restore to NTFS. What
version
of Ghost are you using?

v6 through 7.5; I know someone who's using a later version with NTFS.

These are the Symantec "enterprise" versions which can use a network
drive; I haven't used the version that comes with the Norton Systemworks
(any version) much, except to view the contents of Ghost images.

Mike Squires


Thanks,

I forgot about the differences between the Enterprise and Standard
versions of Ghost (besides about $50.00 USD). I bought Ghost 2000 and 2002
as stand alone programs. They were about $60+ each if I remember
correctly. I got NSW Pro with Ghost for about $15.00!

Also, I've been using Win98 Boot Disks with Ghost rather than a Win98
Installation Disk. I'm going to try out 2002 with a Boot Disk in a few
minutes to see if it works.
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